comment quand Saab meme utilise des moteurs US pour ses gripen
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Les Suédois sont chevronné dans le domaine des moteur , notamment pour les moteur de stand off ou cruise , pour les gripen il y a une multitude de moteurs , je pense que l'expertise suédoise et l'expertise des Turcs en moteurs peuvent éboucher sur une ccopération très fructueuse , la base concernant la reflexion , le travail , l'ingéniosité la discipline et le gout pour la qualité pourront je pense etre très interessant .
Par exemple j'aimerais bien voir les toutes dernières version des RBS sur les fregates Turque avec du Sizzler , ainsi que du rbs sur les avions pourquoi pas .
Ce qui me questionne , c'est quel type d'avion avont nous en ligne de mire , c'est la question à se poser , souhaitons nous un F16 BLOCK 100 , un F15 SE , un RAFALE , UN TYPHOON , UN F 35 ETC...
Compte tenu des element géographie et cartographie de la Turquie , de ses voisins , de sa strategie de combat , un avion capable d'etre aussi pointu que nos F16 pour le dogfight avec une manoeuvrabilité plus grande , d'où peut-être la cooperation suédoise , ensuite pour les frappe au sol , une capacité d'emport élever , tout ceci avec la réduction en poid des matière et de la cellule de l'avion mais avec une meilleure robustesse dans des conditions extreme , plus le multi mission qui necessite des variation de temperature que les celulle devront supporter , rien que de passer de KARS à Antalya c variation climatique extreme garanti .
Un moteur surpuissant donc bi reacteur , j'ai pourtant la nette impression qu'on se redirige sur du mono ...
Un rayon d'action plus elever , rien que ses question là relève d'une partie de mastermind pas gagner d'avance , car mixer tout ses avions ne serait pas reussi il faut faire un choix , sois on s'oriente sur deux trois type d'aeronefs et on specialise chacun des avions , superiorité aerienne interception plus dogfight frappe au sol donc dison F15SE ET F16 , ou bien Typhoon ET Rafale , plus l'avion de soutien , je pense qu'avec le F35 On sera déja equiper , c'est surtout la question de l'utilisation de l'aeronefs qui me questionne , sur quoi et quel strategie nous dirigeons nous ?
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Sam 10 Mar 2012 - 21:00
Evidemment ce projet d'avion de chasse national n'est qu'au stade embryonnaire.
Je trouve bizarre que tu soutiens la coopération avec la Suède qui a reconnu le génocide arménien
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Sam 10 Mar 2012 - 21:18
La coopéation se fait avec SAAB et non la SUEDE
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Sam 10 Mar 2012 - 21:24
Je souhaiterait de tout coeur que les relation entre l'Allemagne et la Turquie redevienne comme avant , avant on avait schroder et un gouv chp , maintenant akp merkel , quand il y aura du SAADET et un neo Schroder la TURKDEUTSCH FERA SONT RETOURS ET SA SERA BIEN MIEU .
Pour le moment une coopération doit se faire bien entendu avec de pays qui partage une politique similaire a la notre , le choix de SAAB et pour le moment mieu que SNECMA OU GENERAL ELECTRIC OU BIEN ROLLS puis MIG donc pour SAAB disons que c mieu , maintenant l'ALLEMAGNE SA AUAIT ETE TOP , au moins se pays etait lie avec nous , nous avons de gros lien avec l'ALLEMAGNE
Puis meme si la Suède ne partage pas la meme Politique que nous , je préfère la Suède au Etats Unis pour une coopération , comme dit la cooperation est avec SAAB , a moin qu'on prenne la decision de donner une part de coopération plus grande et decidions de developper conjointement l'avion
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Lun 12 Mar 2012 - 15:47
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U.S. pilots plant SEAD with Turkish counterparts
KONYA, Turkey | The Turkish and U.S. air forces continue to combine their air assets and share tactics in large-force employments during Exercise Anatolian Falcon 2012 here March 5-16.
During LFE exercises, units oftentimes take advantage of the high number of aircraft participating to test mass communication efforts, but the 480th Fighter Squadron pilots from Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, are sharing suppression-of-enemy-air-defenses tactics with their Turkish counterparts.
SEAD, the 480th FS's specialty, is any action taken to deter enemy surface-to-air missiles or anti-aircraft artillery. The objective is not the destruction of the ground-based threats but to subdue those threats until an air mission is complete.
