Secretary Antony J. Blinken, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, Director Yang And State Councilor Wang At the Top of Their Meeting
SECRETARY BLINKEN: Well, good afternoon, and welcome. On behalf of National Security Advisor Sullivan and myself, I want to welcome Director Yang and State Councilor Wang to Alaska, and to thank you very much for making the journey to be with us.
I just returned myself from meetings with Secretary of Defense Austin and our counterparts in Japan and the Republic of Korea, two of our nation’s closest allies. They were very interested in the discussions that we’ll have here today and tomorrow because the issues that we’ll raise are relevant not only to China and the United States, but to others across the region and indeed around the world. Our administration is committed to leading with diplomacy to advance the interests of the United States and to strengthen the rules-based international order.
That system is not an abstraction. It helps countries resolve differences peacefully, coordinate multilateral efforts effectively, and participate in global commerce with the assurance that everyone is following the same rules. The alternative to a rules-based order is a world in which might makes right and winners take all, and that would be a far more violent and unstable world for all of us. Today, we’ll have an opportunity to discuss key priorities, both domestic and global, so that China can better understand our administration’s intentions and approach.
We’ll also discuss our deep concerns with actions by China, including in Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan, cyber attacks on the United States, and economic coercion toward our allies. Each of these actions threaten the rules-based order that maintains global stability. That’s why they’re not merely internal matters and why we feel an obligation to raise these issues here today.
I said that the United States relationship with China will be competitive where it should be, collaborative where it can be, adversarial where it must be. Our discussions here in Alaska, I suspect, will run the gamut. Our intent is to be direct about our concerns, direct about our priorities, with the goal of a more clear-eyed relationship between our countries moving forward. Thank you for being here.
And before turning to you, Mr. Director, I’d like to invite National Security Advisor Sullivan to say a few words.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Secretary, and welcome to Director Yang and State Councilor Wang. It’s fitting that we’re meeting here in Alaska. We may be far from the continental United States, but there are few places that are as quintessentially American: big-hearted, resilient, intrepid. This is truly a fitting place for us to host this meeting.
Secretary Blinken and I are proud of the story about America we’re able to tell here about a country that, under President Biden’s leadership, has made major strides to control the pandemic, to rescue our economy, and to affirm the strength and staying power of our democracy. We’re particularly proud of the work that we’ve done to revitalize our alliances and partnerships, the foundation of our foreign policy. Just last week, President Biden hosted the Quad leaders’ summit that spoke to the can-do spirit of the world’s democracies and committed to realize the vision of a free and open Indo-Pacific. It is through partnerships like these that all of us can deliver progress and prosperity for our peoples.
Secretary Blinken laid out many of the areas of concern, from economic and military coercion to assaults on basic values, that we’ll discuss with you today and in the days ahead. We’ll do so frankly, directly, and with clarity. These are the concerns that are on the minds of the American people, but it goes beyond that. We’ve heard each of these concerns posed from around the world – from our allies and partners to the broader international community during the intensive consultations we’ve undertaken in the last two months.
We’ll make clear today that our overriding priority from the United States’ side is to ensure that our approach in the world and our approach to China benefits the American people and protects the interests of our allies and partners. We do not seek conflict, but we welcome stiff competition and we will always stand up for our principles, for our people, and for our friends. We look forward to discussing all of these matters with you in the hours ahead. Thank you.
DIRECTOR YANG: (In Mandarin.)
PARTICIPANT: It’s a test for the interpreter.
SECRETARY BLINKEN: We’re going to give the translator a raise. (Laughter.)
DIRECTOR YANG: (Via interpreter) Secretary Blinken and Mr. Sullivan, the State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi and I have come to Anchorage, the United States to have this strategic dialogue with the United States. We hope that this dialogue will be a sincere and candid one. Both China and the United States are major countries in the world, and together we shoulder important responsibilities to the peace, stability, and development of the world and the region. In China, we have just concluded the Lianghui, or the two sessions of the National People’s Congress and the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference. During the sessions, we adopted the outline for the 14th five-year economic and social development plan and the long-range objectives through the year 2035.
