missiles russes

article interessant sur les nouveautés russes durant MAKS
comme ca,on apprend que:

ils developpent des versions internes des RVV-MD et -SD pour carriage interne du pak-fa,et des missiles ASM/ARM pour aussi.
le nouveau missiles long-range RVV-BD de 200km,peut etre acquis mais seulement avec achat SU35 ou Mig31. (# 8G)
que le missile medium range RVV-SD de 110km attend tjs encore un client export..
que les russes ont des difficultés avec les Ramjet,donc ils laissent tomber cette piste..
on apprend aussi qu´Agat est en developement de tetes duals passif/actif et s-actif/actif,mais l´utilité reste a prouver
last but not least(ce que j´avais deja signalé lors d´une discussion),la dependance envers la micro-electronique occidentale,ce qui ne les rend pas completement independants(quand on disait ca,c ´etait pas russian bashing mais la verité)

on lit que la NEZ du RVV-SD est de 13km pour cible avec RCS de 5m² donc inférieure à 10km pour un F16 (RCS ~1m²)
two stage motor vraiment pathétique comme solution de rechange face aux ramjet comme METEOR / AIM120D
la manoeuvrabilité laissera à désirer sans doute, je ne sais pas pourquoi les russes donnent toujours des portées sans préciser la rcs de la Target, les 110km ça doit être contre un Tanker non pas un chasseur

Kh-59MK2



The Kh-59MK2 guided air-launched missile is intended to kill a variety of pin-pointed stationary ground targets, including targets with no radar, IR and optical background contrast. The missile operates on "launch-and-forget" principle and demonstrates high guidance accuracy due to autonomous terrain recognition in the target area. Low-level goal flight pattern of the missile is programmed in the flying mission. To provide the possibility of guidance on different targets, one or more missions can be loaded into the guidance system of the missile.
The Kh-59MK2 missile can operate over any terrain, in any season in lighting environments of 10-3 – 105 lx.
The missile can be operated with carrier-aircraft equipped with AKU-58-type aerial ejection system.

Max launch range - 285 km
Launch altitude range - 0.2 – 11 km
Flight altitude - 50 – 300 m
Flight speed - 900 – 1050 km/h
Target aspect angle at missile launch - up to ± 45º
Launch weight - up to 930 kg
Length - 5.7 m
Wingspan - 1.3 m
Circular error probability (ECEP) - 3 - 5m


Kh-59ME

The Ovod-ME airborne missile system with Kh-59ME missile is designed to engage ground and surface targets visually observed by operator in fair weather conditions. The system employs the Kh-59E airborne missile in the APK-9ME suspension pod. The missile is equipped with a navigation and automatic control system, as well as a TV/command guidance system ensuring high engagement precision of up to 2-3 metres (in manual mode). Operator can re-target the missile on its flight trajectory.



Basic Specifications

Max launch range- 115km

Missile carrier launch altitude- 200 – 1,500m

Missile carrier speed, 600 – 1,100km/h

Missile cruising flight altitudes, m -7 (over sea); 50; 100; 200; 600; 1,000

Missile cruising speed, Mach number : 0.72 – 0.88

Warhead types penetrating/cluster

Penetrating/cluster warhead weight- 320/280 kg

Missile dimensions, m:
-length 5.7 m
-inner wing span 1.3m
-body diameter 0.38m

Kh-29TE / Kh-29L



The Kh-29L / Kh-29TE air-to-surface missiles are intended for engagement of visually observed hardened ground and surface targets, such as big railway and highway bridges, industrial installations, concrete runways, aircraft in reinforced concrete shelters, surface vessels displacing up to 10,000 tons.
The missiles are the weapons for multi-role fighters and attack aircraft.
The Kh-29TE missile features passive TV guidance, and the Kh-29L – semi-active laser guidance by a reflected laser illumination spot. The missiles are fitted with a high explosive penetrating warhead and an impact target sensor. They are powered by a fixed-thrust solid-fuel rocket engine.

Source : ktrv.ru

Spoiler:

Yakuza a écrit:

si tu parle de la source qui cite "classe de 100km",je crois qu´ils parlent en general de la plage/moyenne de cette categorie de missile qui varie entre 80km comme le Mica/R77 et 110/120km pour l´AMRAAM, le 100km etant un peu la moyenne.
les US par exemple disent beyond + et te laisse avec une imagination ouverte,quand ils limitent ca dit up to.
pour moi c´est entre 60 et 80 km,selon les conditions de tir.

le r77 c'est 80 km pour avion cargo

et 50 km pour avion de chasse

Une source officielle serait la bienvenue, Arsenik. Ce que l'on trouve sur le net est trop incomplet et sans citation de source malheureusement, surtout pour la version M1.

