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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Sam 1 Déc 2012 - 14:28

inanc a écrit:
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les gars
a plusieurs reprise j'avais poser la question sans avoir de réponse
ca ne me dérange pas que vous exhiber les armes produite par votre pays d'origine
mais j'aurais aimer que vous utiliser votre très bonne connaissance des sources militaire turc pour trouver d'éventuel transaction militaire entre la Turquie et le Maroc
je rappel qu'on est sur un forum qui s'appelle FAR MAROC, donc le minimum vitale serait quand même de faire un lien entre l'industrie militaire turc et/ou l'armée turque et l'armée marocaine....

Je vais te sortir notre export vers le Maroc en 2012 Wink

Merci Chef !

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Sam 1 Déc 2012 - 14:30

Sur l'année 2012, on est à environ 2.8 millions de $

Notre souhait est plus de coopération évidemment mais Baybars a raison pour l'instant c'est limité (munitions + armes légères).

En réalité, je trouve qu'on a pas encore percé en Afrique.

Malgré tout, ça progresse pas mal Very Happy


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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Sam 1 Déc 2012 - 14:39

Ce qui me surprends, c'est qu'on vend plus d'arme à la Grèce et à la Somalie, qu'au Maroc ou l'Algérie..

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Sam 1 Déc 2012 - 14:46

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Inanç, tu n'as pas les chiffres de l'exportation en armement par chaque pays pour novembre?



(au dessus de 500k $)

Colonnes : novembre 2011 - novembre 2012 - Période Janvier-Novembre 2011 - Période Janvier-Novembre 2012

Unité : 1k $

PS : Faudra attendre pour le top 10 Wink




Merci...

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Sam 1 Déc 2012 - 14:49

Baybars a écrit:
Ce qui me surprends, c'est qu'on vend plus d'arme à la Grèce et à la Somalie, qu'au Maroc ou l'Algérie..


En novembre, les exportations en général ont augmenté de 47% vers la Grèce clown

Après, la Grèce c'est nos voisins et la Somalie, y a un intérêt du gouvernement pour vraiment les aider dans tous les domaines.

La défense et la coopération militaire repose sur une confiance de longue durée (partenariat stratégique) entre les parties et une convergence d'intérêts je pense.

On n'est pas suffisamment proche des Marocains et Algériens pour l'instant.

Un membre avait aussi dit (je sais plus qui, c'était un modo Very Happy ), que le Maroc préférait acheter chez le Big 5 du Conseil de Sécurité pour le poids international donc la fiabilité.

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Sam 1 Déc 2012 - 15:23

En recoupant beaucoup de sources, voilà au minimum ce que le chantier naval Yonca-Onuk a construit/va construire comme patrouilleur, bateau d'intervention/d'attaque/de sauvetage rapide sur la période 2004-2013 à des clients étrangers :

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Pakistan : (2 MRTP-16)

YONCA-ONUK A.O. M03.4 PAKISTAN DENIZ KUVVETLERI GÜMRÜKLER MUHAFAZA BOTU 16M P01 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M03.5 PAKISTAN DENIZ KUVVETLERI GÜMRÜKLER MUHAFAZA BOTU 16M P02 DNV

Géorgie/Georgia : (1 MRTP-33 + 1 MRTP-20)

YONCA-ONUK A.O. M37 GÜRCISTAN DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 33M P-24 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M59 GÜRCISTAN DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 20M P-108 DNV

EAU : (10 MRTP-16)

YONCA-ONUK A.O. M48 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV10 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M70 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV11 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M72 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV12 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M73 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV13 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M74 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV14 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M75 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV15 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M76 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV16 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M77 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV17 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M78 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV18 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M79 U.A.E DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M DV19 DNV

Malaisie : (4 MRTP-16)

YONCA-ONUK A.O. M113 MALEZYA DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M EJ-1 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M116 MALEZYA DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M EJ-2 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M117 MALEZYA DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M EJ-3 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M118 MALEZYA DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M EJ-4 DNV

Egypte : (3 MRTP-20 + 1 construit en Egypte)

YONCA-ONUK A.O. M114 MISIR DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 20M EL-1 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M125 MISIR DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 20M EL-2 DNV
YONCA-ONUK A.O. M126 MISIR DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 20M EL-3 DNV

Qatar : (3 MRTP-16 + 3 MRTP-34)

YONCA\ONUK M166 KATAR DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M 1-16M DNV
YONCA\ONUK M167 KATAR DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M 2-16M DNV
YONCA\ONUK M168 KATAR DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 34M-1 DNV
YONCA\ONUK M172 KATAR DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 16M 3 DNV
YONCA\ONUK M173 KATAR DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 34M-2 DNV
YONCA\ONUK M174 KATAR DENIZ KUVVETLERI SAHIL GÜVENLIK HÜCUM BOTU 34M-3 DNV

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Sam 1 Déc 2012 - 17:22

Je l'ai déjà dit, on a un objectif de renouer avec nos cousins et dégager l'influence Russe sur les Républiques Turques...