"Our enemies know some of the capabilities of SEAD teams," said Capt. David Dubel, a 480th FS pilot. "The presence of a SEAD team is sometimes enough in itself to make our enemies flee and allow us to complete whatever mission we're on."
For Anatolian Falcon 2012, each air mission has an objective such as the destruction of a plotted target or the defeat of enemy aircraft. Mission planners assign groups of aircraft-specific tasks, either offensive counter air, SEAD or ground attack.
Both nations employ the F-16 Fighting Falcon, a multi-faceted fighter aircraft that can combat threats in the air or on the ground. Turkish and U.S. military units train differently, and the various functions of the F-16 can lead pilots to specialize in or understand unique perspectives of the aircraft.
Large-scale exercises allow the NATO allies to share and build upon proven tactics and techniques. For the 480th FS, sharing their SEAD tactics with the Turkish air force helps both prepare for real combat.
"We're expecting to be targeted -- that's our job," Dubel said. "We have a lot of tactics to defend against those threats. There are different tactics as to whether the enemy is just looking at us, have a lock on us or have actually fired a missile.
"The (ground attack) mission is to get 100 percent bombs on target," he continued, "and SEAD's mission is to get 100 percent of the (ground attackers) home."
An exercise-evaluation team is on site to test the SEAD teams' capabilities to safeguard the ground-attack aircraft. The team members of the Multinational Aircrew Electronic Warfare Tactics Facility, also known as Polygone, use a mobile surface-to-air missile radar system to target and "destroy" the exercise aircraft.
The system forces the pilots to change their plans en-route, said Jack Graham, a radar technician. Once the technicians switch the system to the radar or active mode, it emits a signal. The signal alerts the pilots to the radar's presence. The pilots then must identify the threat, assess the risks, attack the new threat or avoid the area all together.
Graham said he can mask the radar's location by switching off the detection system. Since the radar is mobile, the team can move to different locations as directed by the mission planners. As Anatolian Falcon 2012 continues, the location or frequency of attacks change to strain the SEAD capabilities of the Turkish and American pilots.
"We keep the pilots on their toes so they're always prepared for the real event," he said. "As long as we keep them on their toes, we're doing a good job."
Dubel said some of the exercise scenarios are relatively calm until an unlocated surface-to-air missile system begins broadcasting a frequency.
"Our job is to sniff out the SAM systems and change the game plan," Dubel said. "We don't want to lose any of our players, which in the real world would be our lives."
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Mar 13 Mar 2012 - 10:55
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Israel embargo on Turkey hits IAI-Boeing cooperation
"Defense News" reports that delays in allowing IAI to deliver electronic systems threatens other Israeli defense suppliers.
Cooperation between Israel Aerospace Industries Ltd. (IAI) (TASE: ARSP.B1) unit Elta Systems and Boeing Company (NYSE: BA) to produce airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) is being threatened because the project is due for delivery to the Turkish Air Force, "Defense News" reports. Israel's Ministry of Defense has instructed Elta to delay delivery of two of the four sub-systems for electronic support slated to be installed in the early warning aircraft, as part of the US Peace Eagle program for Turkey.
"Defense News" says that some Israeli defense sources fear the incident could inflict long-term damage to trade relations between the US and Israel.
"Defense News" writes that "If Elta cannot deliver the remaining systems for the Turkish program, industry sources here said Boeing may seek alternate suppliers for South Korea and other customers of the 737-based AEW&C aircraft."
Consequently, Elta is pressing Israel's Ministry of Defense to cancel delay of delivery. The instructions, which became valid last fall, also threaten to expose Elta to fines for violating contracts and would tarnish its good name.
"Defense News" recounts that late last year Israel's Ministry of Defense refused to allow Elta and prime contractor Elbit Systems Ltd. (Nasdaq: ESLT; TASE: ESLT) to complete delivery of previously authorized long-range aerial photography systems to the Turkish Air Force. The decision cost Elta $55 million, while Elta Systems reported losses of $80 million and a $65 million drop in 2011 fourth quarter net profit as a result of write-offs and other costs associated with the terminated program.
"Defense News" notes that, "Unlike the earlier contract with Turkey, government and industry sources insist Elta's export license to Boeing is not suspended is not suspended but rather put on hold pending additional review. In contrast to the terminated long-range pod program, industry sources said the ESM subcontract to Boeing involves a passive, purely defensive system that in now way enhances the attack capabilities of the Turkish Air Force."
There is a danger that Boeing will declare force majeure and kick us out of this prestigious and lucrative program," one industry source said.
