Armée Emirati/Union Defence Force (UAE)

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United Arab Emirates – CH-47F CHINOOK Helicopters
WASHINGTON, December 3, 2009 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress today of a possible Foreign Military Sale to the United Arab Emirates of 16 Chinook helicopters, and communication equipment, as well as associated parts, equipment, training and logistical support for a complete package worth approximately $2.0 billion.
The Government of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has requested a possible sale of 16 CH-47F CHINOOK Helicopters, 38 T55-GA-714A Turbine engines, 20 AN/APX-118 Transponders, 20 AN/ARC-220 (RT-1749) Single Channel Ground and Airborne Radio Systems (SINCGARS) with Electronic counter-countermeasures, 40 AN/ARC-231 (RT-1808A) Receiver/Transmitters, 18 AN/APR-39A(V)1 Radar Signal Detecting Sets with Mission Data Sets, flight and radar signal simulators, support equipment, spare and repair parts, publications and technical documentation, site survey, construction and facilities, U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $2.0 billion.

http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2009/UAE_09-69.pdf

le prix unitaire est plus cher que celui d'un F-16 BLOC52+ !!!!!

purée c est super cher comme meme, nous on les a payé moins cher de memoire

les F coutent quelques ~80M$,la grande somme vient des APR39A/IFF/SINCARS qui les equiperont ainsi que les details de la logistique/service qui sont viennent avec..

Peut être une mauvaise nouvelle pour les fans du Rafale.

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Dubai 09: UAE reveals fifth-generation fighter ambitions

By Stephen Trimble

A top United Arab Emirates military leader aspires to obtain a fifth-generation fighter in the very near term, suggesting a potential new sales coup for the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

"I hope that within a couple years the UAE, like many other countries, will have a fifth-generation fighter," says Brig Gen Ibrahim Naser Alalawi, deputy commander of the UAE Air Force and Air Defence. Alalawi was speaking at the Dubai International Air Chiefs conference held yesterday morning at Dubai's Knowledge Village Conference Centre.

Lockheed's F-35 is expected to be the only fifth-generation fighter available for sale for perhaps another decade. The Chinese J-12 and the Russian/Indian PAK-FA remain in the early stages of development.

The UAE has previously not been named among the several countries - including the UK, Australia and Israel - planning to buy the first export F-35s scheduled for delivery after 2013.

Ibrahim made the remark in the context of delivering a speech on the UAE's requirements for filling a capability gap with a new generation of advanced jet trainers. The UAE has selected the Alenia Aermacchi M-346 as a lead-in trainer for its new Lockheed F-16E/F Block 60s.

The US Air Force, meanwhile, is considering buying the M-346 as the last step for building up the skills of future F-35 pilots.

Alalawi did not elaborate beyond expressing his hope that the UAE will own a fifth-generation fighter. Subsequent slides showed pictures of the Lockheed F-22 and F-35. US law prohibits Lockheed from selling the F-22 abroad, but the US government strongly supports foreign sales of the F-35 to its allies.

It was not immediately clear how Alalawi's remarks could influence support among UAE military leaders to acquire another advanced fourth-generation fighter - the Dassault Rafale - even sooner.

Lockheed originally projected F-35 sales in the Middle East in programme briefing slides dating back to 2002. But more recently the company has declined opportunities to name the UAE as a near-term sales target. The F-35 is not even on display at Lockheed (stand E450), which is instead dominated by a model of the F-16.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/15/334899/dubai-09-uae-reveals-fifth-generation-fighter-ambitions.html

Raptor a écrit:

Peut être une mauvaise nouvelle pour les fans du Rafale.

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Dubai 09: UAE reveals fifth-generation fighter ambitions

By Stephen Trimble

A top United Arab Emirates military leader aspires to obtain a fifth-generation fighter in the very near term, suggesting a potential new sales coup for the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

"I hope that within a couple years the UAE, like many other countries, will have a fifth-generation fighter," says Brig Gen Ibrahim Naser Alalawi, deputy commander of the UAE Air Force and Air Defence. Alalawi was speaking at the Dubai International Air Chiefs conference held yesterday morning at Dubai's Knowledge Village Conference Centre.