Interview avec le CEO de FNSS

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Perfect Progress
TBY talks to K. Nail Kurt, CEO of FNSS Defense Systems, on the development of Turkey’s defense industry, and the potential for global exports.

THE BUSINESS YEAR: What is the history and background of FNSS in the Turkish defense sector?
K. NAIL KURT FNSS was the first private defense company in Turkey, established back in 1988. It became operational in 1990. At the beginning we thought this was going to be an eight-year company with just a single contract, because the purpose of the company was to produce 1,700 armored combat vehicles (ACVs) for the Turkish Armed Forces under a single contract signed with the Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM). That program was extended for another two years and it went on until 1999. In the meantime, we had offset obligations that brought the question of whether we could export products. We started to investigate export possibilities, and there turned out to be real opportunities. The first 10 years of FNSS were taken up by licensed production. From 2000 on, it became more focused on the development of new products, more engineering, and, of course, it became more export oriented. After 2005, we won two indigenous development products with the Turkish Ministry of Defense: the amphibious assault bridge and the amphibious earthmover.

As Turkey’s first private sector defense company, what kind of unique challenges did you face?
During the very first days of the ACV contract, nobody knew how to conduct the acceptance process or how to handle the changes. The user was experienced in employing equipment simply given to it previously. For us and the user, though, it became a challenge to come up with a platform upon which we agreed what was required and how we were to meet all of the customer’s requirements and produce according to budgetary and time constraints. In our first contracts there were terms and conditions missing that today are very essential to conducting business. It was a learning process at first. The big challenge was to gain the confidence of the customer and manage the contract effectively. Since then, over the last 22 years, not only FNSS but also the rest of the Turkish defense sector has shown perfect progress, where we can manage very complex international defense programs.

How has that experience benefited your current operations?
It was a big experience—everybody learned a lot. In retrospect, what we did proved to be right, even considering the mistakes we made. It was a big experience for SSM and for FNSS. Most of the people in top management positions at SSM have been raised through the Turkish ACV program. After struggling for the first couple of years, it turned out to be one of the best examples within the Turkish defense industry.

How has the perception of the Turkish defense sector changed since FNSS has been in business?
To make a defense export contract successful, a few factors are required. These include a strong proven product, a good price, and sound relations between the two countries involved. In addition, trust in the company is also a must. At that time, however, FNSS was still a new, unproven company. Of course, the American brand names that we were working with provided comfort to our customers. They then saw the quality of our products and our level of service. Today, however, we hide the US flag in many cases. I would not compare FNSS with the rest of the industry. However, as a private entity, everybody knows and respects FNSS in the regions we operate, and that sort of reputation does not happen overnight. It is the result of several successful contracts, timely delivery, overall quality, and, moreover, sticking behind your product after the sale, which is an important thing in defense. You do not gain confidence through advertisements or by appearing in newspapers. This is not the way it works. This is a sector in which you deal with the end user directly, so you cannot lie or manipulate events. The product either works or it does not. In many ways the sector is different from others, but that is an important distinction: there are no layers in between the manufacturer and the end user.

How would you characterize the availability of technical education in Turkey?
There is definitely an engineering workforce available in terms of good schools and university education. However, in terms of experience there is a problem, and it started to be an issue after the Turkish defense industry started working on indigenous programs. Today, with TAI and Aselsan, we are talking about companies with 3,000 to 4,000 employees. Given the amount of work given by SSM to the industry, there is a huge amount of development work going on and we are about to reach a bottleneck in terms of finding people who have experience. This gives us another burden, as we have to hire young people and spend time on their development and education. It is a bit critical at the moment. Will all of those foundation companies continue this level of work? I think, as a minimum, in the next four or five years it will continue. To increase our engineering workforce we need to do something.