For China, we are now in a historic year where we will move from finishing the first centenary goal to the second centenary goal, and by the year 2035 China will surely achieve basic modernization. And by the year 2050, China will achieve full modernization. China has made decisive achievements and important strategic gains in fighting COVID-19, and we have achieved a full victory in ending absolute poverty in China. China’s per capita GDP is only one-fifth of that of the United States, but we have managed to end absolute poverty for all people in China. And we hope that other countries, especially the advanced countries, will make similar efforts in this regard. And China has also made historic achievements in building the country into a moderately prosperous one in all respects. The Chinese people are wholly rallying around the Communist Party of China. Our values are the same as the common values of humanity. Those are: peace, development, fairness, justice, freedom, and democracy.
What China and the international community follow or uphold is the United Nations-centered international system and the international order underpinned by international law, not what is advocated by a small number of countries of the so-called “rules-based” international order. And the United States has its style – United States-style democracy – and China has the Chinese-style democracy. It is not just up to the American people, but also the people of the world to evaluate how the United States has done in advancing its own democracy. In China’s case, after decades of reform and opening up, we have come a long way in various fields. In particular, we have engaged in tireless efforts to contribute to the peace and development of the world, and to upholding the purposes and principles of the UN Charter.
The wars in this world are launched by some other countries, which have resulted in massive casualties. But for China, what we have asked for, for other countries, is to follow a path of peaceful development, and this is the purpose of our foreign policy. We do not believe in invading through the use of force, or to topple other regimes through various means, or to massacre the people of other countries, because all of those would only cause turmoil and instability in this world. And at the end of the day, all of those would not serve the United States well.
So we believe that it is important for the United States to change its own image and to stop advancing its own democracy in the rest of the world. Many people within the United States actually have little confidence in the democracy of the United States, and they have various views regarding the Government of the United States. In China, according to opinion polls, the leaders of China have the wide support of the Chinese people. So no attempt to – the opinion polls conducted in the United States show that the leaders of China have the support of the Chinese people. No attempt to smear China’s social system would get anywhere. Facts have shown that such practices would only lead the Chinese people to rally more closely around the Communist Party of China and work steadily towards the goals that we have set for ourselves.
In 1952, China adopted its first five-year development plan, and now we are into the first year of the 14th five-year development plan. We will continue along this path, step by step. China’s development is not just about delivering benefits for the people of China, but also about contributing to the development of the world in the 21st century. China and the United States are both major countries and both shoulder important responsibilities. We must both contribute to the peace, stability, and development of the world in areas such as COVID-19, restoring economic activities in the world, and responding to climate change. There are many things that we can do together and where our interests converge.
So what we need to do is to abandon the Cold War mentality and the zero-sum game approach. We must change the way we think and make sure that in this century, the 21st century, countries big or small, particularly the big countries, should come united together to contribute to the future of humanity and build a community with a shared future for humankind. It’s also important for all of us to come together to build a new type of international relations, ensuring fairness, justice, and mutual respect. And on some regional issues, I think the problem is that the United States has exercised long-arm jurisdiction and suppression and overstretched the national security through the use of force or financial hegemony, and this has created obstacles for normal trade activities, and the United States has also been persuading some countries to launch attacks on China.
And as for China, we believe and we have handled import- and export-related issues according to scientific and technological standards. Secretary Blinken, you said you just came back from Japan and the ROK. Those two countries are China’s second and the third largest trading partners. ASEAN has now become China’s largest trading partner, overtaking the European Union and the United States. So we do hope that the United States will develop sound relations with all countries in the Asia-Pacific. We should have many mutual friends. This is the right way forward in the 21st century.
On the eve of the Chinese Lunar New Year, President Xi Jinping and President Joe Biden had a phone conversation. The two presidents agreed to step up communication, manage differences, and expand cooperation between our two countries. We are having this dialogue today to follow up on the common understanding of the two presidents reached during their phone conversation. And having this dialogue is, in fact, a decision made by the two presidents. So for the people of the two countries and the world, they’re hoping to see practical outcomes coming out of our dialogue. And with Xinjiang, Tibet, and Taiwan, they are an inalienable part of China’s territory. China is firmly opposed to U.S. interference in China’s internal affairs. We have expressed our staunch opposition to such interference and we will take firm actions in response.
