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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 16 Mar 2013 - 18:18 | |
| pas assez de part au Maghreb dans l export armement ...dommage |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 16 Mar 2013 - 21:31 | |
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- pas assez de part au Maghreb dans l export armement ...dommage
L'exportation d'armement de la Turquie se concentre surtout au Moyen-Orient (Les pays du Golfe, Égypte) et l'Asie du Sud-Est (Malaisie). Notre premier client est les Usa, puis les EAU et l'Arabie saoudite.. Les pays du Maghreb achètent surtout chez les fournisseurs traditionnels (France, Russie, Usa, etc..). |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 16 Mar 2013 - 21:54 | |
| y a des marché a prendre, faut pas pensez comme sa ( le Maghreb= marché francais...)
regarde les chinois, ils ont mis les pied dans le plat, et leur matos c est tres bien vendus au Maghreb (fregate, atrillerie pour l algerie, MLRS, chars... pour le maroc)
surtout que vous proposer qui peuvent etre interessant pour les pays du maghreb (helico de combat, vehicule militaire de tout type, radar, vedette et navire de tout type, transfert tech...)
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 16 Mar 2013 - 22:03 | |
| - Alloudi a écrit:
- y a des marché a prendre, faut pas pensez comme sa ( le Maghreb= marché francais...)
regarde les chinois, ils ont mis les pied dans le plat, et leur matos c est tres bien vendus au Maghreb (fregate, atrillerie pour l algerie, MLRS, chars... pour le maroc)
surtout que vous proposer qui peuvent etre interessant pour les pays du maghreb (helico de combat, vehicule militaire de tout type, radar, vedette et navire de tout type, transfert tech...)
On a déjà vendu des blindés à l'Algérie pendant la guerre civile, mais les ventes se limite aux munitions et armes (fusil, pistolet, etc). J'espère qu'on pourra vendre de l'armement aux pays du Maghreb. Dire que les pièces d'artillerie marocaine pendant la bataille des Trois Rois étaient de fabrication ottomane.. |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Lun 18 Mar 2013 - 13:33 | |
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- Top Turkish Firm Develops First Local Friend-or-Foe Gear
ANKARA — Turkey’s largest defense company — Aselsan Elektronik Sanayi ve Ticaret — has successfully developed the country’s first indigenous identification friend-or-foe (IFF) system, and delivered the first prototypes to the Turkish military.
Two prototype electronic systems were delivered to the armed forces last month and mark a “first-time achievement” for Turkey’s local industry, officials and analysts here said. “This puts Turkey into a small list of seven countries that have the capabilities to manufacture IFF systems,” Aselsan CEO Cengiz Ergeneman told reporters.
Aselsan signed a contract with Turkey’s Ministry of National Defense in December 2006 to design, develop and manufacture the prototypes. The contract price for the prototypes is classified.
The company now awaits a fresh contract with the country’s procurement agency, the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries, for serial production. Aselsan officials said a contract could be signed later this year.
The prototypes developed by Aselsan passed a final round of performance tests in November. They will be installed on Turkey’s F-4 fighter jets and air defense radars and, at later stages, other aerial and naval platforms — except F-16 fighter jets.
“The system is entirely indigenous and marks a first time for the Turkish industry,” said Ceyhun Ozguven, an analyst based here. “This is certainly a big leap forward in Turkish military electronics.” A procurement official familiar with the program said the production contract would involve scores of Aselsan IFF systems and could go up to $100 million initially. The number will likely rise as more Turkish platforms queue up to be outfitted.
IFF enables military and national interrogation systems to identify aircraft, vehicles or forces as friendly and to determine their bearing and range from the interrogator. IFF may be used by both military and civilian aircraft. The major military benefits of IFF include preventing “friendly fire.”