What does Turkey need to do to increase the availability of local content for defense manufacturers and to allow its defense industry to move up the value chain?
What I will say is consistent with SSM’s strategy. We have top-level companies, like FNSS and TAI, and we must not increase the number of these companies. We need to support the development of second-tier companies, and those should be coming from the bottom. That takes a lot of R&D, some basic studies, and the incorporation of all of the authorities, organizations, and universities. A good example for land systems is gearboxes. On the subject of gearbox design and production, we can do something here and we are doing something. In an ideal world, I want to be in a position where I can call my gearbox company and say I want such and such a design and I am sending you inputs and outputs—just design me something. And that is the biggest strength of Western companies. In Germany you have that support; in the US you do as well. Here we have to struggle with all of these subcomponents and try to educate vendors . An option is to do everything in house, but then I would need a facility 10 times the size and another 5,000 people to deal with. This is not the right way. We need experienced companies to support not just FNSS, but all of the top-level companies. That way they would not have big business risks. If my business goes down a little bit they could balance their load with other companies. For land systems, another example is that we need some basic capabilities with materials like armor steel. We need to invest in that area in Turkey. Again, basic industries like power packs, engines, and transmissions are needed. I know this cannot happen overnight, and I am not talking about conventional engines and power packs necessarily. Everybody produces those. I am talking maybe about fuel cells and electric drives, which are the future. We need to spend time on things that will make Turkey unique in certain areas. There is not much left to do with internal combustion engines.

What is your vision for FNSS over the next decade?
We want FNSS to be the biggest land systems company in Turkey. We want to be the local defense company for foreign and friendly countries. That means we are going to work very hard to get more business, aggressively, within Turkey. Also, we will continue to explore in order to spread our products throughout the world, mainly in the Middle East and Far East. However, Eastern Europe is also coming into our focus. The next target—once they are released from their Russian influence in terms of old military equipment—are the Turkic republics. Based on our research and analysis, our plan is to reach turnover levels of $400 million to $500 million a year. We want to reach that level in the next five years, and in the five years after that we intend to stay at that level while getting ready for the next jump. This is based on our current strategic plan, and we are about to revise our strategic plan in the coming years. We think this is achievable. For 15 years we have been on average a $100 million company. From 2005 to 2008 we dropped down to $25 million to $30 million a year, which put us into survival mode. We reached levels above $100 million for the last four years, and in 2012 we are jumping up to $180 million. Over these periods we have gone from being a company with 450 people, to 140 people, to nearly 800 people currently. So over the last four years there has been a huge jump, and we want to reinforce our current position for some time before making the next big jump, which has already been planned.

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Mer 5 Déc 2012 - 13:52

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High-level defense talks were launched yesterday between delegations from Turkey and the United States.The talks were led by Murad Bayar, chief of the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM), and U.S. Undersecretary of Commerce for International Commerce Francisco Sanchez.

The Ankara meeting was hosted and sponsored by the Turkish Union of Chambers and Commodities Exchanges (TOBB). Several defense companies from the two countries took part in the defense negotiations in the third visit of Sanchez to Turkey in his tenure since 2009. Turkey’s defense exports were $1,089 billion in 2011, representing a rise from $832 million in 2009 and $853 in 2010. The U.S team to Turkey includes representatives from AdChem Manufacturing, Allied Wire & Cable, Bell Helicopter, Boeing, Composite Engineering, Ensign-Bickford Aerospace & Defense, FLIR Systems, General Electric, Industrial Metals, Infinity Air, IOMAX, ITT Exelis, Moog Components Group, Northrop Grumman, Nova Power Solutions, OSIsoft, Sikorsky, SpaceX and Trimble.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/sikorksy-deal-delay-hits-turkey-us-ties.aspx?pageID=238&nid=36128

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Dim 9 Déc 2012 - 15:22

Le satellite espion turc Göktürk-2 sera lancé le 19 décembre en Chine. Suivra le lancement du satellite espion turc Göktürk-1.
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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Dim 9 Déc 2012 - 18:45

Qui a fabriqué les satéllites ?

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Dim 9 Déc 2012 - 18:47

Viper a écrit:
Qui a fabriqué les satéllites ?

