Exercice African Lion 2010

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Citation :

Commander’s meet to prepare for exercise in Morocco

New Orleans Feburary 06th,2010, - Representatives from 4th Marine Division, 4th Tank Battalion, Marine Forces Africa and the Moroccan military officials met at the 4th Marine Division headquarters Feb. 5-8, to begin preparations for African Lion 2010.

African Lion is a month long combined exercise with the Moroccan military. Marines from the major subordinate commands under Marine Forces Reserve participate in the exercise annually.

Since the first exercise in 2004, African Lion has progressively grown to become the largest combined exercise in Africa, according to Maj. Nebyou Yonas, operations officer, Marine Forces Africa.

This year’s exercise will be unique, because it is the first year that MFR and the Moroccan military held a Master Scenario Event List (MSEL) conference prior to the event. The MSEL conference sets the scenario that will be executed during the exercise.

Everything from the mission statement, to obstacles and challenges the Marines must overcome was planned during the conference.

African Lion 2010 will be conducted from May 10 until June 15, in the country of Morocco.

le scénariot proposer montre clairement une attaque du Polz, d'ailleur il n'y a pas d'attaque aérienne ennemie....

reese a écrit:

FAMAS a écrit:

le scénario suppose que c'est les blindés ennemis qui ont pénetré en "territoire marocain" on ne vas pas assister l'US à irakiser qui que ce soit, mais on montre ce qui attend toute colonne de T90 qui risque de venir parader chez nous, le message est claire
on peut dire sans rougir que nous avons l'armée la plus oppérationnelle qui soit en Maghreb

d apres toi les USA prendraient part aux combats au coté des FAR en cas d hypothétique invasion Algerienne ?

PGM a écrit:

Co-training, simplement. il n'y aura jamais d'intervention US auprès des marocains contre qui que se soit.

si PGM detrompe toi mon ami,l´USA ne chercherait qu une telle "sebba" pour regler le compte a un pays riche en hydrocarbures et qui joue le revolutionnaire encore,l´Africom qui lorgne son flanc sud n´y est pas pour rien ou pour distribuer des jouets seulement,c´est la politique de pression constante.(qui fait peur aux decideurs algeriens)

en mi80s ils avaient envoyé un porte-avion aux cotes de tantan quand la tension montait dans la region,chadli avait bien recu le message 5/5..

pas que le Maroc en aura besoin,mais l´USA fera tout pour y assister,les US envoient un message tres claire dans cet exercice a l´Algerie/polz

FAMAS a écrit:

le scénario suppose que c'est les blindés ennemis qui ont pénetré en "territoire marocain" on ne vas pas assister l'US à irakiser qui que ce soit, mais on montre ce qui attend toute colonne de T90 qui risque de venir parader chez nous, le message est claire
on peut dire sans rougir que nous avons l'armée la plus oppérationnelle qui soit en Maghreb

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J'imagine très mal une colonne de T-90 sans protection antiaérienne avec soutient des forces héliportés ainsi que de l'aviation...
Une longue distance sépare l'Algerie des zones probable de conflit ce qui nécessitera une logistique importante, les chars seront envoyés pour stabiliser une zone et non pas pour l'attaquer.
Concernant les US/Europe il n'est pas dans leurs intérêts que de soutenir le Maroc contre l'Algerie, leurs rôle sera de stopper un éventuel conflit au plus vite.
L'Africom est loin d'être une raison pour soutenir le Maroc ...

C'est plus pour simuler une attaque du polisario ,L'ANP doit comme la dit Dr.Watson mobiliser une logistique importante si il y a une attaque de l'ANP ca sera par la voix des airs problament des SU-24 Fencer le SU30 est pour la defense aerienne de l'algerie ,or l'espace aerien Marocain est bien controlé selon les zones car les Su-24 peuvent s'introduire dans l'espace aerien marocain sans etre detecté en survolant le relief de l'atlas ,sinon une attaque de l'armée de terre est quasi suicidaire

Viper1912 a écrit:

car les Su-24 peuvent s'introduire dans l'espace aerien marocain sans etre detecté en survolant le relief de l'atlas ,sinon une attaque de l'armée de terre est quasi suicidaire

refait les topics concerné, et tu verras que c'est tout à fait......le contraire !

oh quoi que l'ANP a déja fait ce genre de chose à.....Amgala !

