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CGI of Chinese H-18 Medium Range Supersonic Stealth Bomber

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Two different Computer-generated imagery (CGI) of the Chinese H-18 medium-range supersonic stealth bomber which will use two high-thrust turbofan engine. H-18 supersonic stealth bomber will have maximum range of about 8000 to 9000 km, maximum combat radius will be around 3500-3700 km, Its top speed will be around Mach 2 and max payload will be 12-15 tons.
http://chinesemilitaryreview.blogspot.fr/2013/11/cgi-of-chinese-h-18-medium-range.html

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Satellite imagery reveals mystery 'supergun' in Chinese desert

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Astrium imagery dated 19 July 2013 shows two objects under testing at an armour and artillery test complex near Baotou, China. (CNES 2013, Distributed Astrium Services/Spot Image S.A/IHS)

Satellite imagery has revealed two unusually large artillery pieces, measuring about 80 ft and 110 ft respectively, at a test centre for armour and artillery northwest of Baotou in China.
The two pieces, which are horizontally mounted, are mounted on a concrete pad that appeared between September 2010 and December 2011, when the two pieces were first captured by satellite imagery. Images provided by Astrium confirmed that the objects were still in place in July 2013.
The 2011 imagery clearly depicts a series of what appear to be targets in front of the 110 ft piece, suggesting some kind of penetration testing for high-velocity projectiles.
China has historically shown interest in large calibre, long-range artillery. It experimented with the Xianfeng 'supergun' in the 1970s as part of Project 640 anti-ballistic missile programme. Approximately 85 ft long, Xianfeng may be the smaller of the two objects retained for experimental use after its cancellation in 1980.
In the 1990s it was revealed that China had built a long-range 'supergun' technology testbed similar to the Iraqi Project Babylon supergun designed by Gerald Bull. IHS Jane's Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defence notes that Bull was heavily involved in designing long-range Chinese artillery systems for Norinco in the 1980s.
The larger Baotou artillery piece outwardly resembles the Project Babylon 'supergun', which was theoretically capable of extreme-range artillery barrages or of targeting orbiting satellites. Bull's 'Baby Babylon' testbed measured 150 ft in length, compared with the 105 ft-long larger piece at Baotou.
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Although the Baotou pieces appear similar in design to the Bull 'supergun' concept, it seems unlikely that they are intended for long-range artillery barrages or anti-satellite operations given China's extensive long-term development of ballistic missiles for both of these missions.
Alternatively, the devices could also be railgun prototypes, although this appears unlikely as there is no significant external power routed to the test pad and a lack of environmental protection. The other possibility is that China is simply reusing the legacy systems from its long-range artillery programmes from the 1970s and 1990s as part of a projectile test range - a view that is supported by the presence of what appears to be 'used' targets on the northwest side of the pad.

http://www.janes.com/article/30056/satellite-imagery-reveals-mystery-supergun-in-chinese-desert
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A Hainan aircraft carrier base says hello to Google Maps


A satellite image provided by Google Maps may have unintentionally revealed the PLA Navy's second carrier base in Yulin, Hainan province, according to the Party-run Global Times.
The satellite image has captured what appears to be a trestle and breakwater structure, indicating that Hainan is potentially set to become China's second carrier base after Qingdao in east China's Shandong province, said military experts. Military figures have neither admitted nor denied inferences to the construction of the base during press conferences.
China has the right to maintain and modify its naval facility in Hainan, Geng Yangsheng, spokesperson of Chinese defense ministry, said in September in a report from Guangzhou's Southern Metropolis Daily. Yang Yujun, another military spokesperson, confirmed that the development of China's aircraft carriers will continue depending on military needs and the available resources provided by the economy and society.

Located in southern China, Hainan serves as a doorway for the PLA Navy into the South China Sea. Yulin can be used as a forward base against any of the countries competing for disputed territories in the South China Sea. As one of China's most important naval bases, the mouth of Yulin harbor is still considered a restricted area.