Aselsan has developed and produced two IFF prototypes for the Turkish military, both of which are for medium-range coverage. Its transponder IFF systems are to be outfitted on naval and aerial military assets, and the interrogator IFF systems for air defense radars. Aselsan’s two major local subcontractors for the prototype outfitted into an F-4/E 2020 aircraft were privately owned electronics and telecom concern Netas Telekomunikasyon and Bilgem, an information technologies and advanced technological research center of Turkey’s state scientific research institute, TUBITAK.
Aselsan, founded in 1975, is owned by the Turkish Armed Forces Foundation. With more than 4,200 employees, Aselsan operates under four main departments: communication services; defense systems; radar, electronic warfare and intelligence systems; and microelectronics, guidance and electro-optics.
In 2011, Aselsan inked an approximately $1 billion contract to sell low- and medium-altitude air defense systems to the Turkish military. This is the largest single contract awarded to a local company in recent years.
Under that contract, Aselsan is developing all radar, fire control, command-and-control and communications systems for both low- and medium-altitude components of the program. Aselsan also will develop and produce missile heads and data links.
Aselsan’s market value was at $1 billion in 2011, according to independent auditors. It has a backlog of orders worth $4.3 billion until 2018.
In 2011, Aselsan reported 1.5 billion Turkish lira ($880 million) in sales, 160.7 million lira in profits and 83 million lira in exports. http://www.defensenews.com | |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 22 Mar 2013 - 12:12 | |
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- Bets open on Turkey’s first fighter aircraft
Turkish arms manufacturer TAI has signed a technical assistance deal with Swedish Saab to build a fighter jet, but analysts remain skeptical about the feasibility of an indigenous Turkish fighter
It is no secret that Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has been passionate about two “made in Turkey” vehicles: a car and a fighter aircraft. Interestingly, Turkish officials have found one company that builds both and could help Turkey design and develop indigenous models. Talks with Sweden’s Saab for a Turkish fighter jet are inching forward but industry sources and analysts remain skeptical.
Turkish officials have been in talks with Saab (and with Korean Aerospace Industries) to find the best modality for this ambitious project since 2010 and 2011. In August 2011, the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM), signed a deal with Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) to carry out the conceptual design work for fighter and jet trainer aircraft Turkey hopes to build.
In recent months a Turkish delegation, including SSM officials, visited Saab headquarters and production facilities in Sweden. And more recently, TAI and Saab penned a preliminary agreement for technical assistance which will pave the way for a subsequent support deal. As part of the planned agreement, TAI is expected to acquire Saab’s aircraft design tools.
Designing the first ever Turkish fighter, according to defense analysts, is a necessary but not critical step. “What is crucial here is whether this project would enable Turkey to earn capabilities to successfully integrate avionics, electronics and weapon systems into the chosen platform,” a London-based analyst said.
Saab is the maker of the JAS 39 Gripen, a lightweight single-engine multi-role fighter. It was designed to replace the Saab 35 Draken and 37 Viggen in the Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet). Saab has cooperated with other aerospace companies in marketing the aircraft internationally, and has achieved moderate success in Central Europe, South Africa and Southeast Asia. More than 240 Gripens have been delivered or ordered.
In 2010, Sweden awarded Saab a four-year contract to improve the Gripen’s equipment, integrate new weapons, and lower its operating costs. In August, Sweden announced it planned to buy 40 to 60 Gripen NG. The Swedish order followed Switzerland’s decision to buy 22 of the E/F variants.
US dependency on fighters
For its fighter program, dubbed the TF-X, Turkey hopes to copy the modality it had devised to co-produce the T-129 attack helicopters with the Italian-British AgustaWestland. “We think this model has worked successfully and could be a template for our fighter program,” said one aviation official. But defense sources here said the program was exposed to the risk of a prolonged conceptual design and this would make the whole project “not very meaningful.”
“Turkey hopes to fly its national fighter by 2023. This is not a realistic target,” said one source. “If the conceptual design work takes about seven to eight years from now on, the technology on which the design will be based would be too old at the production stage. You may need a time machine to efficiently use the aircraft.”
