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MessageSujet: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 16:05

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African Lion rockets into 2013
By Gunnery Sgt. Will Price | Marine Corps Forces Africa | February 05, 2013


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Major James Philpot, Marine Forces Africa lead planner for African Lion 13 and U.S. Army Lt. Col. Gregory Marquez, U.S. Embassy Morocco, OIC, security cooperation, sign the official minutes in the RAF headquarters in Agadir, Morocco, Jan. 30, confirming the planning for the multi-national exercise scheduled for April. AL-13 is a U.S. African Command-sponsored, MFA-led exercise that involves various types of training including command post, live-fire and maneuvering, peace keeping operations, an intelligence capacity building seminar, amphibious operations, aerial refueling/low-level flight training, as well as medical and dental assistance projects. (Photo by Gunnery Sgt. Will Price)




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Moroccan Royal Armed Forces Col. Maj. Brahim Hassani lead planner for African Lion 13 and Col. Roger Garay, AL-13 Task Force commander, sign the official minutes in the RAF headquarters in Agadir, Morocco, Jan. 30, confirming the planning for the multi-national exercise scheduled for April. AL-13 is a U.S. African Command-sponsored, MFA-led exercise that involves various types of training including command post, live-fire and maneuvering, peace keeping operations, an intelligence capacity building seminar, amphibious operations, aerial refueling/low-level flight training, as well as medical and dental assistance projects. (Photo by Gunnery Sgt. Will Price)

AGADIR, Morocco --
Marine Corps Forces Africa conducted the final planning conference for African Lion 13 at the Royal Moroccan Armed Forces southern headquarters facilities in Agadir, Morocco, Jan. 29 – Feb. 1.

AL-13 is a U.S. African Command-sponsored, MFA-led exercise that involves various types of training including command post, live-fire and maneuvering, peace-keeping operations, an intelligence capacity building seminar, amphibious operations, aerial refueling/low-level flight training, as well as medical and dental assistance projects.

In preparation for AL-13, JTF Marines and sailors from 4th Marine Logistics Group, Marine Forces Reserve, in cooperation with teams from U.S. Transportation Command, Marine Forces Africa, and II Marine Expeditionary Force, will conducted a large-scale offload of both a Marine prepositioned ship and a commercial shipping vessel at the Port of Agadir, in early April.

“This is a great opportunity to train reserve Marines and Sailors in executing offload operations,” Lt. Col. Peter Mahoney, officer-in-charge, for AL-13 Port Operations. “Many exercises involving MPF simply offload equipment, stage it, and then re-embark it. For AL-13, we will offload more than 200 vehicles and containers, conduct throughput to locations more 200 miles away, use the equipment, then retrograde and reconstitute the equipment aboard the ship, all within about a 24-day period. Rarely does an MLG get to flex and test its landing support and logistics muscles like this.”

Formerly a bi-lateral exercise between joint U.S. services and the Kingdom of Morocco Royal Armed Forces, African Lion is opening its doors internationally to military representatives from more than 14 different partner nations.

“In keeping with the guidance of General Ham (AFRICOM), the Embassy has invited a host of nations this year to expand African Lion's into a true multi-lateral exercise,” said U.S. Army Maj. Barrett McNabb, U.S. Embassy Rabat liaison officer. “The intent is to invite our partner nations from Europe and Africa to act as observers this year and expand to participation in the years ahead.”

Already the largest exercise for U.S. African Command on the continent and growing, this year Task Force African Lion commander Col. Roger Garay brings back his Marines and sailors from 14th Marine Regiment, out of Fort Worth, Texas, for their unit's third consecutive AL iteration. Col. Maj. Brahim Hassani is the lead planner for more than 900 Royal Moroccan Royal Armed Forces throughout the exercise.

With a wealth of knowledge working with African Lion, both Garay and Hassani, have brought an added dynamic to this year's exercise that plans to 'rocket' the exercise into history.