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Intelligence-stealing Chinese aircraft spotted over Diaoyu waters


China's Tu-154MD electronic reconnaissance aircraft, introduced by Russia, has been spotted for the first time near the air space of the disputed Diaoyu (Senkaku) islands, according to the Tokyo-based Kyodo News.
The aircraft was detected north from the disputed islands, according to Japan's defense ministry. It approached the island chain from the direction of South Korea's Jeju island.
Purchased in the 1990s for government and scheduled commercial flights, between four and six of China's 16 Tu-154M passenger planes were modified with electronic intelligence-gathering systems and a large size synthetic aperture radar after 2003.
Like China's KJ-2000 early warning aircraft, details regarding Tu-154MD's systems are kept top secret by the PLA Air Force. At least four aircraft are currently based in the Nanjing Military Region.
The Tu-154MD will not only be deployed to patrol the skies over China's disputed waters with Japan and South Korea, but the China-India border regions as well, according to the Canada-based Kanwa Information Center. One of the Tu-154MD's primary missions is to steal critical intelligence from US and Japanese forces in the region, said the report.
In addition, China Coast Guard vessels such as the Haijing 2337, Haijing 2112, Haijing 2151 and Haijing 2506 were also sent to patrol Diaoyutai waters on the day the reconnaissance aircraft made its appearance, according to the official website of China's State Oceanic Administration. Chinese officials had warned the Japanese many times that the islands — claimed by China and Taiwan and administered by Japan — are a part of China, and Beijing has the legal right to defend its air space and territorial waters with aircraft and vessels.

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La Russie a livré un lot d'hélicoptères Mi-171E en Chine

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La Russie a livré quatre hélicoptères Mi-171E en Chine dans le cadre d'un contrat signé en 2012 par l'Agence russe d'exportation d'armements (Rosoboronexport) et la société chinoise Poly Technologies, a annoncé le holding "Hélicoptères de Russie".

"Aux termes du contrat, le groupe Hélicoptères de Russie doit livrer 52 hélicoptères Mi-171E à la Chine. Le client a déjà reçu 32 hélicoptères compte tenu du lot livré lundi. Les autres hélicoptères seront remis à la Chine en 2014", a indiqué le holding dans un communiqué.

"Des équipages chinois ont suivi une formation au centre d'entraînement des pilotes de l'usine aéronautique d'Oulan-Oudé. Ils ont appris à piloter les hélicoptères Mi-171E sur un simulateur", ajoute le holding.

Le holding "Hélicoptères de Russie", filiale de la société Oboronprom (membre du groupe Rostec) et la société chinoise Poly Technologies collaborent depuis la signature de leur premier contrat sur la livraison de 32 hélicoptères Mi-171E en 2009. La Russie a réalisé ce contrat en 2011, selon le service de presse.

L'hélicoptère polyvalent Mi-171E (Mi-8AMT) est une version modernisée de l'hélicoptère de transport Mi-17. Il peut transporter des passagers et des frets, être utilisé dans la prospection géologique et la lutte contre les incendies.

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Why Would Russia Sell China Su-35 Fighter Jets?

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Given China’s history of stealing Russian defense technology, Moscow’s thinking is hard to understand.
 
Truthfully, the state of Russia-China ties gives me a headache.
First, I understand the rationale for both sides to develop large agreements for natural resource sales—it’s clearly in both of their national interests. China needs them (having a majority of the imported resource that powers your economy, namely oil, go through narrow straits that could be blockaded is probably not a good plan), Russia wants to sell them (what else does Russia have to sell these days). However, military sales of Moscow’s best equipment, even as a report from the Want China Times suggests is still being negotiated makes little sense, well…at least for Russia that is.
As I have stated on several occasions, Russia has a number of reasons to hold off selling even one of its most capable jets to China. Readers of Flashpoints are familiar with the tale of Russia’s last large jet sale to China, the SU-27. When Russia’s defense industry was on its back in 1992 after the collapse of the Soviet Union, China purchased US$1 billion worth of the then-advanced fighter. Plans were laid for an expansion of the agreement for up to 200 jets to be sold, with large quantities to be assembled in China.  The deal then fell apart after the first 100 or so jets were delivered when Moscow accused Beijing of essentially replicating the jet and prepping it for resale under the renamed J-11 and J-11B. China has allegedly copied at least one other fighter jet of Russian origin, the SU-33, renamed the J-15.