Major weapons makers are also cautious and skeptical. “We wanted to help Turkey out with its ambitions to design and develop its own fighter jet. But we had to step back when we understood that the technical requirements for the aircraft are far from being realistic,” said a top official from a Western aircraft maker.
Another Western defense executive commented: “We have been working with the Turks for decades. And we fear Turkey may end up keeping an arsenal of second-class weapons systems built at home at exorbitant prices.”
Turkey, whose present fighter fleet is made up of U.S.-made aircraft, also plans to buy the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, a next-generation, multinational program also led by the United States. But Turkish officials say they want to develop another future jet fighter with a country other than the United States to reduce Turkey’s overdependence on Washington. March/20/2013 http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com | |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 22 Mar 2013 - 19:23 | |
| - Yakuza pas si longtemps a écrit:
- encore faut il etre comparable a ces systemes voir mieux car il doit etre avancé de 10 ans
les memes craintes - Citation :
- “Turkey hopes to fly its national fighter by 2023. This is not a realistic target,” said one source. “If the conceptual design work takes about seven to eight years from now on, the technology on which the design will be based would be too old at the production stage. You may need a time machine to efficiently use the aircraft.”
Major weapons makers are also cautious and skeptical. “We wanted to help Turkey out with its ambitions to design and develop its own fighter jet. But we had to step back when we understood that the technical requirements for the aircraft are far from being realistic,” said a top official from a Western aircraft maker.
Another Western defense executive commented: “We have been working with the Turks for decades. And we fear Turkey may end up keeping an arsenal of second-class weapons systems built at home at exorbitant prices.” je crois aussi que ca sera risqué de hater les choses en se fixant une date symbolique,ca finira par produire des trucs bas gamme _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Mer 10 Avr 2013 - 20:46 | |
| Quelques nouvelles.. Le contrat pour la conception d'un drone armé de 5 tonnes signé. TAI veut un avion régional, Embraer serait un bon partenaire.. 13 T-129 livré cette année, 1 par mois. Pas de partenariat avec Saab, juste partenaire consultatif. Le T-129 a donné de bon résultat en Corée du Sud.. - Citation :
- 13 T-129 attack helicopters planned to be delivered this year - ANKA SEI (large weaponized 5tonnes UCAV) contract to be signed soon - There is no cooperation with SAAB on TFX fighter, Saab is only advisory partner in the conceptual design - TAI is looking for partners in the design of a regional passenger plane - Hurkus first flight planned in June, but awaits a 3 year traject of flight certification - T-129 is performing good in all tests of the Korean tender, but chances look low against the US competition |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Lun 22 Avr 2013 - 16:17 | |
| Le programme spatial turc: |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 25 Avr 2013 - 20:15 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 3 Mai 2013 - 13:33 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 3 Mai 2013 - 16:45 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 3 Mai 2013 - 18:41 | |
| Ils remplaceront surement les M-113 et ACV.. |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 3 Mai 2013 - 18:46 | |
| L'Otokar Cobra II: Otokar Ural: Blindé Arma avec les roquettes anti-char LUMTAS: |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 3 Mai 2013 - 22:49 | |
| N'appelons pas roquette ce qui est un missile (ATGM) Ural, Tulpar ... ça vise le marché Asie Centrale, special target pour le Kazakhstan, Otokar va y entrer en force bientôt ... Blason des frères Kazakhs : (Tulpar c'est l'équivalent Turc de Pégase de la mythologie Grecque) _________________ Site perso : http://defense-turque-infos.com/
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 3 Mai 2013 - 23:07 | |
| a3la slamtek! Il était parti faire de la prospection pour l'industrie militaire turque _________________ Sois généreux avec nous, Ô toi Dieu et donne nous la Victoire | |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 3 Mai 2013 - 23:13 | |
| Merci les gars. Autre bonne nouvelle du jour, Otokar va présenter 3 nouvelles tourelles à l'IDEF (qui commence le 07 mai) Les noms ? BOZOK, BASOK et UCOK (Mythologie Turque) - Citation :
- 1989 yılından bu yana kule sistemleri konusunda çalışmalar yürüten, 1990’lı yıllarda “12,7 mmMKT kulesi” ile Türkiye’de tasarlanan ve üretime giren ilk hafif silah kulesini tasarlamış olan Otokar, genişleyen zırhlı araç ailesi ile birlikte 2011 yılından bu yana kule sistemlerine ağırlık vermeye başladı. Otokar kule sistemleri tasarım ve entegrasyon konularında 25 yıla yaklaşan deneyimi ve uzmanlığının bir ürünü olarak, 2011 yılında Mızrak-30’u tanıtmıştı. Otokar bu yıl da 7,62 mm’den 30 mm’ye kadar olan uzaktan kumandalı silah sistemleri BOZOK, BAŞOK VE ÜÇOK’u IDEF fuarında tanıtmaya hazırlanıyor.
