Armée Chinoise / People's Liberation Army (PLA)

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J-7 Fishbed


J-8 Finback

J-9 / FC-1

J-10


J-11 Flanker/Su-27


J-12

JH-7


Su-30MKK


JL-8


JL-9

L-15 Falcon


Yunshu-7

Yunshu-8


Mi-17 Hip

S-70 Blackhawk

SA-342L Gazelle

WZ-9

Z-11

Ka-27

SA 321/Z-8

WZ-10

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China announces navy training in international waters

According to the Xinhua press agency, China's Ministry of National Defense Thursday announced that a naval flotilla in the East China Sea and southeast waters off the coast of Japan's Miyakojima Island was on routine training.

A brief statement released by the ministry said the training was carried out on the high sea according to the People's Liberation Army Navy's annual training plan.

Other parties should not speculate the flotilla's intentions since training in international waters was an international practice, said the statement, which failed to identify the warships or submarines in the area.

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Une deuxième installation chinoise de démagnétisation repérée

La marine chinoise a construit ce qui semble être une installation de démagnétisation près d’une base sous-marine de la mer Orientale. Il s’agit de la 2è repérée près d’une base navale chinoise depuis 2008.

Des installations chinoises de démagnétisation

La nouvelle installation de démagnétisation est située à moins de 10 km de la base des sous-marins chinois Kilo, à Maocao Nong, à environ 40 km au sud-est de Ningbo dans la province de Zhejiang.
7 sous-marins de la classe Kilo étaient visibles dans la base, le 15 janvier 2009, soit environ un tiers des 19 sous-marins d’attaque diesel déployés dans la mer Orientale.

Cette installation dépendant de la Flotte de la mer Orientale a été construite entre aout 2007 et mars 2008.
Cette installation est la deuxième installation chinoise de démagnétisation connue. En avril 2008, une première installation avait été identifiée sur l’île de Hainan, près de Yulin.
Cette première installation, dépendant de la flotte de la mer du Sud, avait été construite en janvier 2006 et février 2008.

Les 2 installations sont similaires mais présentes quelques différences. L’installation de la flotte de la mer du Sud est construite en forme de C, similaire en cela à la conception américaine. L’installation de la flotte de la mer orientale, qui est située dans une rivière, est composée de 2 quais parallèles, peut-être pour résister aux forts courants.
L’objectif de la démagnétisation

La démagnétisation est effectuée avant le départ en mission pour supprimer les champs magnétiques résiduels dans le métal d’un navire pour le rendre plus difficile à détecter par d’autres sous-marins et bâtiments de surface. Cela réduit la vulnérabilité du navire vis-à-vis des mines qui sont déclenchées par le champ magnétique des coques en métal.
Apparemment, la démagnétisation peut aussi améliorer la vitesse du navire.


A la fois les sous-marins et les bâtiments de surface sont démagnétisés à intervalles réguliers.
Les sous-marins nucléaires chinois, y compris des SNLE, sont basés dans les flottes Nord et Sud, mais pas dans la flotte Est. On peut donc s’attendre à voir prochainement la construction d’une installation de démagnétisation près d’une base de la flotte Nord.
Quelques implications

Des opérations occasionnelles des forces navales chinoises attirent l’attention de certains médias occidentaux, comme le récent transit entre les îles japonaises d’Okinawa et de Miyako de 8 destroyers et 2 sous-marins. D’un autre côté, les opérations de routine des forces américaines sont rarement décrites, sauf lorsqu’il s’agit d’exercices de grande ampleur ou lorsque des incidents révèlent des secrets comme l’incident de l’Impeccable en 2009.
La pose de mines dans les ports et les régions côtières serait probablement une mission importante, pour les sous-marins d’attaque américains comme pour les chinois, ainsi que pour les forces de lutte anti-sous-marine, dans un hypothétique conflit militaire entre la Chine et les Etats-Unis. Les forces navales chinoises ont, malgré la poursuite de leur modernisation, des retards significatifs dans les domaines technologiques et opérationnels.
Donc, la question se pose de savoir pourquoi la Chine n’a pas construit d’installation de démagnétisation plus tôt ? Après tout, les autres puissances navales l’ont fait il y a des dizaines d’années, après que des ingénieurs allemands de la 2è Guerre Mondiale aient inventé la mine magnétique. Selon un article paru dans la presse, la Chine semble avoir utilisé des navires de démagnétisation plutôt que des installations fixes.
Peut-être la construction de ces installations reflète-t-elle l’acquisition de nouvelles technologies, la décision que des installations fixes sont plus efficaces que des navires, ou que des modifications de la stratégie navale chinoise rendent la démagnétisation plus importante.