“Coming back for a third year has created a dynamic of continuity which has enabled us to take African Lion even further than ever,” said Garay. “This year the comfort level of both U.S. and Moroccan leadership has enabled our team to pursue events of greater complexity, namely the introduction of rockets.. The launching of HIMARS will take our U.S./Moroccan team to greater limits in terms of our coordination and interoperability.”

The High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS, is the Marine Corps' premier artillery system, accurately engaging targets over great distances and under all weather conditions. With high volumes of lethal rocket and missile fire, the HIMARS can deliver precise strikes from more than 40 miles away.

More than 1,400 U.S. military personnel will arrive in April joining more than 900 Moroccan RAF in various regions of the Kingdom of Morocco to take part in the annual exercise, designed to improve interoperability and mutual understanding of each nation's military tactics, techniques and procedures.

Members of MFR's 4th Medical Battalion and 4th Dental Bn., will team up with the Utah National Guard Medical Command to provide medical, dental, pediatric and optometry care to thousands of Moroccans throughout the exercise.

“To not only exercise a fully operable trauma capability in a field environment and share medical exchanges with the FAR (Forces Armes Royales),” said U.S. Navy Lt. Cmdr. Jeremy Wilkinson, Task Force AL-13 medical planner, “but be able to give care to so many Moroccan citizens who don't have the ready access to the medical care they may need is a great challenge and honor.”

With the signing of the official minutes by Hassani and Garay, and leadership from the U.S. Embassy and MFA, all the African Lion 13 elements were lined up and ready to conduct the exercise.

“I am very excited to complete our final exercise conference. The Moroccan and U.S. planning has been superb on both sides of the house,” said an exuberant Col. Garay. “I feel like we have been ahead of the power curve the whole way this year in preparation and we are all ready to see African Lion 13 take military exercises with our partner nations to the next level!”

This year's multi-national African Lion 13 and its maritime offload, joint service exercise and HIMARS are scheduled to launch in April.
http://www.marforaf.marines.mil/News/NewsArticleDisplay/tabid/5697/Article/137602/african-lion-rockets-into-2013.aspx
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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 16:37

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“This year the comfort level of both U.S. and Moroccan leadership has enabled our team to pursue events of greater complexity, namely the introduction of rockets.. The launching of HIMARS will take our U.S./Moroccan team to greater limits in terms of our coordination and interoperability.”

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 17:22

interessant,soit ils veulent introduire le HIMARS pour evaluer le AR2 a coté...ou alors le proposer au FAR pour ne pas perdre cet aspect a la chine.

encore plus interessant,ils veulent l´ouvrir a d´autres nations prochainement,ils commenceront en obervateurs avant de passer a la participation,c´est benefique pour nous ca Cool

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 17:29

les emiratis et les jordaniens les ont deja de emme pour le Singapore. Ca serait bien de remplader les BM-21 avec ca


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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 17:32

c´est cette phrase qui me fait reflechir
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The launching of HIMARS will take our U.S./Moroccan team to greater limits in terms of our coordination and interoperability.”
interop en quoi exactement en absence du systeme?rens par drones?

en tout cas ils veulent l´offrir

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 17:59

Yakuza a écrit:
c´est cette phrase qui me fait reflechir
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The launching of HIMARS will take our U.S./Moroccan team to greater limits in terms of our coordination and interoperability.”
interop en quoi exactement en absence du systeme?rens par drones?

en tout cas ils veulent l´offrir


sur ce point j'ai eu la meme analyse que toi

en ce qui concerne les drone ils ont leurs predator sur place non?
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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 18:19

les FAR ne dispose pas de lance-roquette chinois les AR-2 ?

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 18:23

ben si,c´est ce qui pousse les US a attaquer ce segment et faire l´operation de charme comme le dit bien Fahed.

le MBT2000 nous a offert le M1A1,le AR2 nous offrira le HIMARS

restera que l´Apache comme suite logique pour boucler la boucle de Strike integré(F16 - Abrams - HIMARS - Predator - Apache)

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 20:05

c'est pas génant en ce qui concerne l'homogénéité des armes ?