For their part, Chinese officials denied such allegations. According to a piece in the Wall Street Journal back in 2010, Zhang Xinguo, deputy president of AVIC, tried to claim the jets were not a copy.
“You cannot say it’s just a copy,” Zhang declared. “Mobile phones all look similar. But technology is developing very quickly. Even if it looks the same, everything inside cannot be the same.”
In a piece for the People’s Daily, Chinese officials would also defend the J-15, the alleged copy of the SU-33.
Geng Yansheng, a spokesperson for China’s Ministry of National Defense, explained, “The world military affairs have an objective law of development. Many weapons have the same design principle and some command and protection methods are also similar. Therefore, it at least is non-professional to conclude that China copied the aircraft carrier technology of other countries only by simply comparison.”
The deal that is being considered now, at least according to the report mentioned above, sounds similar to the SU-27 sale.  According to WCT, “Beijing sought a promise from Moscow to set up a maintenance center in China as part of the contract” and that “Chinese experts must be able to maintain and repair Su-35 fighters with training provided by Russian advisers.”

Effectively, Russia would be giving up a tremendous amount of technical knowledge and knowhow to China with very little safeguards to stop a repeat of the SU-27 incident. While Russia would gain a large sale for its arms industry, thinking long-term – and recalling the fact that Russia-China relations historically have not exactly been a model of peace and prosperity – Moscow might want to think twice about such an agreement.
For China, there are a number of reasons such a deal would be attractive. China has documented issues producing fighter jet engines, and even the ability to take apart and dissect Russia’s latest military wares would be of use. And for all the talk of 5th generation fighters, America is the only nation so far to deploy such a craft, with various well-documented glitches along the way. A more traditional craft could be of great value to Beijing while it perfects a stealthier fighter for the future. Also, considering the long range of the SU-35, such a plane would be of great value to loiter over disputed territories in the East and South China Sea for extended periods of time. Indeed, if Beijing buys into all the talk about Air-Sea Battle (ASB) being all about deep strikes on the Chinese mainland, an advanced fighter jet to defend the homeland does not seem like a bad investment in the long term.
For Russia, the risks seem obvious. Competing against your own technology in the lucrative arms trade is never a good thing. While a deal today might be profitable, the loss of multiple future deals to cheaper Chinese copies could be a disaster tomorrow.  Also, today’s friendships could give way to tomorrow’s geostrategic challenges. Russia and China’s interests might not always align so closely. It would be a pity if Russia someday were forced to consider squaring off against military technology it sold to Beijing, either directly or against Chinese sales to some future adversary.
There is however one possibility that Russia could be banking on for China to behave this go around: it has the option of cutting off oil supplies if Beijing does not play nice. The question is, considering the fact that a large amount of Russia’s overall budget is backed by oil revenue, even if China decided to make the same choice and again play copycat, would Russia be in a position to make such a move?



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China, Ukraine hold first joint maritime drill

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GULF OF ADEN, November 18 (ChinaMil) -- The guided missile frigate “Hengshui” of the 15th escort taskforce of the Navy of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLAN), which is on an escort mission in the Gulf of Aden and the waters off the Somali coast, held a maritime drill with the guided missile frigate “Hetman Sahaidachnyi” (U130) of the Ukrainian Navy on an escort mission in the same water area on the morning of November 14, local time.
  The joint maritime drill is featured by joint search and rescue as well as boarding and inspection.
  This is the first time for the navies of China and Ukraine to hold a maritime joint drill.
  The maritime joint search and rescue drill was conducted against the background that the escort taskforces of China and Ukraine were to provide humanitarian assistance for a merchant ship of a third country hit by a powerful typhoon.
  The joint search and rescue drill formally kicked off under the command of the guided missile frigate “Hengshui” at 09:30 on the same day.
  On receiving the rescue request signaled by the merchant ship, the two frigates of China and Ukraine gave orders for the ship-borne helicopters to rapidly take off and carry out aircraft-ship joint search and rescue.
  30 minutes later when the ship-borne helicopter from the Chinese guided missile frigate “Hengshui” spotted the dummies simulating drowning victims, the air rescue team immediately salvaged the victims and transported them to the Ukrainian guided missile frigate “Hetman Sahaidachnyi”.
  The boarding and inspection joint drill started at 10:30.
  During the drill, the Chinese and Ukrainian warships simulated in turn the merchant ship suspected of carrying illegal cargo to accept the boarding and inspection of the other side.
  The Ukrainian guided missile frigate “Hetman Sahaidachnyi” simulated the merchant ship first. After the Chinese guided missile frigate “Hengshui” demanded it to accept boarding and inspection, the “merchant ship” stopped and drifted, and the frigate “Hengshui” dispatched a joint inspection team to board the ship and carry out inspection.
  After the inspection was done, the frigate “Hengshui” also simulated the merchant ship to accept boarding and inspection.
  After the drill, Jiang Zhonghua, commander of the Chinese side, and Talasov, commander of the Ukrainian side, met on the Chinese guided missile frigate “Hengshui”.
  During the meeting, both sides expressed that this drill is conducive to deepening the friendship between the two navies. It helps improve the coordination and cooperation between the taskforces of the two countries in escort operations.