Cette installation de démagnétisation est située près d’une base sous-marine au sud de Ningbo, aux coordonnées 29°31′14.28″N, 121°40′30.00″

Localisation de la nouvelle installation
Comparaison entre les installations américaines et chinoises

Les 2 installations chinoises de démagnétisation connues sont similaires, pouvant traiter toutes les tailles de sous-marins chinois, et d’une conception similaire aux installations américaines du même type



La nouvelle installation chinoise de démagnétisation


Démagnétisation d’un SNLE américain

Un SNLE américain est préparé pour la démagnétisation à la base navale de Kitsap près de Bangor, état de Washington. L’US Navy dispose de telles installations sur les 2 côtes des Etats-Unis

Federation of American Scientists (Etats-Unis)

Nouveau pics .. les travaux avancent lentement en fait .. :

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China tries to hide J-10 fighter crashes

in the port city of Tianjin about 130- KM away from Beijing, China showed off its 4th Generation J-10 aircraft to military attaches of about 50 countries it could possibly export to. 9 days later as per Strategy page reports it was running to cover up the 2nd crash of the J-10 fighter that became public in the last two years. The 22 April crash became public because a senior colonel had died in the crash and the funeral became too big to keep the story hushed. The news report also claims that the design of the 200-odd J-10s produced has not worked out as desired by its developers. The crash and doubts over its design also comes as a set back to Pakistan, which was hoping to buy 36 J-10 in a deal worth US$1.4 billion has also been concluded reports China's English Peoples Daily. In the past it has exported fighter aircraft to Iran, Myanmar, Bangladesh and Pakistan. However, the pitfalls of reverse engineering without paying royalty and truly understanding the technology are high accident rates, a fact that China has hushed up with its lack of media freedom. The first flight of the J-10 begun took place in 1998. It is the most advanced 4th Generation aircraft to be built by China. However, Fighter-Planes.com reports the development of J-10 has proven to be torturous. The prototype was rumoured to have first flown in 1996, but the project suffered a serious setback in late 1997 when the 02 prototype lost control and crashed, as the result of certain system failure, presumably with either the FBW system or the engine. If the reports pertaining to the faulty design of the fourth generation fighter are serious enough, it will put the Chinese plans to replace the obsolete J-7 fighter and Q-5 attack aircraft in a limbo. With 2,000 combat aircraft China has the 3rd largest air force in the world

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mauvaise affaire donc pur la Chine,j´aime bien cette phrase,qui résume tout

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the pitfalls of reverse engineering without paying royalty and truly understanding the technology are high accident rates, a fact that China has hushed up with its lack of media freedom.

le 16 Mai :


et voilà le Type 081, aucune nouvelle à propos de ce prog depuis beaucoup de temps maintenant !!

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Beijing unveils its 'first unmanned opium reconnaissance plane', which will conduct a month-long aerial survey targeting growers of opium poppies, in Beijing on June 4, 2010. China's capital is resorting to unmanned drone aircraft to root out what authorities say is an increase in opium poppy cultivation in mountains surrounding Beijing, state media reported.

des LCAC chinois :

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Chengdu J-10B



Posted 7/6/2010
The J-10 is China's multi-role combat aircraft capable of all-weather day/night operation, the PRC's People's Daily has compared it to the F-16, Mirage 2000 and Su-27. The J-10B is an upgraded version of the original J-10 and was first seen in 2008.

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China May Boost Missiles Aimed At Taiwan To 1,900

TAIPEI - China could raise the number of missiles aimed at Taiwan to 1,900 by the end of the year despite warming ties between the former bitter rivals, according to the island's deputy defence minister.

Military experts estimate that the PLA currently has more than 1,600 missiles aimed at the island.

But recent media reports have said the People's Liberation Army may boost the number of short-range ballistic and cruise missiles facing Taiwan to 1,960 before the year's end.
"Judging from their manufacturing capacities, the PLA could increase to that number of missiles targeting Taiwan before the year's end," said Andrew Yang, an academic-turned deputy defence minister.
Although tensions across the Taiwan Strait have eased since President Ma Ying-jeou's China-friendly administration came to power in 2008, "Beijing has never renounced the use of force against Taipei," Yang warned.
Beijing has repeatedly vowed to invade Taiwan should the island declare formal independence even though Taiwan has governed itself since the end of civil war in 1949.
Yang did not discuss possible evidence indicating a missile build-up by the PLA. The perceived military threat has prompted Taiwan to launch war games simulating an invasion by China.
Taiwan's president has also vowed to build stronger armed forces to serve as a deterrent against aggression from Beijing, while also promising to push for a peace treaty to end more than six decades of hostilities

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Chinese J-10 Cockpit




The J-10 looks something like the American F-16, and weighs about the same (19 tons). Like the F-16 the J-10 has only one engine (built in Russia). It's no accident that the J-10 resembles the F-16, because Israel apparently sold them technology for their Lavi jet fighter, a "super-F-16" that Israel abandoned because it was too expensive.

