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MessageSujet: Armée Italienne   Jeu 7 Mai 2009 - 17:41

la premiere fregate classe " orizon" la " andrea doria" desitne a la marine militaire italienne est entre en service l'an dernier contruite par la " riva trigoso( genova) en attendant sa soeur la "Caio Duilio" qui la suivra cette anne fait partie d'une cooperation italo-francaise , tout come la france qui s'est muni de 2 exemplaire nous nous souvenons tous de la derniere viste du " forbin" a casablanca.

la " andrea doria" est presque identique au "forbin" par ex ici dessus :





avec ces 6.000 tonnes et 153 metres de longeur c'est la plus grande fregate jamais contruite en italie, capacite ASW,equipage de 230 d'hommes , furtivite et un sisteme missilistique anti-aerien composè de:

-RADAR multifunction " EMPAR".

-RADAR A a long-portee "LRR S-1850 M ".

-lanceur verticale sylver de type A50 donc pour les aster 15 et 30.



pour les MM40 block 3 (anti-navy) ..en effet je disais presque identique au " forbin" car il semble que les italiens utilisent leur propres missiles les "

Teseo Mk2".

reste une autre petite difference au lieu des cannons a 25 mm ils utilisent ceux a 20 mm.

















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avec les francais en exercice:











avec les russes..euhmm:











p.s:vu le topic verouille je tiens a remercier ici tout le staff pour la medaille, j'etais tres emu les gars..vraiment.
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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Jeu 7 Mai 2009 - 21:42

Merci pour ces magnifique photo Gigg. J'aime particulierement celle ou l'on voit la fregate italienne avec le navire russe. Une photo qui en dit long sur la difference de génération entre les deux navires Twisted Evil
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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Jeu 7 Mai 2009 - 22:00

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Merci pour ces magnifique photo Gigg. J'aime particulierement celle ou l'on voit la fregate italienne avec le navire russe. Une photo qui en dit long sur la difference de génération entre les deux navires Twisted Evil

de rien mon ami..en effet de la mon "..euhmm"...ils ont des siecles a rattrapper dans ce domaine:roll:
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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Dim 31 Mai 2009 - 21:35

Good News for Italy.

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Alenia Aeronautica completes the deliveries of the C-27Js to the Italian Air Force with the 12th aircraft delivered
Today, at its Caselle South facility, Alenia Aeronautica completed deliveries
to the Italian Air Force (AMI) with the delivery of the twelfth C-27J. The aircraft was delivered to the 46th Air Wing based in Pisa. Today’s ceremony completes the deliveries of aircraft that began in January 2007.

The AMI C-27Js include an advanced and sophisticated configuration that, in addition to the basic configuration, includes an in-flight refuelling system, self-protection and a flight-data-projection system on two head-up-displays, one per each pilot, to be able to operate also in the most complex operational scenarios.

Alenia’s contract with the AMI includes Logistics Support at the Pisa base until the beginning of 2012 and the delivery of a Flight Simulator for the AMI Training Centre at Pisa in December 2009. The C-27sJ replace the AMI fleet of G.222s, from which they have inherited capability and excellent operating performances displayed in operations both in Italy and overseas for the transport of troops and materials, civilian protection, airdrop of cargo and paratroopers, fire fighting, and search and rescue.

Combat proven, the C-27J has been deployed to Afghanistan by the Italian Air Force from September 2008-January 2009 in support of coalition military and humanitarian operations. The C-27J fleet of the AMI has accrued over 5,000 flight hours, a milestone celebrated at the military base of Pisa this past May 19th.

The “numbers” of the C-27J are excellent: The C-27J is able to take-off from and land on unprepared strips, shorter than 2,000 ft with a maximum take-off weight of 67,241 lbs; the aircraft can transport up to 68 troops or up to 46 fully equipped paratroopers plus two loadmasters and, in MEDEVAC/CASEVAC configuration, 36 stretchers plus six medical assistants.

The large cargo cross section (8.5 feet in height and 10.8 feet in width) together with the high floor strength (cargo capacity of over 3,320 lbs/ft), allow for the transport of heavy military equipment. The C-27J it is the only aircraft of its class offering interoperability with heavier airlifters in service with other NATO air forces, also thanks to its large cabin cross section, allowing the transport of NATO-standard pallets.