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PLA launches fourth Type 052D 'Chinese Aegis' destroyer


China's fourth Type 052D guided-missile destroyer — Chengdu — has been launched by the PLA Navy, reports China's Global Times.

The Type 052D is one of the most powerful naval combat systems in PLA Navy service. A modified version of its predecessor, the Type 052C, the Type 052D adds a new 130mm main gun, equipping it with both sea-to-air and sea-to-land attack capabilities. It also has the Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar system.

The Chengdu is the 10th Chinese surface combat vessel to be referred as the "Chinese Aegis." With AESA radar and a 64-cell vertical launching system, the destroyer is comparable to Arleigh Burke-class destroyers in the US Navy. It also boasts advanced weapons systems such as HQ-9 long-range air defense missiles and DH-10 cruise missiles.

The nation's first Type 052D destroyer — Kunming — has completed a test of its propulsion systems in the East China Sea, according to the report.

China is now capable of deploying between two and three advanced surface combat ships while Japan is limited to one. In addition, China is designing a new Type 055 guided-missile destroyer comparable to the US Zumwalt-class. Equipped with a railgun and HQ-26 surface-to-air missiles, the Type 055 will serve as PLA Navy's main surface combat ship between 2020 and 2030.
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http://french.ruvr.ru/news/2013_11_21/La-Chine-teste-son-nouveau-drone-furtif-3839/

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La tuyère n'est pas apparente pour qualifié ce drone de furtif, de memoire le f117, f22 ne laisse pas apparaitre l'arrière du reacteur, au contraire le flux est conduit afin d'amplifier la deperdition thermique

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a mon avis c´est que le premier proto(001),une tuyere furtive ne devrait arriver qu´avec un autre proto fait pour tester l´engine..normalemement y´a entre 5 a 8 protos selon le degres de sophistication d´un avion.
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Danke cheune yak pour ces precisions,importantes modifs en perspective

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Les Chinois ne font rien a moitié ,ils sont pragmatiques .
je ne serais pas etonné d'ici 5 -10 ans qu'ils n'en fassent pas apponter un sur un de leur porte avions.
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Three J-15 fighters can take off simultaneously from Liaoning carrier

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During its three-week exercise in open seas, Liaoning, China's first aircraft carrier was able to launch three Shenyang J-15 fighters simultaneously from its flight deck according to an article written by Greg Waldron for Flightglobal, a UK-based news and information website related to the aviation and aerospace industries.

Waldron said the Liaoning has a total of three jet blast deflectors. While two parallel deflectors are located immediately forward of the island superstructure, a third is located closer to the stern of the ship. With all three positions fully operational, the aircraft carrier is capable of launching three J-15s from its forward ramp at the same time.

The ability of Liaoning's crew to disassemble and reassemble J-15 jet engines aboard the carrier was tested as well during the three-week test mission. "Jet engine maintenance is a crucial element of maintaining an effective carrier air wing," said Waldron. "US aircraft carriers have extensive facilities for engine maintenance."

