Armée Turque/Turkish Armed Forces/Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri

Rappel du premier message :

L'armée turque sera représentée par 10 étoiles au sein de l'Otan.

Comme je l'avais présenté il y a peu, le projet Ozgur (Libre) consistera à développer un avionique national avec intégration de notre armement national, il sera intégrer sur un F-16 Block 30 (pour test bed).

Tout ça pour le projet de chasseur national, TFX

Le gouvernement d'Erdogan fait passé un décret envoyé au parlement qui rend possible des entraînements illimités des forces spéciales turcs avec les Usa.

L'opposition pense que cela à un rapport avec le conflit syrien. Ce sont des éléments des forces spéciales turcs qui ont reçu des cours sur la guerre asymétrique, les problèmes socio-politique, qui agissent à l'intérieur et à l'extérieur du pays.

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“Hava, deniz ve kara gibi klasik unsurların yapamadıkları görevleri üstlenen, sosyal, toplumsal ve terör gibi konularda özel eğitim almış, yurtiçi ve dışında faaliyet gösteren özel kuvvetlerdir”

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/22143643.asp

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Turkey Plans To Build up to 8 Frigates

ANKARA — Turkey plans to build four frigates with assistance from foreign shipyards and likely will fund an additional four for a total cost of about $7 billion, after the current production of eight corvettes is completed between 2015 and 2020, a senior procurement official said.

The official said the frigates would be built in private shipyards but will include the contribution of foreign bidders, as the program is too complex for local companies.

The Undersecretariat for Defense Industries has said air defense frigates are needed to defend against weapons fired by aircraft and other platforms, and to provide command and control, early warning, reconnaissance, surface warfare, underwater warfare, electronic warfare and air defense warfare.

The procurement official said that Lockheed Martin, BAe Systems and Navantia were ready to participate in the program, due to be finished in 2023, the 100th anniversary of the Turkish Republic.

The frigates, known as the TF2000, are supposed to be able to cruise at 18 knots with a maximum speed of 28 knots.

Turkish firm Aselsan will develop a multipurpose radar to counter the air threats, but the program lacks armament such as the U.S. Standard Missile 2, which Turkish officials are seeking to obtain.

The TF2000, as could be understood from its obsolete name, actually was designed in the 1990s, but could not be finalized at the time due to a series of financial crises.

The procurement official said this should be the last Navy program that will require foreign participation.

defensenews

TF-100 (4) et TF-2000 (4) , je suis un peu perdu dans ce projet, Baybars

Le TF-100 est une frégate légère qui est la continuité du Milgem-S.

Le TF-2000 est une frégate lourde/destroyer.

Je ne vois pas l'utilité du TF-100. Faut construire juste des destroyer.

Pendant une certaine période il était aussi question d'integrer le programme GCS (Type 26), c'est annulé je pense...

Raptor_M a écrit:

Pendant une certaine période il était aussi question d'integrer le programme GCS (Type 26), c'est annulé je pense...

Les Turcs savent que les Anglais veulent sauver leur industrie navale, donc pas intéressant pour la Turquie.

Baybars a écrit:

Les Turcs savent que les Anglais veulent sauver leur industrie navale, donc pas intéressant pour la Turquie.

Je ne pense pas que ce soit ça la cause, les partenariats internationaux n'obeissent pas à des régles chauvines, c'est une question de win-win et de convergence d'intérêts.

Je pense que les 2 parties n'avaient pas la même vision des choses, chacune avait ses propres priorités concernant la nature du Type 26, il me semble que c'est plus une frégate qu'un destroyer, les british ont leur AA Destroyers et veulent remplacer les Type 23. C'est pour cette raison que ce n'est pas intéressant pour la turquie, pas parce que les british veulent sauver leur industrie... Car de toute façon le projet verra le jour avec ou sans partenariat étranger c'est une frégate donc c'est pas un luxe dont les anglais peuvent se passer.


Tu sais baybars? il y a quelques mois j'avais critiqué votre partenariat avec SAAB pour la même raison, quand ils ont fait leur proposition pour le TFX, (j'ai dit que les suédois veulent sauver leur industrie), et tu as eu un avis différent, tu as dit que le plus important c'est le ToT que vous allez avoir et le partage d'expérience que peuvent proposer les suédois, même s'ils sont pas à l'aise financièrement, baybars, tu as la mémoire très courte et aucune ligne directrice

C'est amical

Les Anglais n'ont rien proposé d'intéressant à la Turquie. Ils voulaient qu'on investissent de l'argent pour qu'ils construisent eux même le navire. C'est du win-win ça?

