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 | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco  Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 18:19 | |
| may be le notre.. - Citation :
- GD’s Defense Issues Don’t Suggest Strong Read Throughs, But Some Trails to Pursue
27 January 2014
The most surprising earnings call this past week from a DC defense perspective was General Dynamics, particularly management expectations for Combat Systems and IS&T.We expect the President’s State of the Union address on Jan. 28 will be a non-event for defense stocks. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is holding a Jan 29 hearing on “Current and Projected National Security Threats Against the United States” .
For Combat Systems, GD management guidance was for a 4%-4.5% revenue decline in 2014. Embedded in that guidance is an international contract to be booked in Q1 for resulting in $1.2 billion in 2014 sales, So excluding that contract, the rest of Combat Systems revenues decline 24% which follows a 23% fall in 2013.
Management has been mum on who the customer is for this order that results in $1.2 billion of sales but it could be either from Morocco for 200 M1A1 Abrams (Congress was notified of this sale in June 2012) or possibly Saudi Arabia.
The Morocco sale involves transfer of tanks considered Excess Defense Articles but which are upgraded to an SA configuration. In the June 2012 notification by DoD's DSCA (Defense Security Cooperation Agency) to Congress, a $1.105 billion value was assigned to the deal.As for Saudi Arabia, that country has a potential buy of up to 270 M1 tanks to re-equip one of its armored brigades. The interest in M1s emerged following reports last spring of collapse of a deal for the Kingdom to buy Leopard 2 tanks from Germany's Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (which is closely held). capalphadc.com _________________  | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 18:33 | |
| C'est sur même que il parle de nous non ? parce que le montant du contrat est de 1.2 billion , 270 M1 saoud neufs coûte plus que cette somme logiquement . | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 18:38 | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 18:45 | |
| Si c'est les notre , ça veut dire que le contrat a été confirmé et accepté Yakuza !!! | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 18:48 | |
| je pense que c'est les nôtres Yak  _________________  | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 18:55 | |
| Olala quelle journée FREMM + M1A1 je vais faire une crise  Mdr bon calmos calmos J'en suis sur c'est les notre , le montant du contrat ressemble étrangement a celui de nos M1, 270 M1 des saoudiens dépassent largement ce montant , et il n'y a que nous et les Saouds comme possible acquéreur de M1 sur le marché , corrigez moi si je me trompe . Bref ils arrivent Inchallah . Allez hop je fait passer l'info sur les autres forums  | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 19:39 | |
| 270 Abrams new ne coutent pas 1.200 millions  Ce sont les notres  Je parie mon doigt a le "yakuza"  |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 19:52 | |
|  rmaf . C'est des M1 prit dans l’énorme surplus de l'US army, mit au format Situational awareness , en gros remise a zéro du compteur , remise quasi neuf , avec plein d'ajout de petit joujou technologique Chouf du lourd - Citation :
- - M1A1 AIM (Abrams Integrated Management): A program whereby older units are reconditioned to zero hour conditions;[73] and the tank is improved by adding Forward-Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) and Far Target Locate sensors, a tank-infantry phone, communications gear, including FBCB2 and Blue Force Tracking, to aid in crew situational awareness, and a thermal sight for the .50 caliber machine gun. General Dynamics has been awarded contracts by the U.S. Army to supply this variant.
- M1A1 SA (Situational Awareness): Upgrades similar to AIM tanks + new 3rd generation depleted uranium armor components. http://www.armyrecognition.com/united_states_army_heavy_armoured_vehicles_tank_uk/m1a1_sa_situational_awareness_main_battle_tank_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures_video.html | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 19:55 | |
| - rmaf a écrit:
- On fabrique plus le M1
si je pense - Yakuza a écrit:
- ca bouge je crois
- limaohio a écrit:
- Portman pitches Lima-built tanks to Morocco
Posted: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:27 pm | Updated: 6:06 pm, Wed Jun 19, 2013.