Le Göktürk-2 est 100% turc. Le Göktürk-1 est le fruit de la coopération entre turc et italien. Les satellites suivants seront tous de fabrication turque.
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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Dim 9 Déc 2012 - 18:51

Le lancement normalement à 18h13 heure Turque (16h13 GMT)

Des infos sur le satellite :

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Dim 9 Déc 2012 - 19:46

Baybars a écrit:
Viper a écrit:
Qui a fabriqué les satéllites ?

Le Göktürk-2 est 100% turc. Le Göktürk-1 est le fruit de la coopération entre turc et italien. Les satellites suivants seront tous de fabrication turque.

ok je comprend mieux le choix d'un lanceur chinois ...

Israel va grincer des dents ils seront bientôt plus les seul à regarder du ciel...

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Mar 11 Déc 2012 - 16:07

Des nouvelles de Roketsan, focus sur sa coopération internationale :

Négos pour intégrer le Cirit sur le Tigre ...

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Roketsan Aims to Take Part in “Defence News Top 100” List with its Current Projects and Products in 2016
Roketsan is one of the Strategic Centers of Turkey’s defence industry that produces technology. L.Ret.General Mr.Eyüp Kaptan, Chairman of the Board of Directors, Roketsan assessed their export activities, on going programmes latest status about "Cirit" "Umtas" "Omtas" missile systems, international cooperations with Global Company and future of Roketsan for Defence Turkey Magazine Readers.

Defence Turkey: Firstly, we would like to thank you for your time. You, as Roketsan, have accomplished 2011 successfully in terms of production, investment and sale as per the figures. Could you please make us a brief evaluation of 2011?

2011 was very hectic similar to previous years and we left 2011 behind with new successes despite the economic recession in all over the world. At the beginning of 2011, a new organizational structure was established in Roketsan focusing on product and technology.

Through market development studies, the total remaining project contract value reached nearly 4 billion TL as of the end of 2011. With its unique design, development, manufacturing and custom solutions such as Cirit, Umtas, Omtas, DSH, 107 mm, 122 mm and 300 mm Artillery Systems, Roketsan has been moving forward rapidly in order to be a global company. Roketsan is accepted as a reliable brand with its fully indigenous design products not only by Turkish Armed Forces but also allied states.

Roketsan, serving both the defence of our country as well as friendly and allied states, has been significantly contributing to the strengthening of Turkey’s technological infrastructure together with its increasing diversified and qualified subcontractors. Roketsan has become a sound defence industry organization, performing activities with 1400 success-oriented experts at 4 different locations and 120 buildings established on a total of 2.000.000 m² space, 75.000 m² of which is an indoor area.

Roketsan initiated activities in 1988 with 25 core personnel and reached 550 personnel at its 10th anniversary and as of today the number of personnel is nearly 1500 (50% of which is engineers) as a result of the requirements due to the increasing number and scope of projects. The sales figures of Roketsan in 2007 were recorded as 124 million TL in 2007; 279 million TL in 2011 and are expected to be 496 million TL in 2012. 39.5% of the total sales in the last 5 years generated from export sales. The system design projects also have significant shares within our projects together with mass production. Besides, a resource is allocated from Roketsan equities for R&D and technology development activities each year.

With our sales volume and missile technology, we are progressing rapidly and with confidence to be amongst top 50 companies that lead the global market

Defence Turkey: Istanbul Mineral and Metal Exporters’ Association (İMMİB) awarded a grand prize to Roketsan amongst its members for the best exportation performance in "Machinery Products" category in 2011. The export revenue has a significant share in Roketsan’s 2011 sales volume. Could you please inform us on your products and capabilities as well as the current markets that you are performing activities? What are the projects and programs being currently executed in other countries?

Within the scope of its studies in line with its vision, Roketsan has been performing the export of Ground-to-Ground and Air-to-Ground Rocket / Missile, which was developed and manufactured with its technological infrastructure and vast knowledge, and the sub-components of these systems such as the Control Propulsion System, Rocket Engine, Warhead, Launcher Unit.

Our export activities have been continuing to 5 different countries (USA, Italy, Norway and United Arab Emirates) within the scope 9 different programs.

In addition to local development and production studies, Roketsan has also been continuing market development activities from the Continent of America to Far East; from South Africa to Northern Europe. Roketsan has become known as a brand amongst world’s giant defence industry companies.

Besides, the studies for the export of 2.75" Laser Guided Missile "Cirit"; Long Range Anti-Tank System "Umtas"; Multiple Launch Rocket System to new markets have been continuing.