..c´est pourquoi elle ne le referra plus jamais

mirage a écrit:

oh quoi que l'ANP a déja fait ce genre de chose à.....Amgala !

Des chars a Amgala ?
A ma connaissance il n'y en a jamais eu...


Il s'agissait d'une garnison d'aide logistique au polisario

Dr.Watson a écrit:

mirage a écrit:

oh quoi que l'ANP a déja fait ce genre de chose à.....Amgala !

Des chars a Amgala ?
A ma connaissance il n'y en a jamais eu...


Il s'agissait d'une garnison d'aide logistique au polisario

Mirage faisait simplement référence à la tentative malheureuse de l'ANP de porter main forte au polzbel doc

Dr.Watson a écrit:

mirage a écrit:

oh quoi que l'ANP a déja fait ce genre de chose à.....Amgala !

Des chars a Amgala ?
A ma connaissance il n'y en a jamais eu...


Il s'agissait d'une garnison d'aide logistique au polisario

Pendant qu'on y est c'était des fleuristes et des scouts algériens de 13ans venus apporter du Thon en boite et des tulipes aux polizbel?
Toutes les hallucinations sont bonne pour expliquer la débâcle!

mere theresa

reese a écrit:

d apres toi les USA prendraient part aux combats au coté des FAR en cas d hypothétique invasion Algerienne ?

Il n'y aura pas d'attaque algérienne! qui voudrait refaire cette connerie?! Envoyer des troupes et du matériel se faire encercler à des centaines de km de chez soi et après... chercher à gauche et à droite quelqu'un qui voudrait bien faire la médiation et libérer les troupes ''sans trop de bruit''

Non non, c'était une erreur monumentale!

Citation :

TAN-TAN, Morocco (June 5, 2010) Secretary of the Navy (SECNAV) the Honorable Ray Mabus addresses Sailors and Marines in Tan-Tan, Morocco. The Marines are participating in an exercise with the Moroccan militaries. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Kevin S. O'Brien/Released)

Citation :

Expeditionary surgical unit supports African Lion in Morocco



6/11/2010 By Maj. Paul Greenberg, Marine Forces Reserve

CAP DRAA TRAINING AREA, Morocco — U.S. Marine Corps and Navy reservists from 4th Medical Battalion, 4th Marine Logistics Group came here in late May to set up a Forward Resuscitative Surgical Suite trauma center as part of exercise African Lion.