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Les dépenses chinoises de défense sont à un niveau approprié
Le 30/07/2010
Les dépenses chinoises pour sa défense sont à un niveau raisonnable et approprié, a indiqué vendredi un porte-parole du ministère chinois de la Défense nationale.
Les dépenses de défense de la Chine ont représenté environ 1,4% de son PIB (produit intérieur brut) ces dernières années, tandis que ce pourcentage dans certaines puissances mondiales variait entre 2% et 4%, a fait savoir Geng Yansheng, porte-parole du ministère, lors d'une conférence de presse tenue à la veille du 83e anniversaire de la fondation de l'Armée populaire de Libération (APL, armée chinoise).

"Nous avons toujours synchronisé la défense nationale avec le développement de l'économie nationale", a-t-il indiqué.

Il a souligné que la Chine s'en tenait toujours à la voie du développement pacifique et appliquait une politique militaire purement défensive.

La Chine ne deviendra ni une participante à la course aux armements ni une menace militaire pour d'autres pays, a-t-il promis, avant d'ajouter que la Chine ne cherchait ni l'hégémonie ni l'expansion militaire.

M. Geng a indiqué que l'armée chinoise a contribué à la sauvegarde de la paix et à la stabilité du monde.

Ces dernières années, l'armée chinoise a rempli avec efficacité ses obligations internationales, participé activement à des missions de maintien de la paix de l'ONU, escorté les navires marchands dans des zones instables et participé à de nombreuses opérations internationales de maintient de la paix, a rappelé le porte-parole.

Il a déclaré que la Chine a établi des relations militaires avec plus de 150 pays.

http://french.cri.cn/621/2010/07/30/402s224589.htm

apres le grand exercice US-sudcoreen,la chine repond par un grand exercice incluant 100 Jets avec entre autres les SU-27 et J-10,et des moyens navales,artillerie,DCA..

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China military launches major air exercises

By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN (AP) – 1 day ago

BEIJING — China's military launched major air defense exercises Tuesday, highlighting rising capabilities that are seen as tipping the balance of power in east Asia.

The drills involve more than 10,000 service members, including those from naval and army aviation units and land-based air defense forces, according to the official China News Service.

CNS said the war games would run for five days over parts of the provinces of Shandong and Henan south of the capital Beijing. They will include three simulated attacks and one live-firing exercise designed around the scenario of defending the capital from an air assault.

No rehearsals were held for the exercises, which will emphasize real-time responses to unplanned events and the integration of units under separate commands, CNS said. About 100 aircraft of seven different types will take part, along with air defense missiles and artillery units.

Amid a boom in defense spending, China has lavished funds on its air force, navy and missile forces in recent years as part of a gradual shift away from ground units. The widely respected Stockholm International Peace Research Institute estimates total expenditures on the 2.3 million-member People's Liberation Army, including funding for arms imports and defense research and development, reached nearly $100 billion last year.

New additions to its air forces include SU-27 fighter-bombers purchased from Russia and produced under license by China, along with the homebuilt latest-generation J-10 fighter that Beijing touts as a breakthrough for its sprawling defense industry.

Such hardware and China's adoption of more effective training and tactics is widely seen as strengthening China's ability to assert its territorial claims over Taiwan and the South China Sea. Military planners from New Delhi to Washington have taken note, fueling calls for more attention to Chinese developments and increased regional cooperation with the U.S. military.

While tensions with Taiwan have declined under the island's relatively pro-Beijing administration, China has grown increasingly vocal in protesting U.S. naval operations off its coast.

Beijing repeatedly criticized last month's joint U.S.-South Korean exercises in the Yellow Sea and recently elevated the South China Sea — over which it claims complete sovereignty — to its list of high priority territorial claims.

Such moves coincides with a willingness to send its navy further from shore, including the unprecedented dispatch of Chinese ships to join an anti-piracy flotilla off the coast of Somalia.

As troops readied for Tuesday's exercises, two of those ships, the destroyer Guangzhou and frigate Chaohu, docked in Italy as part of a three-nation goodwill cruise, the government's Xinhua News Agency reported.