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 20:33

mirage a écrit:
c'est pas génant en ce qui concerne l'homogénéité des armes ?


y'a un tuc qui est genan c'est si on achete tous le materiel stratégique chez les us on risque d'etre un peu dans la m... si ils nous font un sale coup l'em a choisi l'ar2 et c'est pas pour rien a mon avis,mais après si il y a quelque dont comme avec le abrams pourquoi pas n'oubliez pas que l' afghanistan c'est bientot fini


pour en revenir a l'homogenité c'est sur c'est pas top mais n'oubliez pas que il ya de gros probéme quand il y a des quantiter astronomiques d'arme d'origine diverse ce qui n'est pas notre cas .
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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 21:25

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 21:54

espérons qu'il y aura quelque tirs du ATACMS Twisted Evil un tel joujou chez nous donnera des cauchemars aux conquistadors espagnoles

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 22:13

FAMAS, tu sais pas par hasard si le Block IV est disponible à l'export ? Avec 300 km sa en fait un SRBM très intéressant pour.... dissuadé drunken
Si les US souhaite faire une démo c'est pas pour rien, remember la présence des Abrams Twisted Evil

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 22:41

version export ça ne peut pas dépasser 280KM c'est suffisant pour nous même portée pour le SLAM-ER

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Mer 6 Fév 2013 - 23:07

Thanks, wait and see then Smile

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Jeu 7 Fév 2013 - 0:11

Yakuza a écrit:
c´est cette phrase qui me fait reflechir
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The launching of HIMARS will take our U.S./Moroccan team to greater limits in terms of our coordination and interoperability.”
interop en quoi exactement en absence du systeme?rens par drones?

en tout cas ils veulent l´offrir

Counter-battery and artillery inteligence, drone surveillence, interoperatibility of different systems, etc.

la venu du HIMARS me fait penser a des exercises pour le savoir faire pour les MRLS. Le BM-21 n'est pas un AR2. HIMARS pour les far? who knows...mais le saut aux MRLS c'est vrai que c'est a prendre en compte.

rmaf a écrit:
Ca serait bien de remplader les BM-21 avec ca

Toujour avoir un sisteme pas couteux a maintenire et a utiliser c'est, a mon avis, un pilier pour nous, surtout pour la zone sud, ou nous avons un control total, et l'utilisation d'un sistéme de saturation avec un range de 40km et praticment gratuit a utiliser en le comparent au AR2...c'est presque nécessaire, au moins comme artillerie de deusiéme ligne.

FAMAS a écrit:
un tel joujou chez nous donnera des cauchemars aux conquistadors espagnoles

Pire que ça...ils voulait l'acheter mais ils ont pas eu sufisament de l'argent grace aux projets internatiaunaux (A400, EF2000, LEO2E, etc), en avoir des HIMARS veut dire plus que de l'intimidation, mais du "Je comence a voir ce que tu ne peut pas.." ou comme on dit en espagne "hablar de tú a tú"

Le MdD espagnol metrai le crie dans le ciel, garantie...en plus ils ont mit hors service leur MRLS Teruel avant d'en aquerir les HIMARS, maintenant ils ont pas des MRLS en service Evil or Very Mad

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Ven 8 Fév 2013 - 14:19

Les LRM de gros calibre type AR2/MRLS demande des moyens d'acquisitions/transmissions moderne. Un BM21 ou un M109 même sans coordonnées précises le premier tir permettra d'ajuster les suivants. Pas le cas des AR2..
Dans l’hypothèse d'une confrontation avec un pays sérieux, on imagine facilement la difficulté de faire survoler des positions avec un drone de reconnaissance ..il pourrait facilement être abattu. Avec les outils adéquats, comme par exemple l'utilisation de pod type ASTAC sous divers UAV à distance de sécurité* (mieux que sous mirage/économie/ avec une flotte réduite chaque chasseur compte), en effet l'attroupement de n'importe quelle armée aussi discrètement soit t'il génère une pollution électromagnétique, à nous de pouvoir sentir et transformer ces informations en coordonnées GPS exploitable.