However, Waldron pointed out that the PLA Navy Air Force is unable to transfer new fighter engines to the Liaoning through a carrier onboard delivery aircraft like the Northrop Grumman C-2 operated by the US Navy. The Chinese defense ministry did not mention whether Liaoning was able to launch or recover fighters at night.
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China tests first stealth combat drone

China has tested its first stealth combat drone, state media said Friday, citing online photos of an aircraft resembling a shrunken US B2 bomber and hailing the advance toward Western-level technology.
The test flight of the “Sharp Sword” unmanned aircraft is another step in China’s
years-long military build-up, with its defence spending now the second highest in the world and growing by double-digit percentages each year.
It comes weeks after Tokyo said a drone had flown near East China Sea islands claimed by both it and Beijing, ratcheting tensions between the rivals up another notch.
“The successful flight shows the nation has again narrowed the air-power disparity between itself and Western nations,” the China Daily newspaper said, adding the flight made China the “fourth power… capable of putting a stealth drone into the sky”.
Images posted online showed a sleek grey delta-wing aircraft apparently powered by a jet engine and resembling an American combat drone.
Beijing is steadily building its military muscle and unveiled its first stealth fighter, the J-20, in early 2011, though it is not expected to enter service until 2018.
China’s first aircraft carrier — refurbished vessel purchased from Ukraine and named the Liaoning — went into service in Sept 2012, but is not expected to be fully operational for several years.
The Sharp Sword might be intended for eventual use with the aircraft carrier and for “long endurance” surveillance missions, said Rick Fisher, a senior fellow at the US-based think tank International Assessment and Strategy Center.
“This demonstrates the enormous investment that China is making toward building a world class level of military power,” he said in an email.
This type of aircraft “will greatly complicate the defence” of other countries, including Japan and the US, he added.
A drone was at the centre of a recent spat between Beijing and Tokyo, whose dispute over islands known as Diaoyu in Chinese and Senkaku in Japanese has raised concerns of conflict.
An unidentified unmanned aircraft flew near the islands in September, where China routinely conducts maritime patrols, prompting Japan to scramble fighter jets.
The aircraft came from the northwest and returned in that direction, a Japanese defence official said.
Tokyo later threatened to shoot down any such aircraft, a move that Beijing warned would amount to an “act of war”.
Chinese state media widely reported the new aircraft in close detail, although they said the test-flight was first revealed by ordinary Internet users on a popular military web forum cjdby.net.
Chinese authorities quickly censor any news or images exposed online by citizens that they deem sensitive, so it is unlikely they did not approve the reports.
State broadcaster CCTV, citing eyewitnesses, said on its international channel that the test flight lasted 20 minutes on Thursday afternoon in the southwestern city of Chengdu.
The flight “implies that China has made the leap from drones to combat drones”, it said, calling it the move of “major significance”.
Hong Kong-based military expert Andrei Chang said that by producing a heavy combat drone China had achieved a milestone claimed by few countries, but added that the aircraft’s design appeared “a little bit naive”.
Unlike the American version, the engine appeared to be exposed, which would reduce its stealth capabilities, said Chang, editor of the Kanwa Defence Review Monthly, adding that China did not have “enough experience” in the field.
The aircraft was developed by two subsidiaries of Aviation Industry Corp of China, the country’s top aircraft manufacturer, the China Daily said.

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China blasts US panel for ‘Cold War’ thinking