http://www.zaman.com.tr/ekonomi_paletli-aracta-disa-bagimliligi-bitirecek-gelisme_2085592.html _________________ Site perso : http://defense-turque-infos.com/
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 4 Mai 2013 - 9:33 | |
| rebienvenue au bercail Inanç _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 4 Mai 2013 - 10:33 | |
| La technologie turque veut faire un bond dans les exportations. Le Moyen-Orient constitue notre deuxième marché après celui des Usa. Les Usa ne seraient pas contre les exportations militaire au Moyen-Orient. Seul deux pays, la France et l'Allemagne commenceraient à redouter cette avancée. |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 4 Mai 2013 - 11:40 | |
| Merci Yakuza (Faut savoir prendre du recul pour mieux revenir parfois). En tout cas, on voit une émergence du groupe Otokar, la gamme présente et future : - 4x4 (Cobra I & Cobra II) - 6x6 (Arma 6x6) - 8x8 (Arma 8x8) - IFV (Tulpar, 1er véhicule chenillé d'Otokar à noter) - MBT (s'ils gagnent le bid pour la serial production) - MRAP (Kale & Kaya) En tout cas, Otokar est bien là pour contrer FNSS sur le marché Turque, ils sont très ambitieux. Avec leur ligne de production au Kazakhstan, ils vont augmenter leur chance de gagner les appels d'offre pour l'armée de Terre, je pense au parc de BMP-1/2 avec le Tulpar . BMC étant quasiment en faillite, Otokar peut reprendre le marché des MRAP en Turquie mais la situation de monopole c'est pas top non plus. _________________ Site perso : http://defense-turque-infos.com/
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 4 Mai 2013 - 11:47 | |
| Je m'attends à une nouvelle commande de Cirit (Roketsan) pour l'IDEF, je vois un pays du Golfe Persique (KSA maybe) _________________ Site perso : http://defense-turque-infos.com/
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 4 Mai 2013 - 12:04 | |
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- Je m'attends à une nouvelle commande de Cirit (Roketsan) pour l'IDEF, je vois un pays du Golfe Persique (KSA maybe)
10 000 Cirit pour les EAU, pour l'Arabie saoudite, je suis optimiste aussi.. P-6 (T-129): |
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 4 Mai 2013 - 12:21 | |
| Y a un hard work de Roketsan dans le GCC (Oman, Qatar, KSA, Bahrein) pour le Cirit : Y a 10 projets en simultané pour le Cirit actuellement (opportunités de vente et d'intégration) Sinon pour l'ouverture de l'IDEF, vol de démo du ATAK _________________ Site perso : http://defense-turque-infos.com/
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| Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Sam 4 Mai 2013 - 12:42 | |
| vous avez l´IDEF cette année on saura alors plus sur le Loramids et le sort du JSF turc _________________ | |
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