Within the scope of indigenous product development studies, an efficient promotion has been made in international market for Cirit, Umtas, Omtas and DSH systems, which are being developed for the requirements of Turkish Armed Forces. An efficient marketing activity has been carried out for the establishment of Munitions Disposal Facilities (MIGYEM) and Munitions Surveillance Facilities (MAAT) by Roketsan as per the requirements of allied states.

Defence Turkey: Roketsan has been developing many indigenous systems to be used at Attack Helicopters in line with the requirements of Turkish Armed Forces such as 2.75" Laser Guided Missile "Cirit"; Long Range Anti-Tank System "Umtas"; Multiple Launch Rocket System "Omtas". In addition, the development studies for composite armor for Altay tank have also been continuing. Could you please inform us on the current status of such indigenous systems?

The mass production of Turkey’s first "indigenous" missile system Cirit was launched. The first delivery was made to Turkish Armed Forces in May 2012. Cirit missile, which was fully developed by Turkish engineers and produced in Turkey, will be one of the major weapons of T-129 Atak, which is Turkey’s first "indigenous" attack helicopter. The partial deliveries will continue to be made until 2014.

The development tests and pre-qualification studies of Umtas and Omtas Projects are still continuing. In Umtas Project, firing tests from helicopter were launched and tactical configuration was mostly achieved. The benefits of Umtas studies are being enjoyed at maximum in Omtas Project, in line with the technological integrity; the firing tests were launched and successful results have been recorded in Control Test Missile firings.

One of the foremost gains achieved in Umtas and Omtas Projects is that the indigenous anti-tank missile systems of our country are taken part in the inventory. When it comes to sub-components and the related critical technologies, local technological gains are being achieved in the fields not studied or industrialized before such as the development of MEMS-based inertial measurement unit; warhead technologies for high performance armor piercing; infrared image detection helmet with non-cooling detector, RF data link allowing two-way wireless data transfer between missile and firing platform.

Owing to their high technology and performance, Umtas and Omtas are considered to have significant export potentials. Thanks to its modular design, Umtas is a system that would be used against all current modern main battle tanks with its current version or different detection helmets to be developed upon request and has features to be integrated with attack helicopters and other platforms.

Altay Project, Armor System Development activities are continuing in accordance with the project schedule. The Conceptual Design Phase and Pre-design Phase were completed successfully with the approval of the Undersecretariat for Defence Industry. Being currently at Detailed Design Phase, on one hand the contractual studies are being carried and on the other hand the related studies regarding the mass production are being performed.

Through the Ballistic Protection Center (BKM) established within the scope of the Contract and gathered the designing, testing and manufacturing capabilities in a single facility in the field of heavy armor technology for the first time in Turkey, not only the protection needs of Altay tanks, but also the ballistic protecting needs of Turkey are met. This technology center aims to monitor and coordinate the studies made and to be made in the field of armor technology in Turkey. The vision of BKM is to become an Armor Excellence Center of our country in the fields of heavy and light armor design, development and production; be amongst the companies leading the world market in the field of ballistic protection technologies through unique product design capability, advanced technology and testing capability.

Though it is newly opened, BKM is also generating ballistic protection solutions in order to meet the needs of Turkish Armed Forces even in other projects except for Altay.

Defence Turkey: Roketsan signed MoU with Eurocopter in 2011 IDEF fair for the integration of 2.75" Laser Guided Missile "Cirit" with EC 635 helicopter platforms. The firing tests of "Cirit" are planned to be realized in the South Africa with the participation of senior military officials from many countries in 2012. What is the current status of this MoU? Are there any studies being performed in order for "Cirit" to be used in other Eurocopter helicopter platforms such as Tiger? In which foreign markets do you plan to enter with "Cirit"?

Our first indigenous missile Cirit, which was developed by Roketsan, has many innovations compared to its other competitors in the market. In addition to its first launch for mass production in the market, it is the only missile that has 8 km range, multi-purpose warhead and insensitive munitions. Besides, since it was developed through local possibilities, it is not subject to certain international restrictive regulations such as ITAR and as a result it comes to the forefront in certain markets.

Within this context, not only the military authorities but also the platform (helicopter, Unmanned Aerial Vehicle, Land Vehicle, and etc.) manufacturers have interest on Cirit. As you also mention, the integration studies of Cirit with EC635 Platform are still underway. Unfortunately, the planned firing was delayed due to the administrative reasons arisen in Eurocopter. We will be realizing such firings at a later time. Besides, we have started negotiations for the integration with Eurocopter’s Tiger Platform with German MBDA Company. The negotiations are proceeding positively and I think we will give good news to you soon.

