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Gémini Colonel


messages: 1749 Inscrit le: 09/12/2009 Localisation: Un peu partout!!! Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 
 
 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 12:27 | |
| Euh........ Typhoon pour moi  . |
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rafi General de Division

messages: 7831 Inscrit le: 23/09/2007 Localisation: le monde Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 
 

 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 12:30 | |
| Moi, je vois plutôt le Rafale. Je pense que les indiens ont plus à y gagner, sauf si Dassault a encore fait des siennes.
Dernière édition par rafi le Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 12:33, édité 1 fois |
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Gémini Colonel


messages: 1749 Inscrit le: 09/12/2009 Localisation: Un peu partout!!! Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 
 
 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 12:32 | |
| La France a eu la modernisation des 2000 plus le contrat des Scorpéne,aprés les 2 avions se sont bien comportés en Lybie mais mon eternel pessimisme guette......... |
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Yakuza Administrateur


messages: 17196 Inscrit le: 15/09/2009 Localisation: 511 Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 

 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 13:44 | |
| je crains que cette phrase | Citation: | | After all, the employees of the two contenders are keen to enjoy the holiday season. |
tend vers le EF,comme quoi les francais ont eu bcp de claques derniers temps,on veut pas encore leur bousiller le noel avec une enieme _________________  |
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FAMAS Modérateur


messages: 5629 Inscrit le: 12/09/2009 Localisation: Zone sud Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 

 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 14:04 | |
| ils ne veulent pas d'un chasseur navalisable ?!! |
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Fremo Modérateur


messages: 17157 Inscrit le: 14/02/2009 Localisation: USS Ronald Reagan Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 
 

 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 14:15 | |
| Le Rafale ne peut avoir une place dans un appel d'offre concernant un chasseur pour la Navy ... tout simplement, les projet des PA indiens, portent tous sur des batiment STOBAR et non CATOBAR.
L'Inde a opté pour le Mig29K, et travaille aussi sur un projet de navalisation du Tejas. _________________ La monarchie est le trésor du Maroc, et on a de la chance d'y vivre et appartenir, DIEU merci "non c'è spazio per l'ambiguità e la doppiezza : o cittadino marocchino, o non lo è" Mohammed VI |
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pyromane sergent chef

messages: 270 Inscrit le: 22/06/2011 Localisation: Ailleurs Nationalité: 
 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 14:43 | |
| En plus la poussé du rafale ne lui permettrait jamais de décoller du PA indien. |
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rafi General de Division

messages: 7831 Inscrit le: 23/09/2007 Localisation: le monde Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 
 

 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 15:29 | |
| L'appel d'offre pour la compétition MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) est à l'initiative et ne concerne que l'armée de l'air indienne. |
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MAATAWI Modérateur


messages: 10922 Inscrit le: 07/09/2009 Localisation: Maroc Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 
 