*Astac portée de détection jusqu'à 200km

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Ven 8 Fév 2013 - 14:34

le AR-2 utilise le GPS et aussi le GLONASS

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Jeu 14 Fév 2013 - 19:00

preparations a fort sill pour le AL13

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Army welcomes 14th Marines’ Howitzers and HIMARS to Ft. Sill

By Sgt. Ray Lewis | U. S. Marine Corps Forces Reserve | February 14, 2013

FORT SILL, Okla. --

Marines assigned to the 14th Marine Regiment needed a place to conduct a live-fire rehearsal to prepare for African Lion 2013, a multinational exercise in Morocco this April. Some Marines started their drill weekend on a bus in Fort Worth, Texas, while others were flown in from Buckley, AFB, Colo., on KC-130s. They all converged on Ft. Sill, Okla., and made a lot of noise.

Quite a lot of work goes into building the backbone and architecture that supports the exercise, said Col. Roger A. Garay, commanding officer of the 14th Marines, 4th Marine Division, Marine Forces Reserve.

“We wouldn’t be able to pull off the preparation required for African Lion without having access to joint bases like the Army base here at Fort Sill,” Garay said. “They have the expansive range network that helps us to replicate the great distances that we are going to have to command and control in African Lion in Morocco.”

Fort Sill is a 95,000-acre artillery and missile base. The installation also includes Henry Post Army Airfield, a 5,001 foot-long runway, which is ideal for transporting troops back and forth via KC-130 Hercules aircraft, he said.

“They have an airfield here that enables us to work with the wing; to fly a unit from Aurora, Colo., down to Fort Sill, land right here at the base, drop off, go right out to the field, get back on the plane and then fly back up to the airbase,” Garay said. “ A lot of other service installations were involved getting this exercise put together so that we could get the ‘warm start’ in Morocco.”

The Marines used this unique opportunity to increase their proficiency on the M777 Howitzer and High Mobility Artillery Rocket System. This was the first time the artillerymen utilized both weapon systems simultaneously in a mission rehearsal exercise.

“We want to test the combination of the 777’s and the HIMARS, which is a capability that we haven’t seen in the past,” said Sgt. Maj. Ryan C. Willhite, battalion sergeant major for 2nd Battalion, 14th Marines. “This is the rehearsal to prepare the Marines for their mission in Morocco and to show our capability and the precision of both weapons systems.”

The training was a chance for HIMARS and traditional artillery Marines to strengthen their unit cohesion, esprit de corps and become better warriors by carrying out their war-fighting mission, he said.

“Any type of training that we can do before deployment that can keep us mission-ready is always very valuable to me,” said Cpl. Cody R. Richardson, a HIMARS crewman assigned to 2nd Battalion, 14th Marines.

The 14th Marine Regiment will contribute about 600 of the 1,455 personnel who will participate in African Lion. Air, ground and Navy medical personnel from all over the United States, Europe and Africa will also be working in support of African Lion throughout the month of April.

"The Utah National Guard will provide humanitarian civil assistance,” Garay said. “National Guard units throughout the United States are paired with nations around the world, and Utah National Guard is paired with Morocco, so they have a long-standing relationship. As a result of that, they are a big player in this and provide a lot of continuity as a lot of Marine units come and go.”

In addition, the Maritime Prepositioning Force, or MPF, will also participate this year. The program has been employed to support Marine Corps equipment requirements for combat and exercise-needs, such as for exercise African Lion.

“MPF is a national, strategic asset that can be readily deployed to any region of the world, disembark, be used for training, or for contingency operations and then re-embark on the back end,” Garay said.

The Marines see their upcoming deployment to Morocco as an opportunity to enrich their relationship with their overseas allies. It will be a joint-training event that will include several different, disparate training exercises within one exercise, Garay said.

“The evolution will include a field-training exercise, humanitarian and civil affairs efforts, and partner building that enables both sides to work with each other to develop better capabilities, and intelligence building capacity workshops that enable our intelligence community to work with theirs,” he said. “It improves our inter-operations both in personnel, systems and equipment.”