Similar studies are in progress also with other platform manufacturers. The international promotion, proposal and sale activities for the integration of Cirit missile also on Machine Gun Pods (such as FN Herstal), Armored Land Vehicles, Fixed Wing Light Aircrafts and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles are being carried out.

The production studies of Cirit missile and Cirit Intelligent Pod System (CAPS) for T-129 ATAK Helicopter are still ongoing and no schedule related problem is expected.

Defence Turkey: Are there any plans in the future to implement Medium and Long Range Anti-Tank Missiles and Laser Guided "Cirit" programs especially on land and marine platforms except for air platforms? If so, how do you think the capabilities gained through this provide benefit for international platforms?

As a mentioned before, the integration studies of Cirit with certain platforms (Helicopter, Unmanned Aerial Vehicle, Land Vehicle, and etc.) in the international market are still continuing. We will be demonstrating the different platform implementations of such systems through agreements to be signed in international market in 2012 and the next year. Umtas system, like Cirit, will also be fired from these platforms. We have developed a launcher system that is to be jointly used by Cirit and Umtas. Each market development and marketing activity made for Cirit today will also create a potential market for Umtas. This will provide us a significant strategic and financial advantage during the marketing of Umtas.

Defence Turkey: What are the activities that you are carrying out with global defence companies? What are your studies for the sale of final products as a result of such alignments to the third world countries?

The awards granted to Roketsan can be shown as an indicator for its successful studies made with world’s giant companies.

Within the scope of PATRIOT Controlling Unit Production Project, our customer Raytheon IDS granted Roketsan "2011 Supplier Excellence Award" on May 12th, 2012 in Boston / USA for Roketsan’s 2011 studies, quality, performance and on time delivery.

Also, again within the scope of PATRIOT Controlling Unit Production Project, Roketsan was honored with a "Preferred Raytheon Patriot Supplier" certificate due to its 2010 and 2011 Excellence Awards. The certificate was presented to me on behalf of my company on May 7th, 2012 in Boston / USA.

Raytheon Company, which is amongst the biggest weapon manufacturers in the world and the main contractor of PATRIOT, selected Roketsan as its strategic partner for the production of Patriot GEM-T Missile Controlling Unit in 2009. Roketsan is proud of being honored by Raytheon amongst its 5.000 subcontractors.

Succeeding again this year as the last year with an award by a big defence company, having lots of subcontractor around the world, is one of the most important proofs of our highest quality and performance commitment to our customers.

Similarly, during ATC in USA, we signed MoU with Lockheed Martin for the production and sale of single canisters of PAC-3 Missiles by Roketsan. The studies on this are underway.

Also, the rocket engines of OTOMAT missile, in addition to ASPIDE program realized with MBDA for the requirements of the third world countries, will also be developed and produced by Roketsan. We signed this agreement in 2012. Our more comprehensive cooperation studies with MBDA are still continuing. I hope we and MBDA will share with you the news on recent programs in the near future.

Our studies for the production of NSM Launcher with Norwegian KONSBERG Company are proceeding in line with the contract and schedule.


Defence Turkey: What are your short and long-term market strategies and targets in the international market?

Roketsan, on the 100th Anniversary of our Republic, aims to "be the leading company in missile and rocket technologies from underwater to space and become amongst the world’s top 50 companies directing the world market with its unique products and advanced technology, sales volume and missile technologies" with its "serving to the country’s defence with rocket and missile systems and contributing to Turkey’s technological infrastructure" mission and in line with its vision.


The orders of Roketsan have reached over 2 billion US$ with local and foreign project contracts signed since 2008. With the projects aimed to be concluded within the next 5 years, we aim to keep the current orders at least 2,5 billion US$.

On the other hand, Roketsan aims to take part in "Defense News Top 100" list with its current projects and products in 2016 and everyone in Roketsan will do his share in achieving this goal.

http://www.defenceturkey.com/?p=article&i=731

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Mar 11 Déc 2012 - 16:27

Coopération avec le Qatar, tiré d'un entretien avec le Général Hamad Bin Ali Al-Attiyah, chef d'Etat major des forces armées Quatariennes :

(Entretien publié le 15 novembre 2012)

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Defence Turkey. Milgem is an important milestone in Turkish naval capabilities and technology. Within the gained expertise, Turkish RMK, Aselsan, Havelsan and STM industrial team is interested in C-1600 corvette for the Qatari naval forces requirements. How do you assess Turkey’s presence and position in this program?

