222 Abrams M1A1 SA for Morocco

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Moroccan officers experience US tanks

FORT HOOD, Texas-- Moroccan army officers visited 1st Bn., 8th Cav. Regt. during a field exercise on Fort Hood, Texas, Sept. 21

Abrams M1A1

Vous avez quoi pour appuyer vos futurs chars? M113 et VAB?

M113 , AIFV B-C25 et B 50 , VAB

Yakuza a écrit:

M113 , AIFV B-C25 et B 50 , VAB

M163 et Tanguska aussi

Il y aura surement d'autres AIFV, ou des surprises en EDA.

L'idéal est le Bradley.

Northrop a écrit:

Il y aura surement d'autres AIFV, ou des surprises en EDA.

L'idéal est le Bradley.

il y a que les saoud qui ont le bradley au m-o je crois sa m'etonerai qu'on est un truc aussi couteu que ça

entrainement: gunner, commander et driver

http://www.novamov.com/video/790cd6e4fcdba

enjoy

il se peut que le contrat soit signé avant le 30 septembre,ce qui voudrait dire qu´on aura les premiers en 2013 deja

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New customer for armaments could delay some layoffs from depot
by Laura Camper
Jul 06, 2012


Hundreds of workers from the Anniston Army Depot scheduled to be laid off by Sept. 30 may have received a reprieve from an unlikely source — Morocco.

The Kingdom of Morocco has requested the enhancement and refurbishment of 200 M1A1 tanks to M1A1 Special Armor configuration. According to a June 18 release from the Defense Security Cooperation Agency of the U.S. Department of Defense, that sale, along with radio systems, machine guns and ammunition, smoke grenade launchers, support equipment, spare and repair parts and personnel training would bring in $1.02 billion.

The refurbishment work, if approved, will be done at the Anniston Army Depot and the Joint Systems Manufacturing Center in Lima, Ohio.

Paul Ebner, public affairs officer for the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, said the release signaled the beginning of a 30-day formal notification period to Congress, which has until July 17 to pass a resolution denying the sale.

Once that deadline passes, the agency will be able to finalize the deal.

Because some of the work on the tanks would be done at the Anniston Army Depot, it could temporarily save the jobs of employees who were scheduled to be laid off, said Shrene Funderburg, president of the American Federation of Government Employees Local 1945.

“We’ve gotten some new work that will allow us to keep them on until possibly next October (2013),” Funderburg said.

The depot announced in January that nearly 500 temporary and term employees — those hired for a limited time of between one and four years — would be laid off by Sept. 30 as a result of declining demand for the equipment the depot maintains. Although she was unsure of the exact number, Funderburg said about 100 workers have already been laid off. But the remainder will stay on as foreign sales increase demand for the equipment, she said.

Nathan Hill, military liaison for the Calhoun Chamber of Commerce, said the international sales such as ones to Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Morocco are filling in a gap left by reduced U.S. demand for military equipment as the country pulls out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

“There’s still tank work out there, outside the U.S. budget,” Hill said. “It would certainly cushion the blow.”

But the increase in Anniston may only be temporary, Hill added.

“It may mean that some of these people would be able to keep their jobs for a longer period of time to meet some of these add-on requirements,” Hill said. “But the workload overall is going to be coming down which means that most of those people — I hope not — but most of those people probably are going to be terminated at a later date.”

The proposed sale is also in line with U.S. foreign policy, according the release.

“These tanks will contribute to Morocco’s goal of updating its military capability while further enhancing interoperability with the U.S. and other allies,” the release states.

Ebner said foreign sales are one way the country maintains partnerships with its allies.

“We don’t just sell the tank or the weapon or the parts, we sell everything that goes with it, so that develops a relationship,” Ebner said. “In the case of a major system like an armored personnel carrier or an aircraft or something like that, you’re talking about 15 or 20 years at least for the lifetime of that item where that relationship will continue.”

http://annistonstar.com/view/full_story/19215081/article-New-customer-for-armaments-could-delay-some-layoffs-from-depot?instance=home_lead_story

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“We’ve gotten some new work that will allow us to keep them on until possibly next October (2013),

Sa signifie donc que le refurbishment+upgrade se fera sur un peu plus d'un an! A raison de 16 tank par mois, 1 tout les deux jours... dite moi si je me trompe

plutot 10/12 tout les 3 mois me semble t-il.
s'il débute donc début 2013, on en aura une quarantaine fin 2013 (au mieux).

PGM

sans compter la formation des équipages en parallèle

Fahed64 a écrit:

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“We’ve gotten some new work that will allow us to keep them on until possibly next October (2013),

Sa signifie donc que le refurbishment+upgrade se fera sur un peu plus d'un an! A raison de 16 tank par mois, 1 tout les deux jours... dite moi si je me trompe

si l´on croit ce que dit la syndicaliste,oui 15 a 16 par mois,c´est la part de ANAD (la plant fait normalement 1 chaque 2 jours)
apres ils vont a Lima pour l´enhancement

mais tout ca depend du moment de signature du contrat par le Maroc,c´est un acte politique aussi fait au white house dans leur confrontation vs les gouveneurs/senators des 2 states et a l´US army qui veulent passer la pause sans grands degats..donc lié a la politique interieur de ce pays,d´ou la necessité de ce contrat

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Q: It recently was announced that there’s a proposal to send excess M1s [Abrams tanks] to Morocco; is that something that the Security Systems Command was involved in?