 
 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Lun 19 Déc 2011 - 11:26 | |
| | Citation: | PM to raise Su-30 MKI engine failure with Russia
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is expected to red-flag serviceability, product support and pending upgrade of India's frontline Su-30 MKI multi-role fighter with President Dmitry Medvedev at the annual summit meeting on Friday in Russia.
Top government sources said that Air Headquarters has
While the Indian Air Force is tight-lipped about the issue and would like to play it down, the top brass has conveyed to government that "shaft bearing failures" have occurred in some engines. "In peacetime, the fighter can land on the other engine but this can be a life and death situation in adverse conditions, said a senior official.
India to provide new nuclear reactor site for Russia Sources said that IAF had conveyed to the Russian manufacturer of Su-30 MKI that it needed to make design changes to prevent any future engine failures. However, the manufacturer raised objections to the lubricants used by the IAF in the Su-30 MKI engine. But after it was proved that the engine was still failing despite the use of oil recommended by the manufacturer, the IAF decide to escalate the matter to the government level. Since it was inducted in 1997, Su-30 MKI has performed well with IAF despite three crashes, none of which have been attributed to engine failures.
The other issue of concern is the pending upgrade for Su-30MKI fighters, which have now been in IAF service for over eight years. While the Air Headquarters wants the manufacturer to upgrade avionics and weapon platforms, the matter is stuck not on technical but on the commercial aspects as the original manufacturer is bargaining hard for better price.
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Russia to provide additional 42 Sukhoi fighters to India
Russia will provide an additional 42 Sukhoi frontline fighters to India under an agreement signed today, taking the bilateral defence cooperation to new heights.
With this pact, the total number of acquired or contracted aircraft by India in various stages of manufacture of the frontline SU-30 MKI fighters increases to 272.
The agreement for the upgraded Sukhois was signed by Defence Secretary Shashi Kant Sharma and Russian Federal Service for Military-technical Cooperation Director MA Dmitriev in the presence of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President Dmitry Medvedev after their talks at the 12th annual Indo-Russian Summit at the Kremlin.
The pact, which was among the five agreements initialled between the two countries, came against the backdrop of a crash of an Indian Air Force's Sukhoi-30 near Pune.
The mishap, in which the two pilots ejected safely, raised some technical questions and also led to the grounding of the entire fleet of 120 planes pending investigations.
An Inter-Governmental Agreement (IGA) and a general contract were signed in 2000 for the manufacture of 140 Su-30 MKI aircraft by HAL. A 2007 protocol envisaged manufacture of a further 40 aircraft.
Earlier, 50 Su-30 aircraft were purchased in phases prior to the signing of the IGA and the deliveries started in the late 90s.
The new version is expected to include a new cockpit, an upgraded radar and certain stealth features to avoid radar detection.
Significantly, the upgraded Sukhoi-30 MKIs will be able to carry a heavier weapons load, especially the airborne version of the Brahmos cruise missile. India is also looking to upgrade most of its SU-30 MKIs in the long run.
The first delivery of the upgraded Sukhois is expected in 2014 and the last by 2018.
According to present projections, India plans to phase out 120 MiG 21s by 2017 and with the MMRCA still not a done deal, the SU-30 MKI fleet will be the mainstay.
At their joint press conference, Medvedev said Indo-Russian Military-Technical Cooperation has reached "unprecedented levels" while Prime Minister Singh saidthis has reached 'qualitatively new levels."
| dnaindia_________________ Le Prophéte (saw) a dit: Les Hommes Les meilleurs sont ceux qui sont les plus utiles aux autres  |
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thierrytigerfan Colonel-Major

messages: 2680 Inscrit le: 01/02/2010 Localisation: Bruxelles Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 

 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Lun 19 Déc 2011 - 13:12 | |
| | pyromane a écrit: | | En plus la poussé du rafale ne lui permettrait jamais de décoller du PA indien. |
donc si je te comprend bien le Rafale M serait moins puissant qu'un mig 29 K ?
tu as des chiffres à l'appui de tes dires?
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Gémini Colonel


messages: 1749 Inscrit le: 09/12/2009 Localisation: Un peu partout!!! Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 
 
 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Lun 19 Déc 2011 - 13:21 | |
| Plus de poussée pour moins de rayon d'action ............cruelle dilemne.
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rafi General de Division

messages: 7831 Inscrit le: 23/09/2007 Localisation: le monde Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 
 

 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Lun 19 Déc 2011 - 14:00 | |
| Voici les caractéristiques que publie le constructeur au sujet de son avion, le MiG-29K...
http://www.migavia.ru/eng/military_e/MiG_29_K_KUB_e.htm
Il s'agit donc pour cet avion de 2 Klimov RD-33MK x 9000 kgf (avec réchauffe).
L'info chez le constructeur des moteurs...
http://en.klimov.ru/production/aircraft/RD-33MK
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pyromane sergent chef

messages: 270 Inscrit le: 22/06/2011 Localisation: Ailleurs Nationalité: 
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Fremo Modérateur


messages: 17157 Inscrit le: 14/02/2009 Localisation: USS Ronald Reagan Nationalité:  Médailles de mérite:
 
 

 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Lun 19 Déc 2011 - 20:25 | |
| chose qui permet au Rafale d'avoir une charge utile plus importante que les chasseurs emarqués russes qui sont toujours "light" coté armement. _________________ La monarchie est le trésor du Maroc, et on a de la chance d'y vivre et appartenir, DIEU merci "non c'è spazio per l'ambiguità e la doppiezza : o cittadino marocchino, o non lo è" Mohammed VI |
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pyromane sergent chef

messages: 270 Inscrit le: 22/06/2011 Localisation: Ailleurs Nationalité: 
 | Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Lun 19 Déc 2011 - 20:36 | |
| Je suis d'accord fremo, mais n’empêche que le rafale M est totalement inadapté au PA indien, et a très peu de chance de connaitre l'export un jour. |
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