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Aujourd'hui les F-5E/F agressor sont au service à US Navu et US Marines, ceux de l US AIR FORCE ont été cédé aux pays amis dont le Maroc

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La commande est passée en 1965, les livraisons en commencé en 68. Et il s'agissait de 24 appareils, comme je l'ai précisé plus haut.

Mais chacun s'obstine à raconter ce qu'il veut... Mad
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One year later, also a Foreign Military Support contract was granted, enabling delivery of 18 F-5A, two RF-5A, and four F-5Bs, which replaced the MiG-17s (it is highly likely that at this occasion several Moroccan MiGs were purchased by the USA in exchange). Support personnel and pilots for F-5s were trained in the USA and with the time the FARM became the favorite military service of the King Hassan - in a manner similar to that of the Imperial Iranian Air Force (IIAF), which was a favorite of the Shah of Iran. This went so far that good cooperation between the FARM and IIAF was established in the late 1960s and early 1970s. A number of Moroccan F-5-pilots were trained in Iran, and also three IIAF F-5As were later donated to the FARM.
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il ne faut jamais dire que l'on a la source la plus sur du monde , moi je dis qu'il y'en avait 21 mais sans en etre sur et sans obliger qui que ce soit a me croire , mais toi tu nous sort des truc venant de nulpart et tu veux que l'on te crois a 100%.
mais la je pense qu'on est HS alors revenons au sujet des agresors americains
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Chahine a écrit:
La commande est passée en 1965, les livraisons en commencé en 68. Et il s'agissait de 24 appareils, comme je l'ai précisé plus haut.

Mais chacun s'obstine à raconter ce qu'il veut... Mad
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Bouziane a deja été chef de corps de la BEFRA
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wé il est sortie avec un grade de colonel
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Je regrette mais les F-5B qu'on a acquis sont au nombre de 4. Un s'étant écrasé à kénitra, il en reste 3.
Ils ont été acheté d'un seul lot, ce qui contredit les infos sur le site de Bouziane.
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-Dogfight contre les F-18C.
-les avantages du F-5 dans le training(il peut depasser les 7000h de vol),et pourquoi la Navy a acheté des 32 F-5 suisses..
-comment ils ont modernisé leur F-5N(ils parlent aussi du VMFT-401)

date de 2 ans mais interessant
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Northrop F-5N for US Navy aggressor squadrons
By Ted Carlson/KS

Having drawn wide apart, four F/A-18C Hornets are now approaching the imaginary target, an enemy airfield, at 880km/h, barely 400m above the Nevada desert. There is still 20km to go. But suddenly the warning receivers of the fighters detect hostile jets in the four o'clock position. A rapid switch to aerial combat mode is called for. While two F/A-18's head for the enemy, the others take cover lower down. The bogeys are also preparing for combat: two aircraft take a dive, one section tries to approach the flank of the F/A-18's and the two remaining aircraft head directly for the Hornets.

Within a matter of a few seconds, a fierce dogfight is under way. For the participating pilots it may not be a matter of survival, but the tension can be felt in every cockpit. After what seems like an eternity, which actually lasts for only four minutes, the outcome is clear. Two F/A-18C's shot down on one side and four F-5N's from Aggressor squadron VFC-13 destroyed on the other.

For the “Saints” such encounters are almost daily routine. “To prepare our mission crew for possible adversaries, we are always on the 'red' side,” explains Commander Rob “Thumper” Modderman, Commanding Officer of VFC-13. “To that extent we belong, like the Top Gun squadrons, to the Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center (NSAWC) in Fallon. But we are quite different from Top Gun. We fly against anyone, we train the masses, and our training is not quite so intensive.

“When the carrier squadrons are preparing for their next tour and come to Fallon for SFARPS (Strike Fighter Advanced Readiness Program), it is primarily we who are in demand. We also play an important role during major exercises of the entire carrier air wing. Thus, over the years we have fought against virtually every Navy squadron.” The training scenarios they act out are devised by NSAWC. “Unfortunately we are sometimes limited in our options and are only allowed to play out relatively simple threat scenarios,” says Commander Modderman wistfully. He has been with the Saints since 1996 and has clocked up 1,700 hours on the F-5. “I personally think it's a mistake, we should always seek to get the maximum out of the Tigers. Putting “handcuffs” on us may make it easier for inexperienced pilots to win, but it could lead to unpleasant surprises in real missions.”

In this connection it should be remembered that the F-5's in the US Navy's Aggressor units are not equipped to keep up with the latest models. For example, a new radar would be necessary to simulate Category III fighters. Despite the shortcomings, on present plans the F-5's will remain in service until about 2015. This is possible thanks to replacement of the elderly F-5E's (which have often notched up over ,7000 flying hours) by aircraft from the Swiss Air Force. At an average price of around $530,000 (€408,000), these were a bargain, especially when one considers that they have only flown around 1,800 hours. The US Navy bought 32 aircraft in Switzerland which are all scheduled to be in service by June 2008 as F-5N's.

Before embarking on this new phase of their lives, the dismantled F-5E's are collected from Emmen in pairs by Navy Reserve C-130T transport aircraft and taken to the Northrop-Grumman plant in St. Augustine, Florida. There they undergo a complete overhaul, including the replacement of structural parts. Amongst other things, new radios are installed. The preparations necessary for installation of the ALQ-167 jammer, with its distinctive antennae on the nose where the cannon barrels were previously located, are also made. This means that the F-5N's can be used for electronic warfare training up to a point. Also installed is the LN-260 inertial navigation system with integrated GPS receiver, which has a much shorter warm-up time of 180 seconds. There are plans to install a 1553 data bus as well, to facilitate the integration of new systems in the future.