After watching the ship corvette type (Milgem) with my friend, Deputy Turkish Defense Minister Mr. Kemal Yardımcı , I have directed the head committee of the navy projects to engage the Turkish company (RMK) in the project (corvette) as a competitor that provides its technical presentation and this project is still under study .



Defence Turkey: Yonca- Onuk has recently signed a contract to deliver t3 Onuk MRTP34 fast patrol/attack crafts and 3 Onuk MRTP16 fast intervention crafts to the Qatar Armed Forces. Could you please enlighten us about the program being carried out with Yonca- Onuk?

Yes, we have signed a contract to procure six (6) of the boats of the company (Yonca- Onuk). Those boats will be received at the beginning of the year 2013 and we look forward to purchasing more of those types in the future.

Defence Turkey: Qatar and Havelsan have been negotiating on AW 139 simulators. How do you assess the activities and negotiations on this regard?

Yes, we had talks with the Turkish company Havelsan on the simulators AW139 and we have almost finished all of the details and are in the final stages of signing a contract with the company.

Defence Turkey: TAI has strengthened its position by indigenous UAV Anka and Atak helicopter. How do you assess Anka and Atak and opportunities in this regard?

Since the announcement of this aircraft by TAI company, we have been interested in and also followed the developments regarding the production of this aircraft and we have been waiting for the final declaration of its entry into service.

Defence Turkey: Recently, it is known that Dearsan’s Diving Support Vessels attracted the interest of Qatari navy. What are the activities and the status of the negotiations for this vessel?

We received a technical offer of the company (DEARSAN) about the Turkish diving boat, this project is among the future projects of naval forces, and the committee is currently studying and evaluating that offer.

Defence Turkey: Mini UAV agreement signed between Turkish Kale-Baykar and Qatar. Could you please inform us about the developments in this project?

With respect to Mini UAV that has been purchased from the Turkish company Kale- Baykar, I would like to inform that the Qatari Armed Forces have received this aircraft and it is currently in service.

http://www.defenceturkey.com/?p=article&i=732

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Mer 12 Déc 2012 - 12:07

Roketsan nous gratifie d'une photo de son SAM dans le cadre du projet SHORAD mené avec Aselsan


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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Mer 12 Déc 2012 - 15:06

Encore et toujours Roketsan, l'entreprise a signé un contrat avec MBDA Italie pour la conception/développement/test/qualification/production d'un nouveau moteur-fusée pour une nouvelle variante du missile anti-navire TESEO :

Le projet avance en conformité avec le calendrier fixé.



Source Turque : http://www.roketsan.com.tr/urunler-hizmetler/hava-sistemleri/teseo-fuzesi-icin-roket-motoru-gelistirme/

PS : Dafuq, pourquoi leur site n'est pas aussi en anglais Mad

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Mer 12 Déc 2012 - 15:18

inanc a écrit:
Roketsan nous gratifie d'une photo de son SAM dans le cadre du projet SHORAD mené avec Aselsan


C'est mieux en grand..



Récapitulatif du projet AA turc..

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Mer 12 Déc 2012 - 15:35

Y aura de très belles choses à la prochaine IDEF'13 qui commencera le 07 mai, je remercie les autorités Turques pour ce cadeau, je fêterai ce jour là mon 1/4 de siècle.

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Jeu 13 Déc 2012 - 20:33

Un focus sur Aselsan, si je contribue pas à ce topic presque quotidiennement, je me sens pas bien ...

Let's go

Le secteur de la Défense en Turquie et les objectifs, dans l'ordre :

- Chiffre d'affaires
- Exportations
- Dépenses R&D
- Contribution nationale dans les équipements achetés par le SSM (= utilisé par les TSK)



Classement mondiale d'Aselsan sur base du CA (référence Defense news) :



Facilities d'Aselsan (on voit l'importance du REHIS en chantier - 2014), on a l'espace totale et l'espace fermé (bâtiments) en m²



- Parts d'Aselsan dans le Monde et d'autres entreprises Turques :



Capitalisation boursière d'Aselsan (au 15 novembre 2012, valeur estimé à 3.2 milliards de Livres, environ 1.8 milliards de $) :