The Marines will also work with Moroccans to do peace-support operations such as riot control to improve their ability to manage complex events involving civilian population in times of internal crisis.

AL-13 is a U.S. African Command-sponsored, MFA-led exercise that involves various types of training that will also include command post, live-fire and maneuver training, amphibious operations, as well as aerial refueling/low-level flight training. Formerly a bi-lateral exercise between joint U.S. services and the Kingdom of Morocco Royal Armed Forces, African Lion is opening its doors internationally to military representatives from more than 14 different partner nations in 2013.
http://www.marforres.marines.mil/MFRNews/NewsArticleDisplay/tabid/7930/Article/138112/army-welcomes-14th-marines-howitzers-and-himars-to-ft-sill.aspx

FORT SILL, Okla. -- Marines assigned to 2nd Battalion, 14th Marine Regiment launch a rocket from a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System here during their Mission Rehearsal Exercise for African Lion 2013. The artillerymen and other troops with 14th Marines, Marine Forces Reserve performed various live-fire battle drills before the unit deploys to AL-13 in Morocco this spring. This will be the first time the unit will demonstrate both HIMARS and M777 Howitzer capabilities for their Moroccan partners. African Lion is an annual multinational exercise executed under the supervision of Marine Forces Africa Command. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Sgt. Ray Lewis/Released) (Photo by Sgt. Ray Lewis)

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Jeu 14 Fév 2013 - 23:55

L'exercice de cette année comportera aussi une composant e air pour l'entraînement avec les pilotes de f 16 marocains. La route pour le red flag commence
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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Jeu 21 Fév 2013 - 2:02



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Cannon crewmembers from Q Battery, 5th Battalion, 14th Marine Regiment, Aurora, Colo. fire a projectile downrange from an M777 howitzer during a live-fire exercise Feb. 8, 2013 on West Range at Fort Sill, Okla. Two artillery batteries and one HIMARS batteries from the 14th Marines joined several support units from across the U.S. to train here for their upcoming deployment to Morocco. The annual African Lion exercise allows U.S. forces to train alongside the Royal Moroccan Armed Forces.

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Cannon crewmembers from Q Battery, 5-14th Regiment, prepare to load an M777 155 mm howitzer for a firing mission on West Range Feb. 8, 2013 at Fort Sill, Okla. The 14th Marines came to Fort Sill to rehearse coordinated fires with two artillery batteries and one HIMARS battery. The training prepared them for their upcoming deployment to Morocco for the annual African Lion exercise

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Lun 4 Mar 2013 - 20:35

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جمعويون يطالبون بإلغاء مناورات "الأسد الإفريقي" العسكرية
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Des associations demandent l'annulation des exercices militaires "African Lion"
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Le Maroc c'est le pays de tous les contrastes. Dans une quelqu'en que democratie ancienne des pareils associations auraient demandé aux authoritées militaires qu'elles tienent en compte les effets naucives de tels exercises sur l'ecosysteme de la zone. Au Maroc c'est l'extreme droite et l'extreme gauche unifié. C'est le "Yankee Go Home"a la sauce marocaine. Pourquoi tous ses efforts pour que le Maroc annule ces exercises? A qui gene ca reelement?
Je crois que je dois finir avec mes lectures conspiratives. Je vois la main des agences secretes partout. A chaque fois que je viellie je deviens plus idiot. Vous croyez pas?
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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Lun 4 Mar 2013 - 21:15

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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Sam 9 Mar 2013 - 17:21

C'est la première fois qu'on publie tant d'articles sur les préparations pour l'AL
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Marines, soldiers, sailors prepare for African Lion 2013

MARINE CORPS BASE CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. - The parade deck outside of 2nd Longshoreman Platoon’s home at Stone Bay, Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune, became a Moroccan port for a short time on the weekend of Feb. 8. Vehicles carrying minor or feigned cargo passed through the gates and, with the help of Marines, soldiers and sailors, navigated checkpoints and obstacles the service members could face in the upcoming US African Command and Morocco annual training exercise, African Lion 2013.