As there are only a few two-seater F-5F's, some of the Swiss F-4E's are being altered to carry new nose sections. Unlike the existing F-5F's, the new aircraft are being equipped with two new full cockpits, including radar display. This makes them more valuable for the usual Aggressor missions and not just suitable for training.

As well as the VFC-13 squadron in Fallon, which took delivery of its first F-5N's on 16 March 2004, two other squadrons are being equipped with the overhauled F-5E's from Switzerland. A dozen aircraft are bound for the VMFT-401 “Sniper” Marine Corps unit in Yuma, Arizona and another dozen aircraft for VFC-111 “Sundowners” in Key West, Florida.

The Sundowners were formerly a permanent command of VFC-13, but in November 2006 they received the status of a squadron, taking over the name and insignia of the “Sundowners”, an F-14 unit which was disbanded back in 1995. Expansion of operations in Key West for the Navy squadrons stationed on the east coast is very much welcomed in Fallon, as more and more exercises are being held there and slots are becoming scarce in the exercise areas.

From FLUG REVUE 8/2007
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MessageSujet: Re: Les F-5E/F/N Tiger II / Aggressor   Les F-5E/F/N Tiger II / Aggressor - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMar 26 Mai 2009 - 14:59

qu´est ce qui a mené la Navy a laisser les F-5 pour training jusqu´a 2014/15 Arrow

une Analyse de cost/benefit,avec 3 option:
Like a Star @ heaven status quo
Like a Star @ heaven introduire le F/A-18 A/B en 2008
Like a Star @ heaven upgrader les F-5 avec radar PD


Like a Star @ heaven couts FH(vol/heure) du F-5E/F en comparaison au Hornet

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Like a Star @ heaven installer un radar Pulse/Doppler de 4°Generation coute 1,5M$

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3 Options,ici la 1ere et la 3eme qui nous interessent,la 2eme reservée a l´introduction du Hornet en 2008 ne nous interesse pas

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L´etude Arrow http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA420357&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf
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Une traduction courte SVP bounce
ils veulent plus de F-5 ou quoi?

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Thailand to delay retirement of F-5 fleet

By Siva Govindasamy

Thailand's air force will delay the retirement of its Northrop F-5 fleet after confirming that a plan to buy additional Saab Gripen fighters is off the table indefinitely.

Bangkok signed a deal with the Swedish company in 2008 and planned a follow-up order in 2010, with each contract including six Gripen fighters and one Saab 340-based airborne early warning aircraft.

However, the second deal is on hold after the Thai government cut its defence budget for the current fiscal year to 151 billion baht ($4.43 billion) from 171 billion baht. The military has taken the biggest hit as the country finds ways to fund an economic stimulus package.

As a result, the Royal Thai Air Force's older F-5E/Fs, which have been operational for several decades, will continue to be in service until the middle of the next decade, say industry sources. These will operate together with the first six Gripens until the country goes ahead with a follow-up order, they add.

"The air force had wanted to retire the older F-5s in 2013, when it planned to have an operational squadron of 12 Gripens. But now, they will continue to operate the F-5s as there is still no indication on when the budget for the Gripens will be back on the table. There is also no news on whether it needs to upgrade the F-5s, but that may be necessary at some point," says one source.

Apart from the older F-5s, which are believed to number around 12, the service also has around 15 F-5T Tigers that were upgraded by Israel's Elbit earlier this decade and 60 upgraded Lockheed Martin F-16A/Bs in its inventory.

Saab has begun manufacturing the Thai Gripens and Bangkok hopes to induct its first three aircraft by end-2010 and put them into service by January 2011. The remaining three should be in service by April 2011, says the air force. The service has chosen 10 pilots to train in Sweden, and investing 700 million baht to build new hangars and other facilities for the aircraft.

Thailand's armed forces also have requirements for new search and rescue, utility, and attack helicopters. However, these procurements have also been postponed due to the budget cuts. Earlier this year, the air force ordered a third Embraer ERJ-135 regional jet for VIP transport and medical evacuation missions.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/06/30/329002/thailand-to-delay-retirement-of-f-5-fleet.html
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J'avais une question les amis

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C'est un RF-5E de l'armée de l'air Malaysienne, le dône n'a rien à voir avec nos F-5 quel sont ses particularité car il a l'air redoutable comme chasseur celui la Like a Star @ heaven

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les mémes avions sont utlisé par AS et l'Iran, je sais pas beaucoup sur leur capacité, mais beaucoup dise qu'elles sont trop redoutable dans la reconnaissance.
je veux dire une autre chose que le F-5 la plus proche à notre TIII est celle de l'armée de l'air chilienne :
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Fahed64 a écrit:
J'avais une question les amis

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C'est un RF-5E de l'armée de l'air Malaysienne, le dône n'a rien à voir avec nos F-5 quel sont ses particularité car il a l'air redoutable comme chasseur celui la Like a Star @ heaven

tout simplement un avion de reconnaissance,ca emporte des camera sous la nose

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les russes ont testé le F5E Tiger II capturé en vietnam,ils ont ete surpris,contre leur Mig-21,il a presque gagné tous les fights Shocked
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One F-5 was extensively tested by top gun Soviet pilots from Chkalov's State Flight Tests Center (GLIC - Russian acronym). GLIC was established in the 1920s in the arid delta of the Volga River and its tributary Akhtuba and a local counterpart of US Edwards AFB AFFTC or Tonopah Test Range.
In air combats with MiG-21, F-5 did show extremly well, suprprisingly winning almost of all fights according to reports, that gave Soviet aircraft designers a push to develop a new types, like MiG-23.