WASHINGTON - U.S. Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, met with the Moroccan ambassador to the United States Rachad Bouhlal on Wednesday to discuss the potential purchase of Lima-built M1A1 tanks to the Moroccan Armed Forces.
Portman urged Morocco to replace its aging tank fleet with vehicles from the Joint Systems Manufacturing Center.
"I am pleased that the Moroccan government is looking to further build upon this relationship by procuring the Ohio-built Abrams tank," Portman said in a press release. "Ambassador Bouhlal and I had a good discussion, and he was particularly impressed by the reputation of Ohio's advanced manufacturing."
The Defense Department previously asked to mothball the Lima production facility from 2014 to 2017 because officials believe they have enough tanks and want to save money. The plant is trying to remain operational with its current 500 employees by relying on foreign sales.
Portman also announced he sent a letter to the Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, asking to qualify Lima for assistance through the Office of Economic Adjustment Defense Industry Adjustment Program. The program helps workforces in communities affected by changes in Defense Department decisions.
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- June 19, 2013
Portman Continues Fight For Lima Tank Plant & Workers
Meets with Moroccan Ambassador to U.S. and Urges Consideration of Lima for Assistance through Defense Industry Adjustment Program
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Rob Portman (R-Ohio) today met with Moroccan Ambassador to the United States Rachad Bouhlal to discuss the potential M1A1 Abrams tank sale to the Moroccan Armed Forces. The vehicles would replace Morocco’s aging tank fleet and also provide additional production to the Joint Systems Manufacturing Center (JSMC) and the Abrams tank industrial base throughout the country. Foreign Military Sales are a critical component to maintaining sufficient Abrams production levels until the U.S. Army expects to begin ramping back up Abrams production.
“The United States and Morocco both benefit from a strong economic, political, and military relationship, and I am committed to strengthening this alliance,” said Portman. “I am pleased that the Moroccan government is looking to further build upon this relationship by procuring the Ohio-built Abrams tank. Ambassador Bouhlal and I had a good discussion and he was particularly impressed by the reputation of Ohio’s advanced manufacturing. I remain concerned with the Army’s plan to rely solely on these foreign sales, but I’ll continue doing what I can to help with this process. It’s important for us and our allies.” U.S. Sen. Rob Portman, left, met with Moroccan Ambassador Rachad Bouhlal on Wednesday to discuss the purchase of M1A1 Abrams tanks from Lima's Joint Systems Manufacturing Center.
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 19:58 | |
| - rmaf a écrit:
- On fabrique plus le M1
Les iraquiens les ont eu new de fabrique, pas transferés des stocks de l'USArmy  Et les egyptiens les montent toujours avec les kits envoyés (New). tu crois que si les Sauds le payent ils n'auront pas des Km 0? Bref...si tu veut, refourbishment+upgrade, et on sait tus qu'ils prennet pas de M1A1AIM/SA/etc. mais des M1A2. 270 ne vont pas couter pas 1.200 millions. Le dernier (2006) ça leur a couté 2.900 millions pour seulment upgrade du stock saudien plus achat de qulques unités new. Cheers |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 20:17 | |
| Les saouds sont au A2
S.A pour spécial armor et non situation awareness Marokino.
Mia flemia dialna. La notification initiale c'était 200 M1 SA pour 1mds $. mais c'était il y a 3/4 ans. Ça doit donc toujours être pour 200 pièces + munitions+ soutien et certainement du matos pour nouaceur. | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 20:26 | |
| Zaama PGM c'est sur pour le spécial armor ? J'ai chercher sur internet j'ai rien trouver de clair sur ce spécial armor , par contre le format situational awareness c'est très clair . J'aimerais bien avoir plus d'infos sur le spécial armor | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 20:28 | |
| - marokino78000 a écrit:
- Zaama PGM c'est sur pour le spécial armor ? J'ai chercher sur internet j'ai rien trouver de clair sur ce spécial armor , par contre le format situational awareness c'est très clair . J'aimerais bien avoir plus d'infos sur le spécial armor
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 20:30 | |
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- The Government of the Kingdom of Morocco has requested a possible enhancement and refurbishment of 200 M1A1 Abrams tanks, provided as part of a grant Excess Defense Article (EDA) transfer notified to Congress on 27 April 2011, to the M1A1 Special Armor (SA) configuration.