In mid-April when African Lion 2013 comes into full swing, Marines from 2nd Longshoreman Platoon, a reserve platoon with 4th Landing Support Battalion, 4th Marine Logistics Group, along with soldiers 688th Rapid Port Opening Element from Fort Eustis, Virginia, and sailors with Military Sealift Command Expeditionary Port Unit 107 from Raleigh, N.C. are scheduled to work on the Moroccan port to ensure the proper offload gear, equipment and assets needed for mission success.

While the service members from multiple branches typically work side by side during African Lion 2013, this is the first time the dock workers have been briefed or trained together while in the United States.

“This is an opportunity to start working as a team here while practicing what we will need to do (in Morocco),” said Capt. Ania Driscoll, the Inspector-Instructor of 2nd Longshoreman Platoon.

By communicating with the separate branches involved, leaders of the participating units going found many of the tasks they needed to complete complimented each other.

“We’re combining our efforts to facilitate the big picture,” said Driscoll.

Establishing relationships now allowed the service members set up a rapport early in the game.

“We’re breaking the ice before we go to Morocco,” said Navy Lt. John Renderio, a sailor with Military Sealift Command Expeditionary Port Unit 107. “Being able to meet each other before we arrive takes a lot of the learning curve out. We can hit the ground running when we arrive at Morocco. ”

Sailors with Military Sealift Command Expeditionary Port Unit 107 are to act as a liaison between those conducting dock operations and the ship bringing in the cargo.

“We’re their eyes and ears on the pier,” said Chief Petty Officer Ray Kelley, a chief boatswain’s mate with Military Sealift Command Expeditionary Port Unit 107. “We take down the barriers between other branches and the Navy.”

The 688th Rapid Port Opening Element, a part of the Joint Task Force-Port Opening, is seeking validation, a process where the group is graded on joint mission essential tasks, throughout African Lion 13.

The members or 688th Rapid Port Opening Element are experienced with creating a team quickly, as they frequently work with other branches. However, having information early was different for the group that typically handles emergency response and other events requiring swift support.

“We’re used to having information only hours before a mission,” said Army Capt. Joseph Borovicka, the commanding officer of 688th Rapid Port Opening Element. “We move very quickly and open seaports and airports rapidly. This is a luxury.”

While the extra prep time is not something the team needs, it is a welcome aspect of their preparation.

The Marines, sailors and soldiers spent the days learning about their individual roles in the big scheme of the port they will be working on during African Lion 2013 by utilizing a Power Point presentation, diagrams, sand table exercises and by demonstrating through practical application.

The Marines were able to see how their part will function in the overall scheme of port operations during African Lion 2013.

“The aerial view (diagram) and sand tables helped us see the moving parts and gain a greater understanding,” said Lance Cpl. Harold Dilbert-Martinez, an embarkation specialist with 2nd Longshoreman Platoon.

Driscoll expects giving the troops as much information as possible will empower them.

“Junior Marines are thinkers,” said Driscoll. “They have awesome ideas to bring to the table that we don’t always see. Our most junior Marine is still a leader. We want them to go out there with the confidence to get everything done.”

While African Lion 2013 tackles training and humanitarian assistance along with a multitude of other actions the team can rest easy knowing they have a team at the ports prepared for the challenges ahead.

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A Marine with 2nd Longshoreman Platoon discusses his role during port operations for African Lion 2013, an annual training exercise between US African Command and Morocco, while training at Stone Bay, a satellite installation of Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune Feb. 8. While it may look like child’s play the sand box provided the Marines, soldiers and sailors present an opportunity to discuss their role while observing how it fit into the big picture.




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MessageSujet: Re: African Lion 2013   Sam 30 Mar 2013 - 12:26

Bientot le début d'AL 2013 Twisted Evil
Il n'y a pas une date exacte pour le début des exercices Question Je sais que c'est pour début Avril mais aucune date précise .

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