The C-27J is a twin-engine turboprop tactical transport aircraft with state-of-the-art technology, avionics, propulsion and systems. It demonstrates superior performance over its competitors in all weather conditions, cost effectiveness, extreme operating flexibility. The C-27J is equipped with powerful engines (two Rolls Royce AE2100-D2 rated at 4,650 SHP power) and an advanced avionics system designed for integral mission security and reliability with significant system redundancy. This permits the aircraft to operate in any weather condition and in any operational environment, the excellent design and performance of these systems results in a low workload for the pilots.

The C-27J is designed, developed and tested as a true military aircraft using military standards to produce a robust, safe and performing aircraft, and has obtained Military Qualification Certificate. At the same time the C-27J is airworthy to civil standards, as witnessed by its certification from the Civil Aviation Authority.

The C-27J has been ordered by the Italian, Greek, Bulgarian, Lithuanian, Romanian, Moroccan Air Forces, by the United States’ Army and Air Force for a total of 121 planes, and it has been selected by Slovakia’s Air Force.


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MessageSujet: porte-avion cavour   Mer 10 Juin 2009 - 20:48

Edit:contenu effacé pour non-respect aux regles du Forum
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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Mer 10 Juin 2009 - 21:27

Like a Star @ heaven post sans citation
Like a Star @ heaven photos non linkés
Like a Star @ heaven langue italienne pas acceptable,a part si tu poste une traduction apres

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Jeu 11 Juin 2009 - 0:08

la7ayata limane tounadi ...
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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Jeu 11 Juin 2009 - 14:37

Il a oublié de faire son tour au PC pour voir les regles de postage Evil or Very Mad

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Jeu 11 Juin 2009 - 15:32

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Jeu 11 Juin 2009 - 17:01

vous avez trouve quelque chose a propos de la portavion "CAVOUR" ??
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MessageSujet: Armée Italienne   Lun 15 Juin 2009 - 21:10

1ere femme pilote italienne a bord de l'eurofigther: le lieutenant"Maria Federica Maddalena":

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Jeu 20 Aoû 2009 - 1:59


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Italian Navy Takes Delivery of Its 21st AW101 Helicopter
AgustaWestland, a Finmeccanica company, is pleased to announce that the Italian Navy has taken today delivery of its 21st AW101 three-engine medium/heavy helicopter during an official ceremony held at Maristaeli Luni naval base in Italy.
This Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW)/Anti-Surface Warfare (ASuW) configured aircraft is the first unit of the last AW101 batch for the service which has committed to a total of 24 AW101s.
The Italian Navy is already operating 8 ASW/ASuW, 4 HEW (helicopter early warning) and 8 amphibious support helicopters. The Italian Navy’s AW101s ASW and HEW variants are amongst the most advanced naval helicopters in service today and have been successfully deployed on overseas operations providing a major contribution to international maritime operations.
The long range and endurance of the AW101 combined with the capabilities of its sensors and onboard processers make it a highly effective naval helicopter.
Recently the Italian Navy supported the G8 Forum in Italy using the AW101 to perform transport for heads of state and government officials. The AW101 was chosen due to its safety, cabin space and comfort.
The maritime variant of the AW101 is in service with the Italian Navy and the UK’s Royal Navy having replaced the Sea King helicopter in a number of ship and shore based roles.
Also the Japanese Maritime Self Defence Force (JMSDF) has chosen the AW101 for Airborne Mine Countermeasures and Antarctic Survey operations designated the MCH101 and the CH101 respectively.
Over 170 AW101 helicopters have been ordered so far by customers worldwide to perform a number of roles.
source:defencetalk.com

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Mer 9 Sep 2009 - 23:22

des AMX italiens upgradés ont effecté un exercice green flag a Nellis,pour une eventuelle participaion en Afghanistan

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Ven 18 Sep 2009 - 18:50



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MessageSujet: Armée Italienne   Ven 18 Sep 2009 - 22:42

eh oui fremo c'est bien la "cavour" le dernier nè des armateurs de la "spezia"..j'avais preparè le sujet il y'a longtemps..mais Bon on est jamais trop tard..donc voila je vous presente la "cavour":

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* entrè en servce en 2008 a soutenire le 1er porte-aero italien ,le vieux " garibaldi" encore en service jusqu'a 2020.

1.Doneès techniques:


Dimensions: length: 244 m; width: 39 m; immersion: 8.7 m; height superstructure of 14 deck: 36.6 m.