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 20:35 | |
| - marokino78000 a écrit:
- Zaama PGM c'est sur pour le spécial armor ? J'ai chercher sur internet j'ai rien trouver de clair sur ce spécial armor , par contre le format situational awareness c'est très clair . J'aimerais bien avoir plus d'infos sur le spécial armor
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- The Government of the Kingdom of Morocco has requested a possible enhancement and refurbishment of 200 M1A1 Abrams tanks, provided as part of a grant Excess Defense Article (EDA) transfer notified to Congress on 27 April 2011, to the M1A1 Special Armor (SA) configuration.
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 20:47 | |
| Mais quels sont les caractéristiques de ce Spécial armor ?? C'est plus avancé que le situational aw awareness ? Parce que moi les Situational awareness me paraissent parfait pour nous | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 21:07 | |
| notre SA est une version entre le AIM et le HA/HC,un compromis entre le tech et le heavy armor _________________ | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 21:48 | |
| Merci Yakuza. Je crois bien que se sont les notres. -- Au sinon l'essentiel c'est les obus sabot et heat mais surtout le chobham. Apres c'est inutile de joué avec les nom (SA, HA, AIM...) c'est de la prise de tête pour rien.  _________________  الله الوطن الملك | |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 30 Jan 2014 - 22:12 | |
| - Northrop a écrit:
- Au sinon l'essentiel c'est les obus sabot et heat mais surtout le chobham.
Apres c'est inutile de joué avec les nom (SA, HA, AIM...) c'est de la prise de tête pour rien. Il n'y a que le Chobham qui est secret - Citation :
- b. The M1A1 Tank Special Armor and other special armors used in the hull and turret are classified at the Secret level. Major components of Special Armor are fabricated in sealed modules and in serialized removable subassemblies. Special Armor components and associated vulnerability data for both chemical and kinetic energy rounds are classified Secret.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-06-29/html/2012-15988.htm L'important c'est le DU/titanium... - Yakuza a écrit:
- notre SA est une version entre le AIM et le HA/HC,un compromis entre le tech et le heavy armor
Ton mix s'appelle M1A1AIM ou M1A1 Situational Awareness (AIM avec DU 3rd GEN) HA c'est 1st GEN DU, AIM(v)2/SA c'est 3rd GEN DU, it's not the same thing man... Foudrait savoir si c'est une nouvelle configuration structurelle conçu pour nous...va savoir... Cheers  |
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Sam 1 Fév 2014 - 19:05 | |
| There is nothing new just the date of this article quite rescent: 6th Jan. As usual with all Moroccan army purchases I still puzzled with the possible final outcome. Normally the upgrade should've been AIM Situational Awareness (SA) but the FAR are tailoring the upgrade to something that just them know and the SA now stands for Special Armor instead of Situational Awareness. I'm even gathering if Americans would one day understand Moroccans request. However after how the FAR negotiated the F16 deal I'm pretty sure that the Moroccan Abrams will be a monster. - Citation :
- M1A1 SA Situational Awareness main battle tank
Description
The Abrams Tank Upgrade includes two powerful variants, the M1A1 SA (Situational Awareness) and the M1A2 SEP (System Enhancement Program) version 2. The M1A1 SA is an upgrade version of the basic M1A1 model with the goal to produce older units to zero hour conditions. The M1A1 SA tanks will be configured with additional mission-critical technologies to bolster crew situational awareness (SA). This situational awareness package increases the M1A1 Abrams tank's fighting capability by providing soldiers with an electronic graphic of the battlefield with icons for friendly and enemy forces. In March 2009, the TACOM LCMC awarded a $33m contract to GDLS for long-lead materials to produce 140 M1A1 SA (situational awareness) tanks for the Iraq programme. In June 2012, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency of United States notified Congress today of a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of the Kingdom of Morocco for enhancement and refurbishment of 200 M1A1 Abrams tanks and associated parts, equipment, logistical support and training for an estimated cost of $1.015 billion. The Government of the Kingdom of Morocco has requested a possible enhancement and refurbishment of 200 M1A1 Abrams tanks, provided as part of a grant Excess Defense Article (EDA) transfer notified to Congress on 27 April 2011, to the M1A1 Special Armor (SA) configuration.