On human rights, we hope that the United States will do better on human rights. China has made steady progress in human rights and the fact is that there are many problems within the United States regarding human rights, which is admitted by the U.S. itself as well. The United States has also said that countries can’t rely on force in today’s world to resolve the challenges we face. And it is a failure to use various means to topple the so-called “authoritarian” states. And the challenges facing the United States in human rights are deep-seated. They did not just emerge over the past four years, such as Black Lives Matter. It did not come up only recently. So we do hope that for our two countries, it’s important that we manage our respective affairs well instead of deflecting the blame on somebody else in this world.
And for China, we will manage our own affairs well, and we hope to deliver a better life for our 1.4 billion Chinese people. This is the goal of China’s diplomacy. And also, we will make our contribution to the peace and stability of the world. Since breaking the ice between our two countries in our engagement several decades ago, China and the United States have achieved a lot together. This is the result of the concerted efforts of the people with vision of both countries, and this past is a part of our achievements. Although so much has changed in this world, it is important that our two countries think about how we can work together and expand our cooperation under the new circumstances.
If there is competition between our two countries, I think the competition focuses on the economic aspect, and in this area, as I have said just now, for frictions in our economic engagement, it is important to respond to them in a rational way and seek win-win results. And China-U.S. trade has already achieved a lot, and we should do even better. The overwhelming majority of American businesses in China have said that China’s business environment is good and nobody has forced them to stay in China. They see a profit coming from their presence in China and they see immense opportunities in China. That’s why they are staying in China. And I believe that for our two countries, under the new circumstances, we need to enhance communication, properly manage our differences, and expand our cooperation instead of engaging in confrontation.
But between our two countries we’ve had confrontation in the past, and the result did not serve the United States well. What did the United States gain from that confrontation? I didn’t see any, and the only result was damages done to United States. And China will pull through and has pulled through such confrontation.
So the way we see the relationship with the United States is as President Xi Jinping has said – that is, we hope to see no confrontation, no conflict, mutual respect, and win-win cooperation with the United States. And actually, during the phone call between the presidents, President Biden himself also talked about the importance of having no conflict or confrontation between our two countries. So at our level, I think it’s vital that we do everything we can to fully and faithfully follow up and implement the understandings reached between our two presidents and bring back the China-U.S. relationship to the track of sound and steady growth.
On cyber attacks, let me say that whether it’s the ability to launch cyber attacks or the technologies that could be deployed, the United States is the champion in this regard. You can’t blame this problem on somebody else.
The United States itself does not represent international public opinion, and neither does the Western world. Whether judged by population scale or the trend of the world, the Western world does not represent the global public opinion. So we hope that when talking about universal values or international public opinion on the part of the United States, we hope the U.S. side will think about whether it feels reassured in saying those things, because the U.S. does not represent the world. It only represents the Government of the United States. I don’t think the overwhelming majority of countries in the world would recognize that the universal values advocated by the United States or that the opinion of the United States could represent international public opinion, and those countries would not recognize that the rules made by a small number of people would serve as the basis for the international order.
Because, Mr. Secretary and NSA Sullivan, you have delivered some quite different opening remarks, mine will be slightly different as well.
STATE COUNCILOR WANG: (Via interpreter) Well, I will stay quite brief compared with Director Yang. Secretary Blinken, NSA Sullivan, you have been involved in the relationship with China for many years, so you’re also true friends for the Chinese people. And I would say that I am pleased to meet you today, and China – the Chinese delegation – is here at the invitation of the United States. And as NSA Sullivan said, Anchorage is the midpoint of the air route connecting our two countries, and it is fair to say that this place is a refueling station for China-U.S. exchanges and also a place that China and the United States can meet each other halfway.
And China certainly in the past has not and in the future will not accept the unwarranted accusations from the U.S. side. In the past several years, China’s legitimate rights and interests have come under outright suppression, plunging the China-U.S. relationship into a period of unprecedented difficulty. This has damaged the interests of our two peoples and taken its toll on world stability and development, and this situation must no longer continue. China urges the U.S. side to fully abandon the hegemonic practice of willfully interfering in China’s internal affairs. This has been a longstanding issue and it should be changed. It is time for it to change. And in particular, on the 17th of March, the United States escalated its so-called sanctions on China regarding Hong Kong, and the Chinese people are outraged by this gross interference in China’s internal affairs and the Chinese side is firmly opposed to it.
