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Yakuza Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Mar 10 Jan - 12:44 | |
| la fregate un peu "trop" modernisée pour une ancienne plateforme,le hardware ne suit pas _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Mer 11 Jan - 16:43 | |
| 2 Hermes900 pour la police nationale avec option pour 2 autres - Citation :
- Colombia is negotiating with Elbit Systems two UAV for usd$50 million
Colombia, and specifically the Air Service of the National Police, would be the next user of a Israeli manufacturer of Hermes 900 Elbit Systems. The business, for $ 50 million, includes two of these UAVs, with option to buy two others. In 2008 the Colombian government reversed an intention to purchase the Elbit Hermes 450 for the Colombian Air Force to anomalies in procurement and contract, which would have totaled $ 28 million, was never signed, despite the attempts of Director General of the Israeli Defense Ministry, Uri Shani.
As a result of the foregoing, the Colombian Air Force signed an agreement with the CIAC-Aviation Industry Corporation Colombiana SA-development and manufacture of tactical UAVs six bound for the Air Force, which go to complete the tasks undertaken since 2006 for seven Boeing Scan Eagle. The project was named Iris and her first prototype has already been tested last December.
The Hermes 900, an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle is a medium-altitude aircraft and long duration of 970 kilos, with a wingspan of 15 meters can be equipped with radar (which might be the Elta Systems EL / M 2022A) systems electro optical IR image, DF and ELINT COMINT systems based to customer requirements. Will undoubtedly support the role of the National Police Internal Security missions where intelligence information has appeared in synchrony with the bombing of the Air Force and the National Army air assault.
Colombia, once receive this equipment, will be the third operator of this product after Israel's Elbit and Chile. In the subcontinent, Brazil operates the Hermes 450 for the Federal Police. In relation to the possible radar Elta Systems, the company last year providing a Elta 2022A (V3) for CN-235MP Naval Aviation seeking to standardize the fleet of three units in their radar. Not forgetting that the same company that supplies radar IAI ELTA 2032 for the Kfir C10 of the Colombian Air Force. Defensa.com _________________ | |
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MAATAWI Modérateur
messages : 14756 Inscrit le : 07/09/2009 Localisation : Maroc Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Mer 25 Jan - 9:53 | |
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Colombia mulls buying more Israeli UAVs
BOGOTA, Jan. 23 (UPI) — Colombia has bought an Israeli unmanned air vehicle for security patrols on its troubled border with Venezuela and is considering acquiring at least one more, defense industry sources said.
Israel’s Elbit Systems this month confirmed it sold a UAV for $50 million to a Latin American country that it didn’t identify. Later, Infodefensa.com security and defense Web site identified the buyer as Colombia. Other reports said the UAV was ordered for deployment by the Colombian national police.
Colombia would use the UAV in border control missions notably in the country’s northeast along the border with Venezuela but infodefensa.com cited sources saying the Colombian army is also interested in procuring a UAV, AviationWeek reported.
Colombia and Venezuela patched up differences in 2011 but anti-government guerrilla activity in Colombia continues. Colombian officials accuse Venezuela of backing guerrilla groups opposed to the government in Bogota, a charge that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez denies.
Elbit’s Hermes 900 tactical UAV is an advanced vehicle that can be deployed in all kinds of difficult atmospheric conditions. The UAV flies at a maximum 33,000 feet and is usually tasked to capture real-time images and transmit them to a universal ground control station.
Hermes 900 can take off and land automatically even in adverse weather conditions, AviationWeek said on its Web site. The UAV’s maximum endurance is 40 hours and maximum takeoff weight is 2,134 pounds. It had its maiden flight Dec.14, 2009.
Elbit Systems developed the Hermes 900 as an extension of its Hermes 450 tactical UAV systems, with full compatibility in missions and support infrastructure.
The upgraded UAV features larger multi-payload configurations and higher flight altitude than its predecessor.
The Hermes 900 incorporates an Internal Auto Takeoff and Landing system that enables auto-landing even on alternate non-instrumented runways. It features full redundancy and fault tolerant avionics and electronics architecture.