Edit: Au niveau fabricant on trouve ceci (80 km pour le RVV-AE et 110 km pour le RVV-SD)...

http://www.ktrv.ru/production/68/649/652

http://www.ktrv.ru/production/68/649/902

rafi a écrit:

Une source officielle serait la bienvenue, Arsenik. Ce que l'on trouve sur le net est trop incomplet et sans citation de source malheureusement, surtout pour la version M1.

il a raison pou le R77 (standard)

Citation :

RVV-AE

Max launch range, km:
against fighter-type targets 50
against bomber-type targets 80

http://www.rusarm.ru/cataloque/airf0rces_cataloque.html

quand au SD,aucun client ne l´a pris a ce jour,les indiens ont preferé mettre le paquet pour le Mica.

Je ne dis pas qu'Arsenik avait tort, Yak, je cherchais une source qui reprenne l'info.

Le lien est connu, mais il a toute sa place ici...

The Russian Philosophy of Beyond Visual Range Air Combat...

Citation :

Object 370, Project 4202 and construction in Dombarovskiy

In April 2010, Rosnadzor, the regulatory body of the Russian government, issued a directive that ordered an environmental assessment of a very interesting project - "construction of facilities of the A35-71 launcher with a space head section at the Object 307 site ("создание комплекса ракеты-носителя А35-71 с космической головной частью на объекте 370"). This very brief phrase in a routine bureaucratic document raises quite a few questions - what are exactly the "A35-71 launcher", its "space head section", and "Object 370"? The short answer is that we don't really know. But we could guess (with a lot of help from my readers and some combing through the internet).

Object 307 is apparently a large construction project at a site 7 km away from Yasnyy. There are two R-36M silos of the Dombarovskiy missile division that are located at that distance from Yasnyy. One, to the north of the town, has been converted to the Yasnyy space launch site that supports launches of the Dnepr system, so it is already in use. The other one, to the east, is just a regular silo, which looks more suitable for a new project. The construction at the Object 370 site appears to be quite intensive - the site includes an "experimental testing base" as well as a number of buildings and extensive support infrastructure, including a new railroad link to Yasnyy.

The most interesting part of the construction activity appears to involve conversion of the old R-36M silo - SKTB-16, a design bureau with a long history of work on ICBM silos, mentions "conversion of P718 facility to P771 facility" as one of its projects. Now, P718 is apparently the 15P718, a standard R-36M silo; the missile itself has an index 15A18. So, P771 most likely refers to a silo that would house the A35-71 launcher, whatever it is (we'll get to the A35-71 in a moment). I couldn't find a direct connection between the SKTB-16 work and the Object 370, but there are not very many R-36M silos that could be converted. The Rocket Forces has kept some of these silos - there may be some in Uzhur and there are definitely a few in Dombarovskiy. Given the level of activity in Dombarovskiy, it is likely that the Object 370 is indeed the place where the silo conversion takes place.

The index A35-71 probably refers to some modification of the 15A35 missile system, otherwise known as UR-100NUTTH or SS-19. The index seems to suggest that the missile itself has not changed very much and the most important modification is the new "space head section" (космическая головная часть). I must admit it is really no more than a guess, but it seems to be reasonably consistent with other bits and pieces of information. So, what is this new "head section" and why the missile that carries it could not be deployed in old UR-100NUTTH/SS-19 silos?

The SKTB-16 report mentions that the conversion is done as part of the Project 4202 (в интересах темы "4202"). This is something new we could work with. As it turns out, Project 4202 is "one of the most important projects" of NPO Mashinostroyeniya - the old Chelomey design bureau that designed the UR-100NUTTH missile. A search through the NPOMash site reveals that this work involves manufacturing of something that has several sections of a fairly complex shape and uses some non-metallic and anti-radar materials - not a bad candidate for the new "head section" of the "A35-71 launcher."

A few more dots to connect - in 2004, NPOMash demonstrated what was described as a "hypersonic maneuverable warhead" that was flown on a UR-100NUTTH missile. Could that be the new "space head section"? I would say it's quite possible. It is a bit strange that it would be described as a "space" warhead, but it does seem to travel through space for a significant part of its flight, so it won't be much of a stretch. If this is indeed what the Project 4202 is about, it explains why its deployment requires modification of a silo - as I understand, this warhead is rather big, so it won't fit into a standard UR-100NUTTH silo. The R-36M silos are much deeper - the missile is about 9 meters longer than UR-100NUTTH - so it could probably accommodate the bigger "head section" as well. But the silos may need some modification - unlike R-36M family, UR-100NUTTH is a "hot launch" missile. I'm not sure this would be the main reason why the conversion is necessary, though - there might be others.

The "hypersonic warhead" is not the only possible explanation for the activity at the Object 370. The description of the A35-71 as a "launcher" (ракета-носитель) seems to imply that it would be used to deliver payload into space. I thought that the Naryad-V ASAT system is a reasonably good candidate as well - it was supposed to be deployed on UR-100NUTTH missiles. But a colleague who spent some serious time researching Project 4202 assured me that it's not Naryad-V. Another argument against Naryad is that an ASAT kill vehicle is unlikely to need anti-radar coating or a complex shape. Also, there is a possibility that Object 370 has nothing to do with the Project 4202.