Lockheed's F-35 is expected to be the only fifth-generation fighter available for sale for perhaps another decade. The Chinese J-12 and the Russian/Indian PAK-FA remain in the early stages of development.

The UAE has previously not been named among the several countries - including the UK, Australia and Israel - planning to buy the first export F-35s scheduled for delivery after 2013.

Ibrahim made the remark in the context of delivering a speech on the UAE's requirements for filling a capability gap with a new generation of advanced jet trainers. The UAE has selected the Alenia Aermacchi M-346 as a lead-in trainer for its new Lockheed F-16E/F Block 60s.

The US Air Force, meanwhile, is considering buying the M-346 as the last step for building up the skills of future F-35 pilots.

Alalawi did not elaborate beyond expressing his hope that the UAE will own a fifth-generation fighter. Subsequent slides showed pictures of the Lockheed F-22 and F-35. US law prohibits Lockheed from selling the F-22 abroad, but the US government strongly supports foreign sales of the F-35 to its allies.

It was not immediately clear how Alalawi's remarks could influence support among UAE military leaders to acquire another advanced fourth-generation fighter - the Dassault Rafale - even sooner.

Lockheed originally projected F-35 sales in the Middle East in programme briefing slides dating back to 2002. But more recently the company has declined opportunities to name the UAE as a near-term sales target. The F-35 is not even on display at Lockheed (stand E450), which is instead dominated by a model of the F-16.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/15/334899/dubai-09-uae-reveals-fifth-generation-fighter-ambitions.html

les usa ont decider de couler le rafale et faut dire qu ils y arrivent!!!! ils ont ramené du lourd au salon 2009

qui prendra les 2000-9 emiratis?egyptiens,pakis ou roumains?..

Spoiler:

qui remarque la bourde de flight global?

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Abu Dhabi Mar Confirms In Talks With ThyssenKrupp On HDW



Arab shipbuilder Abu Dhabi Mar Tuesday confirmed it is in preliminary talks with German steelmaker ThyssenKrupp AG (TKA.XE) on German submarine builder Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft, or HDW.
"I can confirm that Abu Dhabi Mar is talking to Thysenkrupp, the owner of HDW," a Germany-based spokesman for Abu Dhabi Mar told Dow Jones Newswires.
"Abu Dhabi Mar and Thysenkrupp are in due diligence on Blohm Voss, and in that context, they have also talked on HDW," the spokesman said, adding "there are no final discussions or negotiations. They are in preliminary talks."
He wouldn't confirm the size of the stake they are reportedly looking at. "They're focusing on Blohm Voss and completing that."
The comments come in response to an article in German daily newspaper Handelsblatt Tuesday, citing sources that Abu Dhabi Mar wants to take a 24.9% stake in HDW.
Company Web site: www.abudhabimar.com; www.thyssenkrupp.com

oui je l´ai vu sur canal eco allemand,vont pas leur donner 25% pour ne pas avoir un mot a dire,les arabes sauvent les europeens sans conditions..meme le gouvernement n´a pas encore dit son mot,l´industrie militaire est sensbile ici,surtout quand les etrangers s´y interessent

Yakuza a écrit:

oui je l´ai vu sur canal eco allemand,vont pas leur donner 25% pour ne pas avoir un mot a dire,les arabes sauvent les europeens sans conditions..meme le gouvernement n´a pas encore dit son mot,l´industrie militaire est sensbile ici,surtout quand les etrangers s´y interessent

Il y a des remeurs dit que l'Allemagne peut construire voir acheter ses propres SM des chantiers émeratis..

said a écrit:

les usa ont decider de couler le rafale et faut dire qu ils y arrivent!!!! ils ont ramené du lourd au salon 2009

Il y a pas que les US qui font couler le Rafale, cet avion est aussi victime de la politique de ''commercialisation'' de la france et surtout victime du déclin de la diplomatie française dans le monde.

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Emirati F-16 Fighting Falcon aircraft fly in formation over Southwest Asia Dec. 9, 2009, during a multinational exercise. During the exercise, aircrews from France, Jordan, Pakistan, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States are training together in the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility.