Overseas visits and more realistic exercises are both aimed at boosting the PLA's ability to project power and improve cooperation between its different branches, said Russell Smith, an analyst with Jane's and former Australian defense attache in Beijing.

"These are opportunities to practice conducting joint operations. I think you're going to be more reorganizing and restructuring in the PLA to emphasize this," Smith said.

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China Builds First Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile Base?





TAIPEI - China's new anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) will be deployed at the Second Artillery Corps' new missile base in Guangdong Province in southeastern China, if a new report issued by Washington-based Project 2049 Institute is correct.

On July 28, the state-run Xinhua News Agency reported the visit of local government officials to a new missile base in the northern Guangdong municipality of Shaoguan. The media report is the first to acknowledge the existence of the new missile base

The new 96166 Unit will be outfitted with Dong Feng 21C medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBM) and possibly the DF-21D ASBM, said Mark Stokes and Tiffany Ma in a new report "Second Artillery Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile Brigade Facilities Under Construction in Guangdong?" posted on Project 2049's website.
The DF-21C was introduced into active inventory in 2005 and is designed for land targets. Though the DF-21D ASBM is nearing the stage of low rate initial production, expected in 2011 or soon after, it is not likely to be deployed into active service until after lengthy testing of the prototype.
Though the province is already home to a Second Artillery short-range ballistic missile (SRBM) base in Meizhou (96169 Unit), the new base could "have unique capabilities that could complicate the strategic calculus in Asia, and the South China Sea in particular."
The ASBM has been dubbed the aircraft "carrier killer" by observers and is part of China's larger anti-access/area denial strategy designed to discourage the U.S. Navy from coming to the aid of Taiwan during a war. Now it appears China is using the same strategy to deter U.S. and other regional navies from operating in the South China Sea.
Though U.S. aircraft carrier groups have significant air defense capabilities, including SM-3 missiles, the threat ASBMs pose is a new one, said Stokes. No country has yet developed a reliable ASBM system and therefore there is reluctance among some analysts to dismiss the possibility China has developed the capability of locating and destroying a moving target at sea with a ballistic missile.
However, U.S. Pacific Commander Admiral Robert Willard told members of the U.S. House and Senate Armed Services Committee in March that China was nearing a test phase for an ASBM.
China has recently announced that the South China Sea is a "core interest" and now state-controlled media outlets are claiming the entire South China Sea as Chinese territory.
"Seems to me they are staying on policy by asserting their ownership of the South 'CHINA' Sea," said a former U.S. intelligence officer now based in Singapore. "They aren't going to deviate from that policy. They've got the patience until they own it."
The deployment of ASBMs near the South China Sea adds a new dimension to the problem regional powers and the U.S. are facing as China begins enforcing maritime claims.
The 1,700 km range DF-21D MRBM can hit most land targets in Vietnam as well as the northern Philippines, including Subic Bay, with little difficulty.
The 1,500-2,000 km range DF-21D ASBM should be able to cover the Spratly Islands at 1,800 km. This would include roughly seventy percent of the South China Sea, if the maximum range of 2,000 km is confirmed.
Additionally, the DF-21C and D will easily handle land targets on Taiwan and naval targets beyond the island with no difficulty. The eastern coast of Taiwan is roughly 800 km from the base. China already has 1,300 DF-11/15 SRBMs aimed at Taiwan and an unknown number of cruise missiles.
During China's 60th anniversary parade in Beijing in October 2009, the military displayed a variety of mobile missile systems, including the DF-11A and DF15B SRBM, DF-21C MRBM and DF31A intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM). The parade also displayed the DH-10 land-attack cruise missile.
The DF-31A is China's first road mobile ICBM capable of hitting Washington. Before this missile, China relied on aging silo-based DF-5 ICBMs for use as nuclear counterstrikes on the U.S.
As mobile missile systems, they will be difficult to locate and destroy during a war with the U.S. To add more difficulties for the U.S., the Shaoguan area is near tunneling projects through the Nanling Mountains that divide Guangdong and Hunan provinces.
"A Second Artillery engineering unit known to be responsible for tunneling work under the so-called 'Great Wall Project' has been in Shaoguan since as early as 2008," said the Project 2049 report.

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KJ-200 Airborne Early Warning & Control Aircraft

pauvre SAAB

they can clone everything

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China to Test Fire New Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile
The China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation is to test-fire the new Dong Feng 21D anti-ship ballistic missile, China National Radio has said.
The Dong Feng 21D has a range of 1,300-1,800km and can carry six warheads.
The missile, described as an aircraft carrier killer, is capable of sinking a ship immediately as it passes through the outer hull and explodes inside.
China had previously neither confirmed nor denied reports that it has finished developing the missile and would test-fire it this year.