This new life-saving capability, which was first employed in its current form in 2003, provides trauma and surgical care to Marines and sailors in an expeditionary environment, both in training and combat.
The battalion is headquartered in San Diego, Calif., but has small units located throughout the United States. The 23 Marines and sailors here for the exercise hail from detachments in 14 states.
Lt. Cdr. Hank Deters, a reservist with a detachment from Company A in Pittsburgh, Pa., is the officer in charge of the FRSS team here.
"Level one care is corpsman care on the battlefield," explained Deters. "Level two trauma care is what we do, the surgical part of it, usually in two tents with a surgical bed, a refrigerator for the blood, a ventilator with an anesthesiologist and other specialized equipment. Level three is a MASH-type unit, or a combat support hospital, which has more advanced equipment like intensive care units, operating rooms and operating beds. It's in a hardened structure. Level four care is a modern hospital outside a combat zone where they have post-surgical care."
Deters is the en-route care nurse on his FRSS team. During his deployment to Iraq from 2007 to 2008, he routinely traveled with patients on the flight from the mobile FRSS unit at forward outposts throughout the country's western Al Anbar Province to level three care at hospitals located at larger U.S. bases.
From the time they arrive at a forward operating base or combat outpost, a FRSS can typically set up their tents and equipment and be ready to receive patients within one hour, according to Deters.
"Some call it meatball surgery or damage control surgery because it isn't a complete surgery," said Deters. "You just do what you have to in order to save the patient's life. The guy is bleeding. We open him up, stop the bleeding, cover it with sterile plastic and transport him to a level three facility. During the Vietnam War and Desert Storm, up to 25 percent of our wounded were dying on the way to the hospital. This (the FRSS) is saving that 25 percent. We're trying to stay within that golden hour, where the patient has to go from initial point of injury to surgical care before they hemorrhage to death."
This is Deters' second time participating in African Lion. In 2006, he flew on a Moroccan helicopter with a Marine injured by a flare during training from Cap Draa to the Tan Tan airfield nearby for evacuation by Lear jet to the U.S. Army hospital in Landstuhl, Germany.
A native of Gardner, Kan., Deters is the captain of a paramedic unit in Kansas City area in his civilian life.
Prior to becoming an officer in the Navy Reserve about ten years ago, Deters was an enlisted corpsman with the 24th Marine Regiment in Kansas City for 15 years, achieving the rank of petty officer 1st class and deploying with the Marines in support of Operation Desert Storm in 1991.
Deters emphasized that his 25 years as a reservist on the Navy-Marine Corps team has helped to shape him both as an individual and as a medical professional.
Cpl. Saundra Rosenbalm from Company A's detachment in Knoxville, Tenn., is an ambulance driver on the FRSS. She moves the patient from the point of injury to the FRSS for treatment. After the surgery, she takes the patient from the FRSS to the pick-up point, usually an expeditionary airfield.
But Rosenbalm is more than just a driver. During surgery, she and the FRSS team's other Marines stand guard over the operating tents. They provide security and ensure that no one, military personnel or otherwise, brings weapons into the operating tents. Additionally, the Marines do a "sweep" of the patients coming in, ensuring that they don't have any ammunition or explosives in their pockets or gear.
"We keep everyone else out so the docs can do their jobs," she said. A personal trainer in Knoxville in her civilian career, this is Rosenbalm's third time deploying to Africa for reserve summer training. She participated in Marine Corps exercises in Senegal 2007 and in Ghana in 2008.
During her down time here, Rosenbalm keeps in top shape by running through the desert to the rocky Atlantic beach front several kilometers away.
"Weather wise, this is definitely my favorite," said Rosenbalm. "Ghana and Senegal were about 130 (degrees Fahrenheit) every day. This weather is more like home."
Rosenbalm spends most of her work days here transporting patients and guarding the FRSS during simulated casualty drills and driving out to live-fire ranges in order to be in position to evacuate troops in case of injury.
"This is definitely the best exercise I've been on in terms of training," said Rosenbalm. "All the units are busy, and everyone seems to be getting something out of the exercise."
Petty Officer 2nd Class Kenneth Justice is team leader for the first medical team on the FRSS. The first medical team receives the patients in the "pre-op" tent and prepares them for surgery. His team does triage, stabilizes airways and controls major bleeding with tourniquets and pressure bandages.
"Their job is important, because they have to decide which patents come back into the operating tent," said Cdr. Jonathan Kuehne, a reserve FRSS surgeon from San Diego, Calif. "If they send back a patient who isn't a first-priority case, you have three doctors tied up here when we could be out front doing triage or back here treating more seriously injured patients with acute hemorrhaging or airway blockages."
After surgery, the patients return to the first medical team's tent for post-operation care.
"We see patients when they come out of surgery and prep them for medevac," said Justice. "We 'package' the patients by securing all medical devices such as (intravenous) bags and oxygen tanks. We wrap them like a tamale in a flight blanket and get them ready to put on the helicopter or tactical ambulance."
A hospital corpsman and advanced laboratory technician with a total of 16 years active and reserve time in the Navy, Justice attends weekend reserve drills with Company K, 3rd Battalion, 23rd Marine Regiment in Memphis, Tenn.
"It's been an incredible experience here in Morocco," said Justice. "We get to take the skills we learn in theory and put them into practical application. Here we actually get to live and work in real combat-like conditions. We're in an encampment overseas, sleeping in tents in an environment like Iraq or Afghanistan, eating MREs, using field showers, sleeping on the ground, and working with rapid put up and rapid break down of the equipment. You can't get an experience like that back at the drill center, or from an on-line course."
In his civilian career, Justice is a field service engineer for a biomedical and diagnostics company. He typically drives more than a thousand miles a week to service equipment in the Mississippi Valley region. Sometimes his company sends parts from their headquarters in California and Florida to Justice's home in Memphis for him to service and repair.
But for one month each summer, he puts his career aside, says good-bye to his family, and goes off to serve with Marine Corps Reserve units for their annual training exercises.
"I do it for the sailors and Marines," said Justice, who earned his Fleet Marine Force Warfare Qualification in 2007. "My senior officers and my junior corpsmen are professionals who put their lives on hold and come out here and do outstanding jobs," said Justice. "These are good people, dedicated people, and they are definitely worth their weight in gold."
The FRSS had the chance to perform an actual surgery on a Marine who had an abscess on his sacrum here June 4. The surgeons made an incision and drained the abscess in their surgical tent. After several days of recovery, the reservist returned to full duty here and was able to continue training with his unit.
The reserve Marines and sailors of the FRSS team here are scheduled to head back to the States in mid-June, when exercise African Lion comes to a close. Throughout the year they will continue to train with their units one weekend a month.
Some members of the FRSS will be back here next year for African Lion 2011. Some will participate in different theater security cooperation operations in Africa, Asia or South America instead.
Regardless of where they go, the Marines and sailors of the FRSS can have pride in knowing that they are members of an elite team of medical professionals who bring a unique life-saving capability to the Armed Forces of the United States and their allies in expeditionary environments throughout the world.