Elbit says the accompanying universal ground control station can control two UAVs at any given time from a single station while a single operator operates the air vehicle and payloads for each UAV.
In July 2011, Elbit reported the first export sale of its Hermes 900 UAV to the Chilean air force. The Chilean choice followed evaluation of two classes of UAVs. At the high end were the Elbit Hermes 900 and IAI Heron, also from Israel and developed by the Israel Aerospace Industries.
At the lower tactical level were Elbit Hermes 450, and Aerostar from Aeronautics Defense Systems.
Industry sources said Elbit’s success in Colombia would likely open it to other markets in Latin America and the Caribbean.
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Fremo Administrateur
messages : 24818 Inscrit le : 14/02/2009 Localisation : 7Seas Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Mer 25 Jan - 13:57 | |
| - Yakuza a écrit:
- ca date de juin,le vice-amiral thailandais defendant le projet a menacé que s´ils les prennent pas,la colombie et chili les prendraient
http://www.twyggy.net/news/7405
ca fonctionnera encore pour plus de 10 ans a le croire,une periode transitoire raisonable pour apprendre la soumarinade a faibles couts Ben voilà, selon les thailandais la Colombie a déjà repris 2 des 6 U206 https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/t2387p120-armee-thailandaise-royal-thai-armed-forces_________________ | |
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Yakuza Administrateur
messages : 21656 Inscrit le : 15/09/2009 Localisation : 511 Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Mer 25 Jan - 15:31 | |
| les pays ambitieux qui veulent avancer sans dependre des vues d´autres,allah ijib li ifhamna _________________ | |
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MAATAWI Modérateur
messages : 14756 Inscrit le : 07/09/2009 Localisation : Maroc Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Lun 6 Fév - 11:25 | |
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Yakuza Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Lun 6 Fév - 15:59 | |
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Nano Colonel
messages : 1650 Inscrit le : 17/05/2009 Localisation : Brest - Rabat Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Lun 6 Fév - 16:06 | |
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Fremo Administrateur
messages : 24818 Inscrit le : 14/02/2009 Localisation : 7Seas Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Lun 6 Fév - 18:00 | |
| Portuguais wéé ...
C'est le duit de la coopération avec le Chili qui a fait un ToT pour ses 2 Voisins Colombie et Argentine pour son programme OPV80 ... Il y a pas beaucoup de différence sauf le cannon 57mm et le hangar agrandi ... mais aussi moins d'antenne de com par satellite _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Jeu 9 Fév - 15:46 | |
| Pour en savoir en plus sur l'achat des 2 U206 par la Colombie ... - Citation :
La marine colombienne lance l’achat de 2 sous-marins U-206
Pour un montant proche de 20 millions $, la marine colombienne a lancé la procédure pour l’achat de 2 sous-marins du type U-206A, récemment désarmés par la marine allemande et disponibles à la vente.
Ces nouveaux sous-marins — si l’achat se concrétise — renforceront la force sous-marine colombienne qui dispose déjà de 2 sous-marins U-209 et 2 SX-506 (à usage tactique). Cela augmenterait de manière notable les capacités dissuasives de la marine.
La négociation comprendrait aussi la formation des équipages, ainsi que l’achat de pièces détachées et d’armement (torpilles Atlas Electronik DM2A3).
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Yakuza Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Jeu 9 Fév - 19:35 | |
| dis donc,ils avaient deja 2 -209 en 1970 ca explique y´a tout les contrats passés des U-boot http://www.hdw.de/de/vertraege-1960-1980.html _________________ | |
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Fremo Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Jeu 9 Fév - 19:58 | |
| Je croyais que c'est eux qui ont signé avec les chiliens pour la modernisation de leur U209, il parait que ma mémoire me jouent des tours ...
De toute façon on connait très peu sur ces unités, récemment ils ont participé dans des exercices US pour la lutte ASM ... les américains l'ont utilisé pour développer leur technique ASM avec la menace qui montent au Pacifique.