Another question about this whole enterprise is whether it makes sense to develop a new payload for the UR-100NUTTH missile, which will turn 40 years old in a few years. One possible answer to that is that Russia may be planning to resume production of UR-100NUTTH or build a derivative of this missile - there are signs that something like this is under consideration. It's also possible that the new payload could bde deployed on Topol-M, although this does not seem to be part of the current plan.

If all this activity is indeed about deployment of a new system that would carry some kind of a "space head section" it could raise a few questions about whether this new system should be covered by the New START treaty. The treaty defines a ballistic missile as a "a missile that is a weapon-delivery vehicle that has a ballistic trajectory over most of its flight path." This definition would probably exempt some of the systems that the United States wants to deploy as part of its Prompt Global Strike program. The U.S., of course, would argue that these systems should not be considered "new kinds of strategic offensive arms" as they do not meet the definition of the treaty - they are not ballistic missiles, for example. Russia might be happy to agree with that position, since that would leave its own systems outside of the treaty as well. But unlike the U.S., Russia might want to deploy them with nuclear warheads - this would probably give the United States a pause.

I should say I remain quite skeptical about all these fancy systems - it is unlikely that in terms of delivered payload or the ability to penetrate missile defenses (probably a big selling point in Russia) they would outperform ICBMs. But that's never been the point of these kind of projects anyway.

In the end, I think the long answer to the questions about Object 370, A35-71, and Project 4202 is very much similar to the short one - we don't really know. But there is something interesting (if not quite reasonable) going on at Dombarovskiy. My guess is that we'll soon hear more about it.

http://russianforces.org/blog/2013/02/object_370_project_4202_and_co.shtml

Citation :

L’Archer : un missile air-air toujours très menaçant



Pour le colonel Claude Liévin, commandant du centre DGA-Essais en Vol de Cazaux en Gironde (base hôte de l’exercice Embow XIV), si les menaces auxquelles doivent faire face les forces aériennes de l’Otan sont surtout de nature sol-air, les menaces air-air n’en demeurent pas moins réelles.

C’est le cas du missile russe R-73 Archer, un missile air-air courte portée à guidage infrarouge de type “tire et oublie”. Entré en service il y a vingt ans, il est toujours considéré comme l’un des meilleurs missiles IR à courte portée (de 300 m à 30 km) sur le marché. Petit, léger et très répandu sur presque tous les types d’avions et même d’hélicoptères exportés au fil des ans par la Russie, le R-73 est un missile extrêmement manœuvrant, capable de virer sous un facteur de charge de 12 “g”, grâce à des petites tuyères vecto­rielles transversales accroissant le faible mouvement des gouvernes à Mach 2,5. Il peut être tiré sur près de 300° grâce à un viseur de casque — comme cela a été largement démontré sur MiG-29 ou Su-27. Sur Su-32, il a même été expérimenté en Russie pour le tir vers l’arrière dans une version légèrement modifiée !

Le modèle le plus récent mis au point par Vympel, le R-73M rebaptisé R-74EM, peut détruire des cibles jusqu’à 40 km avec une très faible probabilité d’échec, grâce à la qualité de son autodirecteur IR multi­spectral à très grand débattement (80° en vol), durci contre le leurrage, qui détecte non seulement les émissions chaudes des moteurs d’une cible mais aussi sa “température de peau”. C’est-à-dire les signatures de chaleur plus faibles émises par certaines parties de l’avion, comme le nez et le bord d’attaque des ailes, du fait de la friction de l’air.

Indépendamment de son prix d’acquisition, l’autre atout de l’Archer est qu’il peut facilement être intégré sur tous types de plates-formes aériennes, même les chasseurs et hélicoptères russes plus anciens (MiG-21, MiG-23 ou Mi-24) très répandus dans le tiers-monde. Constamment amélioré, le R-73 a aussi été monté sur Mirage 2000 et sur Mirage F1.

Il a surtout été à l’origine du programme du missile IRIS-T chez Diehl. Une expérimentation en vol sur MiG-29 ayant démontré la supériorité du missile russe sur les AIM-9 Sidewinder alors employés par les forces de l’Otan. Ont suivi dans la foulée la mise au point de l’AIM-9X chez Raytheon, du MICA chez MBDA et des Python 4 et 5 chez Rafael, sans oublier l’ASRAAM britanni­que, tous destinés à rivaliser avec l’AA-11 russe.

L’arrivée au sein de l’Otan de forces aériennes issues de l’ancien Pacte de Varsovie a permis à l’Alliance de disposer de connaissances accrues sur l’Archer, toujours employé par l’aviation polonaise sur MiG-29 et Su-22 et par celle de Slovaquie sur MiG-29.

http://www.ttu.fr/larcher-un-missile-air-air-toujours-tres-menacant/