Les 10 plus gros projets d'Aselsan (le reste à payer des commandes) :

- T-129 (Projet ATAK)
- Système de défense aérien faible altitude (Projet AİHSFS)
- Suite de guerre électronique de Protection pour hélicoptère (Projet HEWS : Helicopter Electronic Warfare Self Protection Suit)
- Système de défense aérien moyenne altitude (Projet OİHSFS)
- Système intégré de combat pour la Gendarmerie
- Radios multibande à base de logiciel (pour le Pakistan)
- Intégration système EO/IR SAR GMTI
- Système de canon anti-aérien (équivalent SPAAG)
- ADOP-2000 (Système de support au tir)
- Nouveau type de sous-marin (projet U-214TN)

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La part des ventes d'Aselsan :

- 12% pour l'export, 9.3% MO + Républiques Turques, 2.5% Europe, 0.3% Amériques)
- Devises des ventes
- Devises des dépenses



Cumul des commandes d'Aselsan et répartitions sur les années à venir (ça va livrer en 2013 & 2014 Very Happy )


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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Ven 14 Déc 2012 - 13:46

Le SSM Murad Bayar nous donne quelques news :

- Projet de pistolet national pour la police et l'armée, les entreprises ayant envoyés leurs prototypes, il est prévu de passer à la production en série dans les 2 ans :

1)Trabzon Silah Sanayi (TİSAŞ)
2) GİRSAN Silah Sanayi
3) Canik
4) Sarsılmaz
5) Asilsan

- Le fusil d'assaut national sera produit en 2013, MKE a eu besoin d'assistance dans la conception, le secteur privé est plus concerné même pour la production en série (encore une fois on est deçu par MKE, le maillon faible pour moi)

- Livraison des 195 derniers MRAP Kirpi au plus tard en avril (BMC a eu des problèmes de cash flow ces derniers mois, la prod s'était arrêtée)

- Y a un vrai travail pour mettre en place des mécanismes de financement pour les exportations (bonne nouvelle)

- Le développement des prototypes et les tests des systèmes de défenses aériens (faible et moyenne portée) ont déjà commencé, les tests se passeraient bien.

- Faut pas attendre un équivalent du Patriot pour l'instant, trop compliqué, c'est au dessus de nos moyens

Source en Turque : http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ekonomi/22152430.asp

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Ven 14 Déc 2012 - 15:56

vous utilisez encore le Nike en long range,je croyais qu´y avait prog national...avec le parapluie otan mtn assuré,qu´en sera t-il du Loramids?
la piste russe est morte a mon avis,dommage vous aurez pu turquiser un S400 a votre sauce et vous affranchire de l´option US

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Ven 14 Déc 2012 - 16:53

Le sytème AA longue portée sera la continuité des programmes en cours (courte et moyenne portée). On va pas construire le Destroyer TF-2000 sans avoir eu de l'expérience, pareil avec l'Altay (Pas comme les Indiens).

Tout cela se fera avec le temps.


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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Ven 14 Déc 2012 - 19:59

Baybars a écrit:
Le sytème AA longue portée sera la continuité des programmes en cours (courte et moyenne portée). On va construire le Destroyer TF-2000 sans avoir eu de l'expérience, pareil avec l'Altay (Pas comme les Indiens).

Tout cela se fera avec le temps.

Baybars, il faut pas oublier que pour le TF-2000, on négocie avec les Yankee pour le SM-2 et autres armements.

Le plus dur dans cette frégate c'est pas le navire, on a l'expérience de nos chantiers navals pour ça mais c'est les senseurs et toute l'électronique embarquée qui est importante.

Faut pas s'en faire pour la frégate, c'est le CAFRAD qui est coton.

Quant au Altay, il faut pas oublier qu'on coopère avec les Coréens, beaucoup de gens ici et là sont moins enthousiastes sur le degré de "national" dans l'Altay, la nuance entre "milli" et "ozgun".

Concernant le MBT après avoir lu certaines analyses, j'ai mis un peu d'eau dans mon vin

Moi je suis très content de nos progrès quand je vois les déboires du F-35, A400M, des sociétés comme LM ou Airbus qui ont bcp plus d'expérience mais qui accumule les retards quand même.

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MessageSujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque   Ven 14 Déc 2012 - 20:04

Inanç, je suis d'accord avec toi, mais je reste très optimiste, tout cela se fera avec le temps.
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