Modernisés à 2 reprises au début des années 90 et au début des années 2000, ils doivent normalement être modernisé prochainement s'ils décident de les maintenir en service, en tout cas c'est évident ...
de toute façon la Colombie a bien besoin de renforcer sa flotte, il a 2 larges facades maritime en Atlantique et en Pacifique ... et elle manque de moyens pour se doter des nouveaux plateformes, on a bien vu la modernisation des vieux frégates récemment .. c'est en effet pour booster leur durée de vie et familiariser les équipages avec la nouvelle technologie ... _________________ | |
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Yakuza Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Jeu 9 Fév - 20:11 | |
| si,ils ont recu 2 material packages en 2008 pour overhauler/upgrader leur 209/1300 en bas http://www.hdw.de/de/vertraege-1981-2002.html _________________ | |
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Fremo Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Jeu 9 Fév - 20:18 | |
| Tiens, c'est nouveau ca pour moi ... Merci Yaku _________________ | |
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Yakuza Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Jeu 9 Fév - 20:20 | |
| de rien Amiral,j´apprends aussi plus en echangeant/cherchant _________________ | |
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Yakuza Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Lun 13 Fév - 17:02 | |
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- Colombia enters Type 206 talks
The Colombian Navy has reportedly begun negotiations to procure two Type 206A (U206A) diesel-electric coastal attack submarines from the German Navy for an estimated USD20 million 10-Feb-2012 Janes _________________ | |
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Fremo Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Mer 15 Fév - 12:13 | |
| un programme militaire pour renforcer les forces d'intervention de 3.5MM$ traduction google - Citation :
- The Defense Minister Juan Carlos Pinzón , confirmed that within the new strategy of war, the Armed Forces and Police are gaining new intelligence equipment, more helicopters and vehicles, for even greater effectiveness in the fight against terrorism.
"We have a very important plan associated with the changing military strategies that come forward, we seek to strengthen the capacity of the security forces in areas such as mobility, in areas such as intelligence, law enforcement increased and this will almost certainly expand the capabilities of the Armed Forces to continue to expand so effectively, "said Pinzon to clarify that the Police will have a reinforcement of 20 soldiers, while the Army will have 15 thousand.
The Defense Minister also noted that defense is about 7.2 trillion of Pesos (Around 3.5 Billion of Dollars) of extra resources , which are running for these next four years and will allow the authorities to implement rural security, mobile squads of policemen and new police stations.
Highlighted the results of the Police in the development of two operations achieved the capture of five members of a support network of the FARC , including aka alias Alfonso Cano.
"They were caught in Planadas, Tolima, five members of a network of support for terrorism of the FARC, including the nurse of Alfonso Cano. It is very important because in addition to capturing material was obtained will be relevant to intelligence and to continue to affect this terrorist organization, "said Finch, during installation of the International Congress for Territorial Authorities that began Tuesday in Corferias.
The Minister also revealed that joint action with the Air Force were bombed two camps of the Farc in the south and Midwest. "It was discharged several members of the FARC, recovered multiple weapons, computers and logistical material," said the senior official.
Finally, said the offensive forces have been all over the country and against all terrorist groups and criminal organizations. " To this date, only so far of this year they captured about 350 criminal gangs and not just members of his base, but also in the lower middle Cauca Antioquia, in the Atlantic Coast and Urabá. "
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Lun 12 Mar - 14:43 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Jeu 15 Mar - 21:23 | |
| - Fremo a écrit:
- Sinon, la Colombie pourrait racheter des Leo-1V chiliens au prix unitaire de 500K$ ..
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- According Infodefensa.com, the Army of Colombia continues its process of acquiring a main battle tank (MBT) for the Cavalry of the country.