An Elta spokesman confirmed that delivery of the two electronic sub-systems had been delayed for "political reasons." He said, "We're trying to work it all out, before it becomes a much bigger problem."
Boeing spokesman David Sloan declined to discuss licensing issues or delivery delays associated with the firm's Israeli subcontractor. He said, "We continue to be on plan for delivery of Turkey's first Peace Eagle aircraft by the end of the year."
US defense sources said that beyond immediate commercial and legal repercussions for Elta, the freeze on deliveries to Boeing carries grave, long-term implications for the future of US-Israeli defense trade. A former Israeli defense official told "Defense News" that the case, if not resolved promptly, threatens to hamper a high priority US-Turkish program with operational implications for NATO. He said that it might also impede Boeing's ability to perform as required under its $1.6 billion contract with Turkey and discourage other US firms from entering into strategic international cooperation with Israeli suppliers.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Mar 13 Mar 2012 - 12:25
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Turkish Navy adopts new high-sea strategy
ISTANBUL- Hürriyet Daily News Turkey’s Naval Forces aim to protect lanes of communication on the high seas to assure global maritime security and protect national interests under an austere defense budget as part of its new strategy, a top Turkish Navy commander has said.
“Our force planners use strategic decision-making, focusing on sophisticated, modular designs that allow us to move toward economy in our operations with fewer crew and lower fuel costs. The objective is to maintain and develop a credible naval force despite budget constraints,” Admiral E. Murat Bilgel, commander of the Turkish Naval Forces, said in an interview in the March issue of Proceedings, a monthly magazine published by the United States Naval Institute.
For these purposes, the Navy must be a versatile, well-trained, and well-equipped force that can be deployed at strategic distances, Bilgel said, adding that the force must be “fully interoperable with its military and nonmilitary counterparts while protecting sea lanes of communication and being prepared to support joint and combined land activities from the sea.”
To achieve these goals, the Navy will make the best use of Turkey’s shipbuilding and design capacity at domestic naval and private shipyards, research centers, and via the defense industry, the admiral said.
The top commander also gave information on the Navy’s future strategy. In the short term, the Navy will improve its situational awareness capabilities by adding corvettes and patrol boats to its fleet. Within a decade, the Turkish Naval Forces will focus on conducting operations other than war by building a reconfigurable landing platform with airlift capability, a combat-support ship, multifunctional frigates with unmanned and manned rotary-wing aircraft, as well as air-independent propulsion submarines.
The Navy aims to advance its limited-strike ability over the next 20 years through the acquisition of a multipurpose landing platform with organic short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) aircraft, air defense frigates and unmanned underwater vehicles.
The Turkish Navy is already planning to buy the design for its first landing platform dock (LPD) Three Turkish-led groups are currently vying for the contract that will be worth between $500 million and $1 billion.
Turkey is expected to spend more than $4 billion on defense procurement this year. In recent years it has focused on Navy programs. Multibillion-dollar naval programs have included the joint production of six modern submarines with Germany, as well as the largely local manufacture of eight corvettes.
“In line with [our] objectives, we will continue to sustain operational effectiveness and a deterrent posture through innovation, maintaining the strategy and technology interface, exploiting indigenous capacity, prioritizing projects and continuous manpower education and training,” Bilgel said.
Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Mar 13 Mar 2012 - 17:11
An F5 Crashed Into The Front Yard Of Tumosan Factory In Konya
F-5 belongs to Acrobatic team of Turkish stars
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تحطّم مقاتلة تركية من طراز أف-5 في وسط البلاد تحطمت مقاتلة تركية من طراز "أف-5" في إقليم قونيا، في منطقة الأناضول وسط تركيا، خلال طلعة تدريبية.
وذكرت صحيفة "زمان" التركية، في عددها الصادر في 13 آذار/ مارس، أن المقاتلة تحطمت بالقرب من مصنع للمحركات في قونيا خلال طلعة تدريبية، ما أدى إلى مقتل أحد الطيارين وفقدان الآخر.
وقالت إن فرق مكافحة الحرائق وسيارات الإسعاف توجهت إلى المنطقة، ولم ترد معلومات بعد بشأن خسائر بشرية ممكنة.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Mar 13 Mar 2012 - 22:08
Le pilote décédé ce matin, marié, il avait un fils qui est né il y a 17 jours
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Mar 13 Mar 2012 - 22:19
Allah rahmet eylesin. Sehitler ölmez.