Baybars a écrit:

Les Anglais n'ont rien proposé d'intéressant à la Turquie. Ils voulaient qu'on investissent de l'argent pour qu'ils construisent eux même le navire. C'est du win-win ça?

Nos idées se rejoignent donc, j'ai dit nulle part que l'offre était interessante.

Afiyet seker olsun, aslanlar (bon appétit)

Quand je vois des photos comme ça, ça me rappelle une série Turque où un mec "profond" (derin) disait :

"Siz sicak yataklarinizda yatarken, ben dagda yattim" (quand vous dormiez dans vos lits chauds, moi je dormais dans la montagne).

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Turkish Navy G-Class AAW Frigate (Ex US OHP Class) TCG-Gökova escorting the Turkish Medical Aid ship during the patrol mission at Gulf of Aden

La Turaf va acquérir plusieurs pods Db-110..

willkommen im Klub

Yakuza a écrit:

willkommen im Klub

Vous c'est pour les F-16, nous pour les F-4, ça remplace le LOROP qu'on a annulé.

Dans l'ordre de bas en haut :

TCG Gaziantenp [F-490], TCG Turgutreis [F-241], TCG Akar [A-580], TCG Kemalreis [F-247] ve TCG Giresun [F-491]



Chasseur de mines TCG Ayvalık [M-267]

inanc a écrit:

Un MRAP est réparé s'il peut l'être sinon il est remplacé. Je sais que dans chaque convoi il y a un Unimog pour le jamming et les terros le cible car c'est le maillon faible à côté des Kirpi et des Cobra.

https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/t3520p315-armee-turque-turkish-armed-forces-turk-silahl305-kuvvetleri#255829

Good news, Aselsan a intégré son Gergedan (rhinocéros) sur le MRAP Kirpi, c'est un brouilleur RF (RF jammer), ça va être efficace contre les IED



Source : Magazine d'Aselsan.

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turkish navy exercise

Spoiler:

Leo 2A4..













Sabra:

Les Américains offrent à la marine turque 2 frégates OPH.. La marine turque (Dzkk) aura en tout 18 frégates..

Selon le livre blanc turc, la marine et l'armée de l'air prendront de la force.

~ 18 frégates (?)
~ 20 sous-marins (T-214 compris)

Il s'agit:

http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20121217/BILLS-112hr6649-SUS.pdf

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21.12.2012 Ümit Enginsoy

The Turkish Navy commences discussion of the development of new, intermediate-class frigates, the TF100, that would replace the German-made Mekos and be deployed to the Aegean and Black Sea in the next decade. The new frigate would be smaller and simpler to the main friagate TF2000

The Turkish Navy is discussing the development of new, intermediate-class frigates – currently dubbed the TF100 – that would replace the German-made Mekos and be deployed to the Aegean and Black Sea in the next decade, a senior procurement official said Dec. 19.

“Our new main frigate will remain the TF2000. The TF100, if built, would be a follow-up to the German Meko-type frigates and would be something smaller and simpler for transition to the TF2000 air defense frigates,” said the official.

The roughly 3,500-ton Meko 200-type frigates entered service in the 1990s. Turkey has about 10 8 of the frigates made by Blohm + Voss shipyards in Germany at $500 million each, including research and development expenses.

Murad Bayar, chief of the Undersecretariat of Defense Industries (SSM) procurement agency, has repeatedly said that Turkish shipyards have the capacity to build frigates, even now. “We have several military and private shipyards to build equivalents of the Meko-class frigates,” he said Dec. 19. “There is a need to replace these frigates around 2020 and we can do that.”

The SSM has not been officially informed of the TF100 frigates, but could immediately work on them once notified.

Out of service in the upcoming years

The Meko 200-class frigates have been used by the Turkish, Royal Australian, Hellenic, Portuguese and Royal New Zealand Navies since 1987, but are due to be taken out of service in the upcoming years.

The star of the Turkish Navy will be the four plus four TF2000 air defense frigates, worth up to $7 billion, to be developed in the 2020s after the completion of one-third to one-eighth of the Milgem corvettes in the second half of the 2010s.

A statement by the SSM recently said there was a need to procure air defense frigates that would provide defense against classical and modern munitions fired from aircraft and other platforms, command and control, early warning systems, reconnaissance, surface warfare, underwater warfare, electronic warfare and air defense warfare.

The procurement official said that U.S. aerospace company Lockheed Martin, British BAE Systems and Spanish Navantia were ready to participate in the program, due to be completed in 2023 alongside the 100th year of the Turkish Republic.

The navigation speed of this program’s TF2000 frigates is 18 knots and the maximum speed is 28 knots. (?)