Last week Colombian military commission visited Chile to meet its Leopard 1V. A general, two colonels and a major in the Army during his visit found the operating status of the Kraus Maffei Wegmann Leopard 1V and talked with Chilean cavalry officers in the country on various features and aspects of these vehicles. The Colombian interests lie in the perfect state they are in the vehicle and the value offered for sale (about $ 500,000). Chile would provide technical assistance and also be responsible for all matters related to installation and commissioning of the new school further reinforced in the border of La Guajira Department, northern Colombia. http://www.infodefensa.com/?noticia=el-ejercito-colombiano-continua-el-proceso-para-la-adquisicion-de-un-mbt-de-caballeria Ils s'intéressent au M1A1 au Lieu des Leo ... si ma mémoire est bonne, la Colombie figurait aussi parmi les probables acheteurs des M1A1 dans le doc de TACOM http://www.defensa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5466:abrams-m1a1-de-eeuu-podrian-interferir-en-el-interes-de-colombia-por-el-leopard-1v-chileno-&catid=55:latinoamerica&Itemid=163 Traduction Google : - Citation :
- U.S. M1A1 Abrams could interfere in the interest of Colombia by the Chilean Leopard 1V
In a letter two weeks ago the Chilean Minister of Defense Andres Allamand, the Ministry of Defense of Colombia Santiago requesting a specific offer of an unspecified number of Leopard 1V, which according to developed bilateral talks since March 2011 would 88 units, which as we have published in defensa.com, where we followed the development of Armored program since March 2010 (see: this will be the theater of operations of the Army of Northern Colombia. The country shuffles the options Armored). Chilean supply, which competes with European offers, would also include advice on the creation of the mechanized formations, manuals, initially the service would provide simulator and talked about to upgrade to these tanks before delivery to Colombia, which according Chilean sources in 2015 was not to be retired from service.
Similarly FAMAE ensure technical support to Colombia because of its ability to provide comprehensive support systems for the tank. The process between Bogota and Santiago has had three technical visits, two to Chile, one in October and again in December 2011, where the Colombian commission found on the ground of the Joint Command North of Iquique and the Joint Chiefs of Austral in Punta Arenas operation of the Leopard.
The third visit was in January this year, by a Chilean commission Colombia to advise the Minister of National Defence of Colombia in the creation of the Department of Arms Armor (Armor School Infrastructure Complementary more) in Riohacha, Department of La Guajira.
However, the formalization of interest from Colombia to Chile can offer consultations overshadowed by the Ministry of Defence brought forward next week with U.S. authorities about the possible sale of the M1A1 Abrams, an option that till date only was being driven by a broker without the support of Washington. However, consistent with the budget allocated for the purchase of tanks, about 60 million USD, is barajaría the option of providing a single Tank Battalion would be assigned to the Medium Cavalry Group "General Gustavo Matamoros D Costa".
Although there are other important deals in Germany and Italy for better Leopard versions of the truth is that the budget is not enough. However, the Ministry of Defence seeks to military purchases in material terms Armored consolidate a better offer three of its projects of major importance: Tank War to the Cavalry, APC vehicle for the Infantry and portable air defense system of Artillery (which are taken for granted is the Stinger missile, some on gun carriage in M-113 to cover the guard and center right and left sides in the formation of the Combined Arms Weapon Tanks Cavalry).
Thus, the idea of the Ministry of National Defense to apply after an initial purchase of 44 vehicles industrial compensation technology transfer to produce more units in Colombia could affect the long-awaited purchase of War Tank. By way of example, the contract dispute Colombian Infantry Weapon APC LAV 300 of Textron, Dossan Blackfox, RG 41de Bae Systems, RN 94, Nurol Machinery, Iveco and Freccia 6x6 GPV. General Dynamics is where you can take advantage of the offer Chilean press Lobby to position your product and sell Colombia LAV version of the M1A1 Abrams, and why not accelerate the purchase of their products Raytheon Air Defense. Also the other bidders are offering to Colombia proposed striking that in one way or another should materialize in the next three months. _________________ | |
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| Sujet: River-Coasters colombian ships Sam 24 Mar - 2:44 | |
| LPR-40 Colombian made, 45 builds. PAF-L (Patrullero de Ataque Fluvial- Ligero) 2 build PAF 12 build: |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Sam 21 Avr - 18:56 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Colombienne / Military Forces of Colombia / Fuerzas Militares de Colombia Dim 22 Avr - 1:47 | |
| - Fremo a écrit:
- Fremo a écrit:
- Sinon, la Colombie pourrait racheter des Leo-1V chiliens au prix unitaire de 500K$ ..
Traduction Google :
- Citation :
- According Infodefensa.com, the Army of Colombia continues its process of acquiring a main battle tank (MBT) for the Cavalry of the country.