China hit back at the US Thursday over a document that called Beijing’s growing military a threat to Washington’s armed dominance in Asia, accusing its authors of a “Cold War mentality”.
China’s military spending is soaring and the modernisation of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) “is altering the security balance in the Asia-Pacific, challenging decades of US military preeminence in the region”, the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission said in its annual report Wednesday.
Beijing’s foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei told reporters: “We hope this committee can stop this Cold War mentality and do things that can boost mutual trust between China and the US.”
The Washington document said China was “rapidly expanding and diversifying its ability to strike US bases, ships and aircraft” throughout the Asia-Pacific, including areas it could not previously reach, such as the US Pacific territory of Guam.
Quoting the Office of Naval Intelligence, it said that China will probably have 313 to 342 submarines by 2020 — including around 60 that can fire intercontinental ballistic missiles or cruise missiles against ships.
At a regular briefing, Hong said China’s military policy was “defensive in nature” and “within a reasonable range”. Its sole purpose, he added, was “protecting our country”.
“China has always been an important force for peace and development in the Asia-Pacific,” Hong said.
US President Barack Obama has pledged to “pivot” US foreign policy to pay greater attention to Asia in light of the rise of China, which has increasingly tense relations with US allies Japan and the Philippines over territorial disputes.
The commission called on Congress to fund shipbuilding to meet Obama’s goal of stationing 60 percent of US warships in the Asia-Pacific by 2020, up from 50 percent.
The clearest symbol so far of China’s growing naval capabilities is the country’s first aircraft carrier, the refitted Soviet-era vessel Liaoning, which went into service last year.
Song Xue, deputy chief of staff of the PLA navy, said in April that “China will have more than one aircraft carrier”.
The US has 11 aircraft carriers, included the recently christened USS Gerald Ford, though the ship remains under construction amid huge cost overruns and delivery has been postponed until February 2016.

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TAIPEI — What appears to be a crisis in the making, China’s Ministry of National Defense (MOD) has established the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) effective as of 10 a.m. on Nov. 23.
The zone covers the disputed Diaoyu/Senkaku Islets claimed by China, Japan, and Taiwan. The islets are under the administrative control of Japan. China has been flying unmanned aerial vehicles into the area of the islets and Japan has threatened to shoot them down.
China launched two aerial patrols, one Tu-154 and one Y-8, over the area the day of the announcement and Japan deployed two F-15 fighters to intercept.
China’s ADIZ overlaps Japan ADIZ by approximately half, causing concern the overlap could start a war.
The Chinese ADIZ also overlaps Taiwan (Republic of China/ROC). According to a Nov. 24 statement by Taiwan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Taiwan will “adhere to the principles set forth in the East China Sea Peace Initiative [set forth by President Ma Ying-jeou on Aug 5), with the aim of resolving disputes peacefully, while taking appropriate measures to ensure the safety of ROC airspace.” Ma’s five-point peace initiative urges all “parties to refrain from antagonistic actions; not abandon dialogue; observe international law; resolve disputes through peaceful means; and form a mechanism for exploring and developing resources on a cooperative basis.”
US Secretary of State John Kerry issued a statement on Nov. 23 urging China not to impose a “unilateral action” that “constitutes an attempt to change the status quo in the East China Sea.” Further, the US is “deeply concerned” about the announcement and “escalatory action will only increase tensions in the region and create risks of an incident.”
Below is a collection of Chinese MOD press releases since the announcement:
MOD Press Release:
The Ministry of National Defense of the People’s Republic of China, in accordance with the Statement by the Government of the People’s Republic of China on Establishing the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone, now announces the Aircraft Identification Rules for the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone as follows:
First, aircraft flying in the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone must abide by these rules.
Second, aircraft flying in the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone must provide the following means of identification:
1. Flight plan identification. Aircraft flying in the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone should report the flight plans to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People’s Republic of China or the Civil Aviation Administration of China.
2. Radio identification. Aircraft flying in the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone must maintain the two-way radio communications, and respond in a timely and accurate manner to the identification inquiries from the administrative organ of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone or the unit authorized by the organ.
3. Transponder identification. Aircraft flying in the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone, if equipped with the secondary radar transponder, should keep the transponder working throughout the entire course.