Displacement: 27,500 (27,100?) tons full load, 21,160 tons unloaded, 22,290 tons standard, > 30.000 tons expected at the end of service life .

Propulsion: 4 gas turbines LM2500 for a total of 88 MW (max. continuous power), 2 5-bladed shafts, bow and aft thrusters with a orientable propeller blades .

Speed: 28-29 knots max continuous sustained speed , 30 knots max expected during trials, 24 knots on just 2 gas turbines and 1 shaft, knots on just 1 gas turbine and 1 shaft (minimum for Harrier STOVL operations)
Thanks to 2 pairs of fins active stabilizers, the vessel is much more stable and allows the flight operations with the sea up to force 6 as well as improving comfort of the crew.

Range: 7000 miles at 16 knots, 18 days on navigation. Tank from 2,500,000 litres of diesel, the cruising speed will consume 3,000 litres per hour, 25,000 at full speed.

Electric: at 660 V and 50 Hz for a total power installed of 17.6 MW, approximately 270% of the maximum power demand. The system is composed of 6 groups diesel-generatori from 2200 KW Wärtsilä 12 V200 CW and two groups generator/alternator sets directly driven by the propulsion plant, also from 2200 KW.

Crew: accommodation for 1210 +91 people, including 451 crew, 203 for the air group, 140 for the command complex (C4I) and 416 (325 +91) for the San Marco regiment (italian marines) or the new Forza di Proiezione dal Mare (FPM - Force projection from the sea).

Radar: 3D multi-function phased-array radar for air and surface search Selex Sistemi Integrati (ex-AMS) MM/SPY-790 EMPAR, 3D long range radar air search Selex Sistemi Integrati (ex-AMS) (MM/SPS-798) RAN-40L, short/medium range radar for surface and low altitude air search Selex Sistemi Integrati (ex-AMS) RAN-30X/I (SPS-791), provision only for 2 Selex Systems Integrated (ex-AMS) RTN-25X for control of naval guns OTO Melara 72mm/62, radar system for air control and advanced precision approach Galileo Avionica SPN 720, navigation radar GEM Elettronica MM/SPN-753(v)4.

Le EMPAR (MM/SPY-790):



la componente ESM de la guerre electronic..donc le sisteme IFF SIR M5-PA :



le radar early warning RAN-40 L (MM/SPS-798) pour la scansion aerienne a grande distance :



le radar pour la recherche de superficie RASS (MM/SPS-791) :



Sonar: Whitehead Alenia Sistemi Subacquei (WASS) SNA 200 ) bow-mounted Navigation/Mine Avoidance Sonar, Euroslat SLAT torpedo decoy towed array sensor.

Sensor/system: Sagem VAMPIR-MB IRAS (Infra-Red Alerting System) IR surface/air surveillance; 1 Selex Galileo SASS (Silent Acquisition Sub-System) thermal image (IR) system for detection and tracking to 360°; Telephonics AN/SPN-41A radio frequency all-weather instrument approach landing system; system Selex Sistemi Integrati IFF SIR-R/S and SIR M5-PA.

Electronic warfare: Elettronica SpA integrated ESM/Elint/ECM suite.

Armament: Combat system SAAM-IT for 32 (4x8) surface-air Aster 15 on vertical launcher DCN Sylver A43, 2 sistems AEM Dardo-F for controlling 2 naval guns OTO Melara 72mm/62 and 3 naval guns Oto-Melara Oerlikon KBA 25mm/80.




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Countermeasures: 2 AMS/Oto-Melara SCLAR-H decoys launchers anti-missiles, 2 Euroslat SLAT anti-torpedo defence system launchers.

Command Center: The center can provide capacity Control, Command, Communications, Computers and Information (C4I), the command center is spread out over an area of more than 1,100 m2 and has more than 150 workstations on which they can operate up to 230 people to manage naval, air and amphibious operations. Given the large, it was decided to place the center under the flight deck to reduce the size of island to the minimum..

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Comunications: Selex integrated communication system which includes SHF/UHF SICRAL with terminal SATCOM, HF Multi-channel, VHF, military UHF, VHF ICAO, VHF IMM, INMARSAT, METOC, GMDSS and tactical communications for command and control with 2 Link 11, Link 16 and predisposition for Link 22/NILE (NATO Improved Link Eleven).