Specifications
Armament
One 120 mm M256 Smooth Bore Cannon, one coaxial 7.62mm MAG58 machine gun, one 7.62mm machine gun for loader hatch, one 12.7mm machine gun
Country users
United States, Australia, Morocco, Iraq
Designer Country
United States
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NBC protection system, IR night vision, battle mangement system, computerized fire control.
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4 (Commander, Gunner, Loader, Driver).
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Chobham armour + new 3rd generation depleted uranium armor components.
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Main Variants:
- M1: First production variant. Production began (at Chrysler) in 1979 and continued to 1985 (at General Dynamics) (3,273 built for the US). The first 110 tanks were Low Rate Initial Production (LRIP) models, still called XM1s, because they were built prior to the tank being type-classified as the M1.
- M1A1: Production started in 1985 and continued to 1992, pressurized NBC system, rear bustle rack for improved stowage of supplies and crew belongings, redesigned blow-off panels and M256 120 mm smoothbore cannon (4,976 built for the U.S. Army, 221 for USMC, 755 for Egypt, 59 M1A1 AIM SA sold to Australia).
- M1A1 AIM (Abrams Integrated Management): A program whereby older units are reconditioned to zero hour conditions;[73] and the tank is improved by adding Forward-Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) and Far Target Locate sensors, a tank-infantry phone, communications gear, including FBCB2 and Blue Force Tracking, to aid in crew situational awareness, and a thermal sight for the .50 caliber machine gun. General Dynamics has been awarded contracts by the U.S. Army to supply this variant.
- M1A1 SA (Situational Awareness): Upgrades similar to AIM tanks + new 3rd generation depleted uranium armor components.
- M1A2: Production began in 1992 (77 built for the US and more than 600 M1s upgraded to M1A2, 315 for Saudi Arabia, 218 for Kuwait). The M1A2 offers the tank commander an independent thermal sight and ability to, in rapid sequence, shoot at two targets without the need to acquire each one sequentially, also 2nd generation depleted uranium armor component.
- M1A2 SEP (System Enhancement Package): Has upgraded 3rd generation depleted uranium armor components with graphite coating (240 new built, 300 M1A2s upgraded to M1A2SEP for the USA, also unknown numbers of upgraded basic M1s and M1IPs, also 400 oldest M1A1s upgraded to M1A2SEP).
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Dim 8 Fév 2015 - 4:12 | |
| Ce contrat joue avec nos nerfs depuis un bon bout de temps  visite par ci visite par la awedi zerbouna - Citation :
- Tank plant manager announces retirement
Nov 20, 2014 6:01 AM
Abrams work will ramp back up in 2016 and production of the Israeli Stryker and the Egyptian Nameer will remain steady. Deters says representatives from Israel and Oman recently toured the facility and officials from Morocco are interested in the plant's products.
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| | Sujet: Re: 222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco Jeu 12 Fév 2015 - 11:27 | |
| Le dernier DSI (numéro 111) évoque nos M1. Article intéressant sur les différentes versions acquises par l'Égypte, KSA et Koweït. L'article évoque un déploiement en région centre/est ou la ceinture. | |
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