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visite du Président Gül lors des manoeuvres d' hiver à Kars en vidéo.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Mer 14 Mar 2012 - 14:45
RIP Aslan,y´a pas de plans pour upgrader vos AH-1F sur la video,par exemple les equiper de filtres suppresseurs IR? (neige,entourage froid,haut risque) fallait lui montrer les W
Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Mer 14 Mar 2012 - 14:52
RIP
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RIP Aslan,y´a pas de plans pour upgrader vos AH-1F sur la video,par exemple les equiper de filtres suppresseurs IR? (neige,entourage froid,haut risque) fallait lui montrer les W
il me semble qu'ils ont déjà été modernisé.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Mer 14 Mar 2012 - 22:35
Ca date d'une quinzaine de jours mais ça n' a pas été posté je crois;
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Russian Bombers over Black Sea Alert Bulgarian, Turkish Air Forces Defense | February 23, 2012, Thursday| 3298 views
Five Russian strategic bombers have raised alert with the Bulgarian and Turkish Air Forces after flying close by over the Black Sea on Wednesday.
The five Russian Tu-22 bombers were detected right off Bulgaria's coast, on the fringes of the Bulgarian air space, the Standart daily reported Thursday, saying that the information has been confirmed by sources from the Bulgarian Defense Ministry.
The Bulgarian military has explained, however, that the Russian bombers never entered Bulgaria's air space, even though they reached within 40 km of the Bulgarian Black Sea coast, apparently bound south, towards Africa.
At the same time, however, the Russian bombers are reported to have caused alarmed the Turkish Air Force, with unofficial information saying that the Turkish military immediate flew two F-16 fighters to escort the Russian bombers.
When asked why no Bulgarian fighter jets on duty were flew off over the Russian bombers, the Bulgarian Defense Ministry is quoted as saying that it is up to NATO's southern command to decide whose fighter jets would be sent in the air in similar situations.
Observers have been quick to link the flying over of Russian strategic bombers over the Black Sea with the naval drills of the Russian Navy over the international tensions around the situation in Syria, which is the site of massive civil unrest and protests against the Assad regime, and Iran, whose nuclear program advance is fueling fears it might be subject to air strikes by Israel and/or the USA.
A group of Russian naval ships arrived in early January in the Syrian port of Tartus, where two Iranian warships also came last week.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Jeu 15 Mar 2012 - 17:43
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RIP Aslan,y´a pas de plans pour upgrader vos AH-1F sur la video,par exemple les equiper de filtres suppresseurs IR? (neige,entourage froid,haut risque) fallait lui montrer les W
Ils seront retirés du service avec l'arrivée des T-129. Seul restera les AH-1W et les T-129 au sein de l'armée de terre, en gros une soixantaine d'hélicoptère de combat.
Merci pour la vidéo Aslan, l'armée de terre Turque est prête, les manoeuvres d'hiver est une préparation pour une éventuelle guerre dans le Caucase.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Jeu 15 Mar 2012 - 19:57
Quel ironie de voir Arinç avec des militaires
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Jeu 15 Mar 2012 - 20:11
Baybars a écrit:
Yakuza a écrit:
RIP Aslan,y´a pas de plans pour upgrader vos AH-1F sur la video,par exemple les equiper de filtres suppresseurs IR? (neige,entourage froid,haut risque) fallait lui montrer les W
Ils seront retirés du service avec l'arrivée des T-129. Seul restera les AH-1W et les T-129 au sein de l'armée de terre, en gros une soixantaine d'hélicoptère de combat.
Merci pour la vidéo Aslan, l'armée de terre Turque est prête, les manoeuvres d'hiver est une préparation pour une éventuelle guerre dans le Caucase.
Mais les AH- 1F ont bien été modernisé ? Cette modernisation comprennait les filtres supresseur d' IR il me semble non ?
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Jeu 15 Mar 2012 - 20:48
Tskfanatik a écrit:
Mais les AH- 1F ont bien été modernisé ? Cette modernisation comprennait les filtres supresseur d' IR il me semble non ?
Les AH-1F sont bien modernisés, c'est la version AH-1P aujourd'hui.
Modernisation ou pas, ils se font vieux.. Ils seront peut être donner à un pays ami, comme l'Albanie ou l'Afghanistan, etc..
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Jeu 15 Mar 2012 - 21:03
merci Baybars et Tsk,voila ce qui est claire
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Sujet: Re: Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri Jeu 15 Mar 2012 - 21:18
C'est bientôt le printemps, les BMC Kirpi (MRAP) sont envoyés près de la frontière irakienne :
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