Security: the passive safety of ship, namely defense capabilities fire and flaws, has been particularly cared all using the most advanced techniques and experience accumulated over the years. The ship is divided into 7 zones, and is equipped with a computerized system for monitoring and decision support in emergency conditions. The ship is divided into 7 zones, and is equipped with a computerized system for monitoring and decision support in emergency conditions. These people have taken such as smoke curtain, the new criteria for stations over breathable air and on the collector ring, arrangements for the disposal of fumes, the relative positions, accessibility and the conformation of local relevance to the Service Safety (COP, COC, area health, control stations), and so forth. See the image below.
The unit is equipped with all the necessary environment to operate in contaminated area by NBC agents (nuclear, bacteriological or chemical).
On board there is a system degaussing (degaussig) fully automated to reduce magnetic anomalies generated by the unit and therefore to reduce the risk due to landmines.

Miscellaneous: The Standard housing are very high, both in terms of space per person than as finishing level housing and services are provided for single or double accommodation for officers and staff of the role marshals, accommodation in four places for staff roles warrant and troops; remain collective "comrade" only for the staff of San Marco Regiment, to embark only for special needs and for limited periods. There are great public spaces, including bar, cinema and gym.

The vessel is covered by 1360 km of cables and 190 cameras. There are 2 cells for food by 400 and 800 m2, 2 deposits for food and 2 kitchens with ovens for the fresh bread . There are also desalinization to make drinking water from the sea.
Particular care was given to the activities of loading, packaging and distribution of food and waste management, liquid and solid with the ristrittive rules MARPOL 73/78 (Marine Pollution) for commercial ships, not mandatory for military ships. The MARPOL 73/78 was designed to minimize pollution of the marine ecosystem (water and air), and covers the possible causes of pollution naval: municipal solid waste and non fuels, gaseous emissions and toxic substances transported .

2.Capacitès de transport aero:

Air group: The ship hasn't assigned a fixed air group but is fixed according to the mission, will be a mix of 20-24 short takeoff vertical landingHarrier AV-8B plus 2 (F35B when available) and helicopters EH-101 (including Mk.112 AEW/HEW, Mk.110 ASW/ASV, Mk.410 TTH/utility e Mk.413 ASH), NH-90 NFH or TTH and SH3D.

Flight-deck: is long 232,6 m and width 34,5 m (surface 6.800+ m2). It has a runway for takeoff short long 183,0 m for 14,2 m, ski-jump with 12° of elevation, a parking area (starboard side) to 10/12 aircraft, 6 spot for helicopters type EH-101 plus a dedicated spot for SAR missions to bow.

Hangar: is long 134,2 m, width 21,0 m e high 7,2 m (8,5 max.). It is connected to the flight deck with 2 McTaggart Scott elevators from 30 tons of which aft an “deck-edge" after the island size 15 m to 14 m, the second forward internal long 21.6 m for 14 m. There are also 2 elevators from 15 tons for ammunition and 2 service elevators from 7 tons. It has tanks 1,500,000 litres of fuel for planes and helicopters. The 2 main elevators do not interfere with the operations of takeoff and landing of aircraft.

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Transport capacity: the hangar can be used as a garage for the transport of terrestrial resources, and can contain up to 24 heavy vehicles like tanks Ariete (over 250 meters), or up to 50 vehicles average as the amphibians AAV7 RAM/RS, Centauro B1, Freccia, Dardo (over 423 meters) or up to 100 vehicles average as VTLM Lince, Puma, Defender e VM90 (over 522 meters). The hangar is accessible by 2 ramps from 60 tons posed stern and straight, under the island.

Capacity of amphibious assault:the San Marco regiment, or the new force projection from the sea (FPM) with the Lagunari army, can be landed with 2 assaults of 6 helicoptersEH-101(2 companies fully equipped) or with the help the 3 LCVP, 3 inflatables and a spear.







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3. Missions et roles:

Command Ship:Using C4I the ship can provide command center that due Italian or NATO operating theater kindly to monitor actions naval, air or land.

Air Defense:the ship can provide high air cover to a naval group, which is the central element, using its aircraft to patrol remote, helicopters HEW for control over the horizon in addition to its long-range radar scope. With the use of data connections can work in unison with the unit basis, especially with the AAW destroyer.