Nous avons tous vu comment les missiles AC russes ont fait du mal aux tanks de tsahal ( l'un des meilleurs au monde, bien devant le T-90 dans tous les domaines) le fait que les FAR ont en dotation en nombre ce genre de missile me fait plaisirs.

La logistique au port d´Agadir



avant meme que l´AL 2010 commence,les reflexions sur l´African Lion 11 ont commencé,et les premieres grandes lignes sont deja programmés.
entre autres,la composante amphibie qui verra pour la premiere fois sur le continent africain,une mission JLOTs(Joint-Logistics-Over-The-Shore).
ca veut dire qu´au lieu de tout debarquer par Agadir,toute une armada debarquera directement sur le camp de training de Draa,a l´aide de ports flottants

Citation :

Next year, 839th will again support African Lion,but in this case they’ll be supporting a JLOTs mission leveraging JTF-PO SPOD Rapid Port Opening Element (RPOE) capabilities, while 839th serves as the single port manager for the mission. An operational first on the African Continent and indicative of SDDC’s expanding operational role as a multi-dimensional strategic enabler!

grande ...ca promet des tofs a remplire le forum..et les notres ? est ce qu'ils y seront dans la fete ?

J'ai tjrs pensée que le point fort de l'US army était sa logistique, des moyens vraiment impressionnant

Africain Lion dépassera le niveau du Bright Star en Egypte

gigg00 a écrit:

et les notres ? est ce qu'ils y seront dans la fete ?

ils vont encourager

Ou faire a manger

Avez vous eu des échos sur ces exercies ??
Comment se sont comporté les Pattons par rapport aux Abrams ?
Y'a t'il eu des tirs de Kornet et Metis ?

oui le Kornet a ouvert le bal,tu peux lire le recit ici
https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/contrats-d-achats-et-autres-f20/exercice-african-lion-2010-t2796-30.htm#110301

C'était un exercice sur tout les plans logistique infanterie blindée missile AC force héliporté par contre l'artillerie n'a pas été mise en oeuvre apparament.
Je ne comprends pas la différence entre les gars en uniforme vert et ceux en uniforme desert ?
En vert ce sont les officiers ?