Last week Colombian military commission visited Chile to meet its Leopard 1V. A general, two colonels and a major in the Army during his visit found the operating status of the Kraus Maffei Wegmann Leopard 1V and talked with Chilean cavalry officers in the country on various features and aspects of these vehicles. The Colombian interests lie in the perfect state they are in the vehicle and the value offered for sale (about $ 500,000). Chile would provide technical assistance and also be responsible for all matters related to installation and commissioning of the new school further reinforced in the border of La Guajira Department, northern Colombia. http://www.infodefensa.com/?noticia=el-ejercito-colombiano-continua-el-proceso-para-la-adquisicion-de-un-mbt-de-caballeria Ils s'intéressent au M1A1 au Lieu des Leo ... si ma mémoire est bonne, la Colombie figurait aussi parmi les probables acheteurs des M1A1 dans le doc de TACOM
http://www.defensa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5466:abrams-m1a1-de-eeuu-podrian-interferir-en-el-interes-de-colombia-por-el-leopard-1v-chileno-&catid=55:latinoamerica&Itemid=163
Traduction Google :
- Citation :
- U.S. M1A1 Abrams could interfere in the interest of Colombia by the Chilean Leopard 1V
In a letter two weeks ago the Chilean Minister of Defense Andres Allamand, the Ministry of Defense of Colombia Santiago requesting a specific offer of an unspecified number of Leopard 1V, which according to developed bilateral talks since March 2011 would 88 units, which as we have published in defensa.com, where we followed the development of Armored program since March 2010 (see: this will be the theater of operations of the Army of Northern Colombia. The country shuffles the options Armored). Chilean supply, which competes with European offers, would also include advice on the creation of the mechanized formations, manuals, initially the service would provide simulator and talked about to upgrade to these tanks before delivery to Colombia, which according Chilean sources in 2015 was not to be retired from service.
Similarly FAMAE ensure technical support to Colombia because of its ability to provide comprehensive support systems for the tank. The process between Bogota and Santiago has had three technical visits, two to Chile, one in October and again in December 2011, where the Colombian commission found on the ground of the Joint Command North of Iquique and the Joint Chiefs of Austral in Punta Arenas operation of the Leopard.
The third visit was in January this year, by a Chilean commission Colombia to advise the Minister of National Defence of Colombia in the creation of the Department of Arms Armor (Armor School Infrastructure Complementary more) in Riohacha, Department of La Guajira.
However, the formalization of interest from Colombia to Chile can offer consultations overshadowed by the Ministry of Defence brought forward next week with U.S. authorities about the possible sale of the M1A1 Abrams, an option that till date only was being driven by a broker without the support of Washington. However, consistent with the budget allocated for the purchase of tanks, about 60 million USD, is barajaría the option of providing a single Tank Battalion would be assigned to the Medium Cavalry Group "General Gustavo Matamoros D Costa".
Although there are other important deals in Germany and Italy for better Leopard versions of the truth is that the budget is not enough. However, the Ministry of Defence seeks to military purchases in material terms Armored consolidate a better offer three of its projects of major importance: Tank War to the Cavalry, APC vehicle for the Infantry and portable air defense system of Artillery (which are taken for granted is the Stinger missile, some on gun carriage in M-113 to cover the guard and center right and left sides in the formation of the Combined Arms Weapon Tanks Cavalry).
Thus, the idea of the Ministry of National Defense to apply after an initial purchase of 44 vehicles industrial compensation technology transfer to produce more units in Colombia could affect the long-awaited purchase of War Tank. By way of example, the contract dispute Colombian Infantry Weapon APC LAV 300 of Textron, Dossan Blackfox, RG 41de Bae Systems, RN 94, Nurol Machinery, Iveco and Freccia 6x6 GPV. General Dynamics is where you can take advantage of the offer Chilean press Lobby to position your product and sell Colombia LAV version of the M1A1 Abrams, and why not accelerate the purchase of their products Raytheon Air Defense. Also the other bidders are offering to Colombia proposed striking that in one way or another should materialize in the next three months. Dans le 1er Tacom (2009) ils etaient dans la liste, mais je crois qu'il y avait une petite erreur de frappe, 880 chars.. _________________ الله الوطن الملك | |
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