Force Projection: to provide air support for amphibious landings or land operations, air strikes carried out with part of its fighter
Control of the Sea: it can perform anti-submarine missions embarking a number of ASW helicopters, sea control missions or anti-surface mission capabilities of its aircraft and escort unit.

International Missions:working to support peace-keeping missions, including the transport of troops or material
Civil Support:evacuation of non-combatants and humanitarian support in the event of natural disasters to provide logistical coordination or medical support.

4. le cout:

the total cost of the ship should be set at 1.5 billion euros, including combat system. The first contract (NUM 1) between the General Direction for naval armaments (NAVARM) and the company Fincantieri for the acquisition, valued at about 900 million of euros, was signed in November 2000. A second contract (NUM 2.1) for about 230 million euros was signed in 2002 for a good part of the electronic systems. The third contract (NUM 2.2), also for electronics on board, was signed in 2003 with a value of 150 million euros. The acquisition of the ship was divided into nearly a decade of defense budgets and even with the use of funds from the Ministry of Economic Development (MSE), here's a summary table:

before 2001 => <50 milion of euros
2001 => 35 million euros
2002 => 78 milion euros
2003 => 92 milion euros
2004 => 185,9 milion euros
2005 => 177,5 milion euros
2006 => 25,1 milion euros + MSE
2007 => 211,2 milion euros
2008 => 150,3 milion euros

5.contructeur:


Fincatieri SpA at Riva Trigoso (GE) and Muggiano (SP) shipyards.

6.les photos:

En construction a la " spezia":

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prochaiement avec le F-35B:

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MessageSujet: Armée Italienne   Ven 18 Sep 2009 - 23:27

porte-aero " garibaldi":



Les LPD:

*le "san marco":






*le " san giorgio":


* le " san giusto":

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Ven 18 Sep 2009 - 23:41

Good Job gigg00 , j'ai déjà fait un article à propos de ces bétes

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Ven 18 Sep 2009 - 23:47

fremo a écrit:
Good Job gigg00 , j'ai déjà fait un article à propos de ces bétes

thanks my friend .
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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Mer 14 Oct 2009 - 15:25

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Ven 16 Oct 2009 - 0:30



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French troops were killed after Italy hushed up ‘bribes’ to Taleban

From The Times
October 15, 2009

When ten French soldiers were killed last year in an ambush by Afghan insurgents in what had seemed a relatively peaceful area, the French public were horrified.

Their revulsion increased with the news that many of the dead soldiers had been mutilated — and with the publication of photographs showing the militants triumphantly sporting their victims’ flak jackets and weapons. The French had been in charge of the Sarobi area, east of Kabul, for only a month, taking over from the Italians; it was one of the biggest single losses of life by Nato forces in Afghanistan.

What the grieving nation did not know was that in the months before the French soldiers arrived in mid-2008, the Italian secret service had been paying tens of thousands of dollars to Taleban commanders and local warlords to keep the area quiet, The Times has learnt. The clandestine payments, whose existence was hidden from the incoming French forces, were disclosed by Western military officials.

US intelligence officials were flabbergasted when they found out through intercepted telephone conversations that the Italians had also been buying off militants, notably in Herat province in the far west. In June 2008, several weeks before the ambush, the US Ambassador in Rome made a démarche, or diplomatic protest, to the Berlusconi Government over allegations concerning the tactic.

However, a number of high-ranking officers in Nato have told The Times that payments were subsequently discovered to have been made in the Sarobi area as well.

Western officials say that because the French knew nothing of the payments they made a catastrophically incorrect threat assessment.

“One cannot be too doctrinaire about these things,” a senior Nato officer in Kabul said. “It might well make sense to buy off local groups and use non-violence to keep violence down. But it is madness to do so and not inform your allies.”

On August 18, a month after the Italian force departed, a lightly armed French patrol moved into the mountains north of Sarobi town, in the district of the same name, 65km (40 miles) east of Kabul. They had little reason to suspect that they were walking into the costliest battle for the French in a quarter of a century.

Operating in an arc of territory north and east of the Afghan capital, the French apparently believed that they were serving in a relatively benign district. The Italians they had replaced in July had suffered only one combat death in the previous year. For months the Nato headquarters in Kabul had praised Italian reconstruction projects under way around Sarobi. When an estimated 170 insurgents ambushed the force in the Uzbin Valley the upshot was a disaster. “They took us by surprise,” one French troop commander said after the attack.