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MAATAWI a écrit:

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China to Test Fire New Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile
The China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation is to test-fire the new Dong Feng 21D anti-ship ballistic missile, China National Radio has said.
The Dong Feng 21D has a range of 1,300-1,800km and can carry six warheads.
The missile, described as an aircraft carrier killer, is capable of sinking a ship immediately as it passes through the outer hull and explodes inside.
China had previously neither confirmed nor denied reports that it has finished developing the missile and would test-fire it this year.

naval-technology

En réponse aux manoeuvres de la Navy et corée du sud au large de la corée fin juillet dernier, des manoeuvres de grande ampleur.
Ont été de la partie le USS George Washington, une vaingtaine de navires et sous marins, et une centaine d'avion! La chine avait promis de riposter.

Apparemment la réponse des chinois va avoir un réponse des USA et S.korea le 18 septembre prochain

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U.S., S. Korea To Conduct Anti-Submarine Exercise

WASHINGTON - The United States and South Korea will carry out a joint anti-submarine exercise in the Yellow Sea in September to send a "clear message" to Pyongyang, the Pentagon said Aug. 18.

The exercise is part of a series being carried out by the two allies since March, when the South Korean warship Cheonan was destroyed in the Yellow Sea, claiming 46 lives
"We are going to continue a series of exercises that are of a defensive nature and are designed to send a clear message to North Korea," Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said.
"The next exercise in that series will focus on anti-submarine warfare. The exercise will be conducted in the waters off the western coast of the Korean peninsula and begin early next month."
The allies in July moved their first joint exercise after the sinking of Cheonan from the Yellow Sea to the eastern side of the Korean peninsula after Beijing raised concerns about "regional tensions."
Whitman said the anti-submarine exercise would be held in international waters and was designed to improve the readiness and efficiency of U.S. and South Korean forces to defend themselves against sub-surface attacks.
"This exercise sends a clear message to North Korea that the U.S. is committed to the defense of the Republic of Korea. Our commitment is unequivocal," Whitman said. "These exercises are intended to deter North Korea from future destabilizing attacks such as that which occurred with Cheonan."
Citing a multinational inquiry, Seoul has blamed the loss of the warship on a torpedo attack by a North Korean submarine, an allegation which Pyongyang has vehemently denied.
Any military drills involving the United States in the Yellow Sea are a sensitive issue because of the region's proximity to China, and the disputed maritime boundary between South and North Korea.
China, North Korea's closest ally and its most important source of economic and other aid, has refused to criticize Pyongyang over Cheonan and has repeatedly warned Washington and Seoul against the exercises.
South Korea and the United States are currently engaged in their latest exercise, a 10-day round of war games involving tens of thousands of troops that started Aug. 16.
Last week, South Korea held an anti-submarine drill in the Yellow Sea, but without any U.S. involvement.

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ZTZ-99IIM

Spoiler:

Joli cammo

Spoiler:

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La Chine a 'plus de bâtiments que les Etats-Unis'

Publié le 2 septembre 2010.
La Chine dépasse les Etats-Unis en ce qui concerne le nombre de ses bâtiments de guerre, indique un rapport de l’International Institute for Strategic Studies.
Selon ce rapport, la Chine a désormais plus de bâtiments de guerre que les Etats-Unis, qui pendant longtemps a possédé la plus grande flotte. Comme il peut être difficile de distinguer un bâtiment de guerre des autres types de bâtiments, l’IISS utilise sa propre définition.
Selon l’IISS, la Russie a eu la plus grande flotte de 1971 à 1996, les Etats-Unis de 1997 à 2006, et maintenant c’est la Chine depuis 2008.
"Cette tendance de fond est encore une autre manifestation de la montée de la Chine", précise l’hebdomadaire britannique The Economist.
La Chine s’appuie sur son économie florissante pour construire sa puissance militaire, alors que les Etats-Unis et les nations européennes réduisent leurs dépenses militaires.
Selon The Economist, l’écart va continuer de s’accroitre et ajoute qu’il y a une limite à la capacité des Etats-Unis à augmenter le nombre de ses bâtiments de guerre, puisque les couts de production ont explosé à cause des technologies ultra-modernes dont ils ont besoin.

RÉFÉRENCE :
Chosun Ilbo (Japon)

http://www.corlobe.tk/article20907.html

reste que l'USN dépasse de loin les autres marines en terme du tonnage globale de sa flotte !!