4. Logo identification. Aircraft flying in the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone must clearly mark their nationalities and the logo of their registration identification in accordance with related international treaties.
Third, aircraft flying in the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone should follow the instructions of the administrative organ of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone or the unit authorized by the organ. China’s armed forces will adopt defensive emergency measures to respond to aircraft that do not cooperate in the identification or refuse to follow the instructions.
Fourth, the Ministry of National Defense of the People’s Republic of China is the administrative organ of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone.
Fifth, the Ministry of National Defense of the People’s Republic of China is responsible for the explanation of these rules.
Sixth, these rules will come into force at 10 a.m. Nov. 23, 2013.
MOD Press Release:
The zone is being established in accordance with the Law of the People’s Republic of China on National Defense (March 14, 1997), the Law of the People’s Republic of China on Civil Aviation (October 30, 1995) and the Basic Rules on Flight of the People’s Republic of China (July 27, 2001).
The zone includes the airspace within the area enclosed by China’s outer limit of the territorial sea and the following six points: 33º11’N and 121º47’E, 33º11’N and 125º00’E, 31º00’N and 128º20’E, 25º38’N and 125º00’E, 24º45’N and 123º00’E, 26º44’N and 120º58’E.
MOD Q&A
On Nov. 23, China’s Defense Ministry spokesman Yang Yujun took questions from the media on the issue:
Following is the full text released by the MOD:
Q: Why does the Chinese government decide to establish the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone? Is it related to the current situation in the region?
A: Air Defense Identification Zone is an area of air space established by a coastal state beyond its territorial airspace to timely identify, monitor, control and react to aircraft entering this zone with potential air threats. It allows early-warning time and provides air security.
Following the international practice, the Chinese government sets up the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone with the aim of safeguarding state sovereignty, territorial land and air security, and maintaining flight order. This is a necessary measure taken by China in exercising its self-defense right. It is not directed against any specific country or target. It does not affect the freedom of over-flight in the related airspace.
Q: What is the basis for China to establish the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone?
A: The setup of East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone by the Chinese government is not only based on adequate legitimate reference, but also in accordance with current international practice. Since the 1950s, more than 20 countries including some major countries and China’s neighboring countries have successively established Air Defense Identification Zones. Chinese government’s relevant behavior is in line with the UN Charter and other international laws and customs. China’s domestic laws and regulations such as the Law of the PRC on National Defense, the Law of PRC on Civil Aviation and Basic Rules on Flight have also clearly stipulated on the maintenance of territorial land and air security and flight order.
Q: How is the coverage of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone defined? Why is the boundary of the Zone only 130 km away from some country’ territory?
A: The coverage of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone is defined by China’s need for air defense and maintaining flight order.
Actually the easternmost point of the Zone is so close to China that combat aircraft can soon reach China’s territorial airspace from the point. Therefore it is necessary for China to identify any aircraft from this point to assess its intentions and examine its identities so as to allow enough early-warning time for responsive measures in maintaining air security. In addition, some country established Air Defense Identification Zone as early as in 1969. The shortest distance from their zone to the Chinese mainland is also 130 km.
Q: What responding measures will the Chinese side take when foreign aircraft enter the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone?
A: Announcement of the Aircraft Identification Rules for the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone of the People’s Republic of China has made specific rules on the identification of aircraft in related airspace. In the face of air threats and unidentified flying objects coming from the sea, the Chinese side will identify, monitor, control and react depending on different situations. We hope that all parties concerned work actively with the Chinese side to jointly maintain flight safety.
What needs to be specified is that the Chinese side has always respected the freedom of over-flight in accordance with international law. The establishment of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone does not change the legal nature of related airspace. Normal flights by international airliners in the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone will not be affected in any way.
Q: Will China establish other Air Defense Identification Zones?
A: China will establish other Air Defense Identification Zones at the right moment after necessary preparations are completed.