A: Yes, they were involved in that and there’s goodness in that, because a lot of the maintenance to repair those tanks and bring them up to operational standards will be done in our depots.

A great deal of that work will be put in our depots and arsenals, which keeps those skills viable and keeps the workload up so that the efficiency is there and our rates are lower. It also benefits the receiving country since they don’t have to invest in that same kind of depot; they can use our capabilities, which we’ve invested in heavily since the war.

In many cases, we came with industry to do that. The Moroccan tanks will be done both by General Dynamics in Lima and they will be done by Anniston. This is an example of the great partnership we have with industry that in many cases usasac brings to the table. But at the end of the day, our depots and arsenals are going to benefit because of the extra work.

James Dwyer
Deputy Chief of Staff, G4
U.S. Army Materiel Command
http://www.military-logistics-forum.com/military-logistics-forum/419-mlf-2012-volume-6-issue-6-july/5705-ww-qaa-james-dwyer.html

des simulateurs d´entrainement seront dans le package.
le AGTS

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Advanced Gunnery Training System (AGTS)

MISSION:

To develop and sustain individual, crew and platoon precision gunnery skills to a level of proficiency that permits transition to live-fire training or combat gunnery.

DESCRIPTION:

The AGTS is a family of gunnery training simulators for vehicle commander/gunner teams for M1A2 System Enhanced Package (SEP), M1A2, M1A1, M1A1 SA, M1A1 FEP and LAV-25 vehicles. It is rapidly transportable and deployable and features a high-fidelity crew compartment replicating the vehicle’s turret and fire control system in both physical and functional aspects. The AGTS presents the vehicle commander and gunner with a full range of simulated engagement situations. The system trains both fully-operational and degraded-mode gunnery techniques under a wide variety of conditions. The pre-programmed, computer-controlled exercises vary in target type and number, range, vehicle and target motion, and visibility. The AGTS-based systems are capable of networking to provide section, platoon and company collective gunnery training. An After Action Review capability is provided for exercise management.

www.peostri.army.mil/PRODUCTS/AGTS/





http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/gtl/documents/CS00086-15%20%28AGTS%20Product%20Card%29.pdf

Le primordial

Choukran pour la news yak

M1 Abrams ? Je n'ai pas trouvé de nouvelle, à propos de cet argument, des rumeurs tout des rumeurs, mais y a-t-il un achat ou non ?

Présente toi ici :

https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/t3342p855-presentation

Et ensuite fouille bien sur le forum, tu trouveras ton bonheur! Et oui c'est pas que des rumeurs

Valencianista18 a écrit:

M1 Abrams ? Je n'ai pas trouvé de nouvelle, à propos de cet argument, des rumeurs tout des rumeurs, mais y a-t-il un achat ou non ?

Tu as cherche j espère ca m etonnes pas de la part d un spagouin.

Bravo mille fois pour l'achat,un char à la hauteur du t90

jonas a écrit:

Par contre là,on sais tous bien que c'est un M1A2. Courage aux rechargeurs de vos m1a1saqui devras à chaque fois charger le canon!

pourquoi, le MBT 2000 n'est pas à la hauteur du T90 ?

et pour info, parceque je sens que l'abc c'est pas trop ton truc :

l'occident a sur nombre de ces MBT choisi le chargement manuel au lieu d'un caroussel automatique pour des raisons de fiabilité au combat...

Les russes , non parceque l'espace vie des tourelles est trop confiné pour intégrer un radio/LOADEUR

un caroussel qui s'enraye et c'est la mort assurée ....

...

atlas a écrit:

pourquoi, le MBT 2000 n'est pas à la hauteur du T90 ?

et pour info, parceque je sens que l'abc c'est pas trop ton truc :

l'occident a sur nombre de ces MBT choisi le chargement manuel au lieu d'un caroussel automatique pour des raisons de fiabilité au combat...

un caroussel qui s'enraye et c'est la mort assurée ....

...

C'est vrai que c'est un peu plus fiable le manuel,mais sa doit être fatiguant à la longue En plus sa rajoute un homme,donc si le char "explose" bah sa feras 4victimes

farid92700 a écrit:

atlas a écrit:

pourquoi, le MBT 2000 n'est pas à la hauteur du T90 ?

et pour info, parceque je sens que l'abc c'est pas trop ton truc :

l'occident a sur nombre de ces MBT choisi le chargement manuel au lieu d'un caroussel automatique pour des raisons de fiabilité au combat...

un caroussel qui s'enraye et c'est la mort assurée ....

...

C'est vrai que c'est un peu plus fiable le manuel,mais sa doit être fatiguant à la longue

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on tire pas pendant 2 H

un engagement c'est 12/15 CPS

Enfin bref. très belle acquisition,par contre (désolé si j'ai pas parcourus le topique) mais vos chars ressemblerons plus aux abrams australiens?