A Nato post-operations assessment would sharply criticise the French force for its lack of preparation. “They went in with two platoons [approximately 60 men],” said one senior Nato officer. “They had no heavy weapons, no pre-arranged air support, no artillery support and not enough radios.”

Had it not been for the chance presence of some US special forces in the area who were able to call in air support for them, they would have been in an even worse situation. “The French were carrying just two medium machine guns and 100 rounds of ammunition per man. They were asking for trouble and the insurgents managed to get among them.”

A force from the 8th Marine Parachute Regiment took an hour and a half to reach the French over the mountains. “We couldn’t see the enemy and we didn’t know how many of them there were,” said another French officer. “After 20 minutes we started coming under fire from the rear. We were surrounded.”

The force was trapped until airstrikes forced the insurgents to retreat the next morning. By then ten French soldiers were dead and 21 injured.

The French public were appalled when it emerged that many of the dead had been mutilated by the insurgents— a mixed force including Taleban members and fighters from Hizb e-Islami.

A few weeks later French journalists photographed insurgents carrying French assault rifles and wearing French army flak jackets, helmets and, in one case, a dead soldier’s watch.

Two Western military officials in Kabul confirmed that intelligence briefings after the ambush said that the French troops had believed they were moving through a benign area — one which the Italian military had been keen to show off to the media as a successful example of a “hearts and minds” operation.

Another Nato source confirmed the allegations of Italian money going to insurgents. “The Italian intelligence service made the payments, it wasn’t the Italian Army,” he said. “It was payments of tens of thousands of dollars regularly to individual insurgent commanders. It was to stop Italian casualties that would cause political difficulties at home.”

When six Italian troops were killed in a bombing in Kabul last month it resulted in a national outpouring of grief and demands for troops to be withdrawn. The Nato source added that US intelligence became aware of the payments. “The Italians never acknowledged it, even though there was intercepted telephone traffic on the subject,” said the source. “The démarche was the result. It was not publicised because it would have caused a diplomatic nightmare. We found out about the Sarobi payments later.”

In Kabul a high-ranking Western intelligence source was scathing. “It’s an utter disgrace,” he said. “Nato in Afghanistan is a fragile enough construct without this lot working behind our backs. The Italians have a hell of a lot to answer for.”

Haji Abdul Rahman, a tribal elder from Sarobi, recalled how a benign environment became hostile overnight. “There were no attacks against the Italians. People said the Italians and Taleban had good relations between them.

“When the country [nationality of the forces] changed and the French came there was a big attack on them. We knew the Taleban came to the city and we knew that they didn’t carry out attacks on the Italian troops but we didn’t know why.”

The Italian Defence Ministry referred inquiries to the Prime Minister’s Office. A spokesman said: “The American Ambassador in Rome did not make any formal complaint. He merely asked for information, first from the previous Government and then from the current Government. The allegations were denied and they are totally unfounded.”

Silvio Berlusconi, the Prime Minister, defeated Romano Prodi at elections in April 2008.

The claims are not without precedent. In October 2007 two Italian agents were kidnapped in western Afghanistan; one was killed in a rescue by British special forces. It was later alleged in the Italian press that they had been kidnapped while making payments to the Taleban.

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Ven 16 Oct 2009 - 0:40

c'est à cause du manque de coopération des services de renseignement, mais aussi les armes fourni au soldat sont insuffisant

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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Mar 27 Oct 2009 - 15:39

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Italian Ministry of Defence Orders 81 Oto Melara-Built HITROLE Light Turrets



The turrets will equip the Lince vehicles employed in Afghanistan
13:12 GMT, October 27, 2009 Oto Melara, a Finmeccanica company, signed a contract worth around 20 million euro with Italy’s Ministry of Defence - General Directorate of Terrestrial Armaments to supply 81 HITROLE Light turrets.

The HITROLE turrets will be used to equip a number of the Lince vehicles currently employed in Afghanistan, thus increasing operational effectiveness and diminishing risks to personnel. The contract also includes technical assistance.

Oto Melara was selected by Italy’s Ministry of Defence following an international tender that began in July this year. The first turret will be delivered for operational testing four months from the contract registration, while a large number of the turrets will be delivered by the second half of 2010.


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MessageSujet: Re: Armée Italienne/Forze Armate Italiane   Ven 6 Nov 2009 - 6:03

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