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Russian Helicopters delivers additional Mi-171Es to China
21 November 2013
Oboronprom subsidiary Russian Helicopters has handed over an additional batch of Mil Mi-17E multi-role military transport helicopters under contract to Poly Technologies.

Comprising four helicopters, the latest consignment brings the total number of helicopters delivered to date to by the company to 32.

Around 55 Mi-171E multipurpose helicopters were ordered by Poly Technologies as part of a $660m contract signed with Russian state-arm-exporter Rosoboronexport in July 2012, to help enhance the Chinese People's Liberation Army's (PLA) tactical airlift capabilities.

Manufactured by Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, the Mi-171E is an advanced variant of the Mi-17 medium twin-turbine helicopter, and is specially modified to deliver a high-class performance in mountainous terrain.

Fitted with enhanced VK-2500 engines and Safir auxiliary power plants, modernised transmissions, searchlights, internal fuel tanks and landing seats, the helicopter also features loading ramp and additional sliding door to increase efficiency of transportation tasks.

The Chinese aircrews already learned techniques and rules for piloting the helicopters in different conditions, using the new Russian Center for Scientific and Technical Services Dinamika-built Mi-171 flight simulator at Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant's Helicopter Training Complex.
Primarily intended to provide training on a complete range of flying and navigational skills in all weather conditions, the simulator also train crews on how to respond during aircraft or equipment failure and other emergency situations.

The Mi-171 helicopters are widely operated across China in support of transport, humanitarian assistance, rescue operations and in the aftermath of emergency situations.

An export version of the Mi-8/Mi-17 Hip multi-mission helicopter, the Mi-17 is designed for cargo transport, troop fire support, air-to-surface attack, medical evacuation and combat search and rescue (CSAR) operations.

Delivery of the final batch is scheduled to take place in 2014.


http://www.army-technology.com/news/newsrussian-helicopters-mi-171es-china

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 China maps out its first air defense ID zone


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Japan's remarks on China's air defense identification zone "unacceptable": DM spokesman

 BEIJING, Nov. 24 (Xinhua) -- China's Ministry of National Defense on Sunday called Japan's remarks on the Diaoyu Islands included in the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone "absolutely groundless and unacceptable."
  The ministry's spokesman Yang Yujun said that China had explained its policy stance on the issue in various ways following its announcement of the setup of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone on Saturday, and Japan's remarks are "utterly groundless and China won't accept them."
  Yang made the remarks while responding to questions concerning the Japanese government saying that it couldn't accept the fact that the zone covered the Diaoyu Islands.
  According to Yang, the foreign affairs office under the ministry lodged solemn representations with the Japanese Embassy in China.
  Yang reiterated that China's move aims to safeguard the country's state sovereignty and territorial and airspace safety and ensure the order for flight.
  Yang said the move is a necessary measure for China to effectively exercise the self-defense right and conforms to the Charter of the United Nations and international laws and practices.
  Having established its own air defense identification zone in late 1960s, Japan has no right to make irresponsible remarks on China's setup of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone, Yang said.
  According to Yang, Japan has frequently sent military planes in recent years to track and monitor Chinese military planes which were conducting normal exercises and patrols above the East China Sea in the name of entering its own air defense identification zone, which severely undermined the freedom of over-flight and made safety accidents and unexpected incidents highly likely.
  Yang also accused the Japanese officials of using the media to maliciously report about China's legal and normal flights in an attempt to confound public opinions and create oppositional emotions.
  "Facts have proven that it is Japan who has been creating tense situations," Yang said.
  Yang stressed that the Diaoyu Islands are an inherent part of China's territory, and the country's determination and volition to safeguard its sovereignty over the islands are "unwavering."
  "We strongly require the Japanese side to stop all moves that undermine China's territorial sovereignty as well as irresponsible remarks that misguide international opinions and create regional tensions," Yang said.
  At the same day, Yang also made remarks over U.S. Department of Defence's so-called "concern" over the issue.
  The Foreign Affairs Office of China's Defense Ministry has lodged solemn representations with the military attache of the U.S. Embassy in China Sunday evening, Yang said.
  The establishment of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone by the Chinese government is "totally rational and indisputable," he stressed.
  According to Yang, 20-plus countries, including the United States, have set up their own air defense identification zones since the 1950s.
  "The United States now raised to China blame and even opposition, which is totally groundless," he said.
  "The current situation over the Diaoyu Islands was completely caused by the wrong words and deeds of the Japanese side," he said, adding that the United States "should not choose side" over the issue and "make no more inappropriate remarks or send no wrong signal that may lead to the risky move by Japan."
  "We demand the U.S. side to earnestly respect China's national security,stop making irresponsible remarks for China's setup of the East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone and make concrete efforts for the peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific region," Yang said.

http://eng.mod.gov.cn/DefenseNews/2013-11/25/content_4476236.htm
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A new anti-submarine warfare (ASW) 056 Jiangdao class variant?

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The fifth 056 Jiangdao class launched by Zhonghua shipyard on November 20th is sporting a rather large new arrangement in the back, causing folks to speculate a new ASW variant with VDS is in the work.

http://china-defense.blogspot.fr/2013/11/a-new-anti-submarine-warfare-asw-056.html?spref=tw
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