Turkish firm Aselsan has already been given the task of developing a multipurpose radar to counter air threats, but what the program lacks is something similar to the U.S. Standard Missile 2 (or SM-2) missile, which Turkish officials are now seeking from the United States.

As reflected in its name, the TF2000 was designed in the 1990s but could not be finalized at the time due to a series of financial crises.

The procurement official said that normally this should be the last Navy program that would require foreign company assistance.

Turkey is currently continuing to produce the Milgem corvettes. The TCG Heybeliada of this class had already joined the Navy and the TCG Buyukada has been put to sea. The next meeting of the Defense Industry Executive Committee, chaired by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, is due to decide on a civilian shipyard to carry on the production.

Corvettes and frigates are the smallest of warships. As Turkey has no ocean coasts, frigates are the largest of these ships in the Turkish Navy.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tur...&NewsCatID=345

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Turkey names sites for NATO Patriot missiles near Syria

(Reuters) - Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday Patriot missiles being sent by NATO members to bolster Turkey's defenses against a possible missile attack from Syria will be deployed near the southeastern cities of Adana, Gaziantep and Kahramanmaras.

NATO approved Turkey's request for the air defense system earlier this month, in a move meant to calm Ankara's fears of being hit by Syrian missiles, possibly with chemical weapons.

Turkey, a NATO member, has repeatedly scrambled jets along the countries' joint frontier and has responded in kind when shells from Syria came down inside its borders, fanning fears that the civil war could spread to destabilize the region.

"We made our application to NATO and they gave us six batteries and they will be deployed in Gaziantep, Kahramanmaras and Adana," Erdogan told broadcaster NTV in a live interview.

The United States, the Netherlands and Germany have agreed to send two missile batteries each to Turkey along with around 400 troops from each country to operate the systems which are designed to intercept missiles or aircraft.

While the batteries were expected to be deployed near the Syrian border, Erdogan's comments were the first confirmation of their location. NATO sent a reconnaissance team to Turkey last month to determine the best sites to deploy the batteries.

Adana, Turkey's fourth-largest city, is located around 100 km (60 miles) from the Syrian border. The joint Turkish-American Incirlik Air Base is also just outside the city.

Gaziantep, a city of around 1.5 million people, is further to the east, some 60 km (35 miles) from the Syrian border. Kahramanmaras, to the north of Gaziantep, has around half a million inhabitants and is some 150 km (95 miles) from Syria.

While some foreign troops have already started arriving in Turkey with some equipment, the Patriot batteries will not arrive until early next month, with the missiles expected to be fully functional by the end of January.

Each truck-mounted Patriot battery consists of a command post, a radar to track incoming missiles, and up to eight launchers with up to eight Patriot missiles each.

The system can simultaneously track 50 targets and shoot down five. It takes about 85 soldiers to work one battery plus logistical support.

Defense experts have said it would be a stretch for six Patriot batteries to defend Turkey's 910 km (560 mile) border with Syria but that they were usually stationed to protect strategically important targets like big cities, military installations or key infrastructure.

While both Turkey and NATO have maintained the Patriots are purely for defensive purposes, Syria and its allies Russia and Iran have criticized the NATO decision, saying it increases regional tensions.

(Reporting by Seda Sezer; Editing by Jonathon Burch and Jon Hemming)

la Turquie a commandé 100 F-35A et 35 F-35B pour entrer en service en 2014 .. sachant que c'est le 2eme pays au monde qui va disposer d'un grand nombre de f35 apres l'US évidement ( plus qu'Isarel )
ça montre a quel point le projet Ottman pour dominer la région est sérieux .. car aucune chose n'est sans raison !

othman0071 a écrit:

la Turquie a commandé 100 F-35A et 35 F-35B pour entrer en service en 2014 .. sachant que c'est le 2eme pays au monde qui va disposer d'un grand nombre de f35 apres l'US évidement ( plus qu'Isarel )
ça montre a quel point le projet Ottman pour dominer la région est sérieux .. car aucune chose n'est sans raison !

plutot un leadership pas une domination

arsenik a écrit:

othman0071 a écrit:

la Turquie a commandé 100 F-35A et 35 F-35B pour entrer en service en 2014 .. sachant que c'est le 2eme pays au monde qui va disposer d'un grand nombre de f35 apres l'US évidement ( plus qu'Isarel )
ça montre a quel point le projet Ottman pour dominer la région est sérieux .. car aucune chose n'est sans raison !

plutot un leadership pas une domination

135 sa parrait énorme,mais c'est pour remplacer leur vieille flotte..