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From left, Emirati F-16 Fighting Falcon aircraft, an Emirati Mirage 2000 aircraft and a Pakistani F-7 Airguard aircraft

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From left, Emirati F-16 Fighting Falcon aircraft, an Emirati Mirage 2000 aircraft and a Pakistani F-7 Airguard aircraft

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An Emirati F-16 Fighting Falcon aircraft is refueled by a KC-10A Extender aircraft with the 908th Expeditionary Air Refueling Squadron

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An Emirati F-16 Fighting Falcon aircraft departs a U.S. Air Force KC-10A Extender aircraft from the 908th Expeditionary Air Refueling Squadron

Elles sont sublimes, merci Fremo

à ton service

que dieu te benisse Fremo

Merci Chef

Excellent; Merci Fremo

ils ont vraiment de la geule leurs F-16.
vous vous demandez sans doute ce que font des mirages 2000 et F-16 block60 emiraties avec des F-16 mlu jordaniens et un F-7 pakistanais? les francais ont la reponse

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"Carton plein" pour le Rafale, lors d'exercices aux Emirats


La participation de six avions de combat Rafale F3 au récent Air Tactical Leadership Course (ATLC) qui s'est déroulé aux Emirats arabes unis du 15 novembre au 9 décembre a été "un succès total". "Nous avons fait carton plein" assure le lieutenant-colonel Fabrice Grandclaudon, commandant de l'escadron 1/7 Provence (Saint-Dizier).
La participation à ce grand exercice international était très importante pour la France alors que les négociations pour la vente de 60 Rafale aux EAU se poursuivent. Clairement, un bon point a été marqué par les Français auprès de leurs collègues émiriens. D'autant que la disponibilité des Rafale a été "exemplaire" : ils ont pû participer à tous les exercices à raison de deux patrouilles de quatre avions par jour, depuis la base d'Al Dhafra
Le "plateau" réuni pour cet ATLP était impressionnant : F-16 C/D block 60 et Mirage 2000-9 (Emirats), F-16 MLU (Jordanie), F-7 [une version modernisée du Mig-21] (Pakistan), Typhoon [Eurofighter] (Royaume-Uni) et F-16 CJ et F-22 (Etats-Unis). Plus des Awacs et des tankers. L'exercice consiste à simuler des raids importants, jusqu'à quarante avions, dans "des missions réalistes représentatives d'un conflit de haute intensité". Les appareils doivent faire face à une oppositon aérienne et sol-air.
Au plan du combat aérien, son optronique secteur frontal (OSF) a permis aux Rafale d'identifier visuelement des cibles jusqu'à 30/40 kilomètres, alors que l'identification habituelle en défense aérienne se fait entre trois et cinq kilomètres. En matière de guerre électronique, les Rafales ont détecté des menaces sol-air que les F-16 CJ américains, dont c'est la vocation principale, n'avaient pas vu. Un Rafale a pu simuler le tir de six munitions air-sol (A2SM) sur 6 objectifs différents (programmés) à une distance de 20 à 40 kilomètres, puis tirer trois missiles air-air Mica, le tout en une minute - ce qui témoigne de la polyvalence de l'avion.
Lors d'affrontements air-air, le Rafale a "mis des tôles" aux Typhoons de la Royal Air Force, assure le lieutenant-colonel Grandclaudon. En version dégradée, à quatre contre quatre, les Rafale ont réalisé des scores de 4 à 0 et de 3 à 1.
L'avion de combat français s'est également frotté au F-22, le chasseur le plus moderne de l'USAF. Au cours d'une rencontre, ils se sont affrontés à six reprises, le F-22 ne mettant qu'un seul coup au but

source:secretdefense.blog.liberation.fr

C'est trop aimable de la part de l'USAF d'accepter un combat Air/Air en dogfight sans passer par le BVR d'abord, c'est un joli coup de pousse pour le Rafale Le score aussi et très encourageant, le Rafale n'a perdu que de 0-1 face au F-22 en 6 rencontres. Seulemnt, s'il y avait BVR d'abord il n'y aurait eu aucune des 6 rencontres

Ce qui est interessant dans cette histoire, c'est que le F-22 est excellent en dogfight aussi et pas qu'on BVR malgré ce disent certains.

MAgnifique

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MAgnifique

tu as remarqu" l etat des 2000-9 comparé aux 2000-5 de l AdA ?

edit : j ai oublier de prevenir Raptor d eviter de regarger cette serie

le blck 60 en ravitaillement formidable