Anchorage is a midpoint between China and the United States, but after all, it’s still the United States territory, and I accept that the Chinese delegation has come here at the invitation of the United States. However, just the other day, before our departure, the United States passed these new sanctions. This is not supposed to be the way one should welcome his guests, and we wonder if this is a decision made by the United States to try to gain some advantage in dealing with China, but certainly this is miscalculated and only reflects the vulnerability and weakness inside the United States. And this will not shake China’s position or resolve on those issues.
And let me also say that the phone conversation that President Xi Jinping and President Biden had on the eve of the Chinese New Year is a very important one, and during this phone conversation they agreed to some common understandings that have pointed the way forward for us to bring back the China-U.S. relationship onto the right track. And the international community is following very closely our dialogue for today and tomorrow. They’re watching whether our two sides will each demonstrate goodwill and sincerity, and they are watching whether this dialogue will send out a positive signal to the world.
So we will be watching what will happen today and tomorrow, and if United States is willing, I think our two sides should step up to this responsibility and deliver on this task that we are given. I will stop here. Thank you.
SECRETARY BLINKEN: Thank you very much.
(Break.)
SECRETARY BLINKEN: Mr. Director, State Councilor, given your extended remarks, permit me, please, to add just a few of my own before we get down to work, and I know Mr. Sullivan may have things to say as well.
I have to tell you, in my short time as Secretary of State, I have spoken to I think nearly a hundred counterparts from around the world, and I just made my first trip, as I noted, to Japan and South Korea. I have to tell you, what I’m hearing is very different from what you described. I’m hearing deep satisfaction that the United States is back, that we’re re-engaged with our allies and partners. I’m also hearing deep concern about some of the actions your government has taken, and we’ll have an opportunity to discuss those when we get down to work.
A hallmark of our leadership, of our engagement in the world is our alliances and our partnerships that have been built on a totally voluntary basis. And it is something that President Biden is committed to reinvigorating.
And there’s one more hallmark of our leadership here at home, and that’s a constant quest to, as we say, form a more perfect union. And that quest, by definition, acknowledges our imperfections, acknowledges that we’re not perfect, we make mistakes, we have reversals, we take steps back. But what we’ve done throughout our history is to confront those challenges openly, publicly, transparently, not trying to ignore them, not trying to pretend they don’t exist, not trying to sweep them under a rug. And sometimes it’s painful, sometimes it’s ugly, but each and every time, we have come out stronger, better, more united as a country.
I recall well when President Biden was vice president and we were visiting China. This was in the wake of the financial crisis. There was much discussion then, including with then-Vice President Xi Jinping. And Vice President Biden at the time said it’s never a good bet to bet against America, and it’s true today.
STAFF: Thank you, press.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR SULLIVAN: Just briefly, to add to what Secretary Blinken has said – because I was actually going to make the same point without us even consulting – a confident country is able to look hard at its own shortcomings and constantly seek to improve. And that is the secret sauce of America.
The other secret sauce of America is that our people are a problem-solving people, and we believe we solve problems best when we work together with allies and partners around the world.
Just a couple of weeks ago, the United States landed another rover on Mars, and it wasn’t just an American project. It had technology from multiple countries from Europe and other parts of the world. It is also going to leave behind a collection of material for Mars that the United States and Europe will build a device that can fly there to pick it up and bring it back.
That is what can be accomplished by a country that is constantly reinventing itself, working closely with others, and seeking constantly to produce the kind of progress that benefits all of us, and is rooted in a concept of human dignity and human rights that is truly universal that every man, woman, and child in this world aspires to.
So we will look forward to the conversation today, but I do hope this conversation will be one carried out with confidence on both sides. So it’s not lectures or long, winding statements; it’s the opportunity for us to explain where we’re coming from, to hear where you are coming from, and to indicate, at bottom, what our principles, our priorities, and our long-term strategies are. That’s what we hope for in the dialogue that lies ahead, that is the spirit with which we approach this, and we look forward to continuing the discussion today. Thank you, everybody.
STAFF: Thank you very much, everyone.
(Break.)
QUESTION: (Off-mike.)
DIRECTOR YANG: (Via interpreter) Well, it was my bad. When I entered this room, I should have reminded the U.S. side of paying attention to its tone in our respective opening remarks, but I didn’t.
The Chinese side felt compelled to make this speech because of the tone of the U.S. side.
Well, isn’t this the intention of United States, judging from what – or the way that you have made your opening remarks, that it wants to speak to China in a condescending way from a position of strength?
So was this carefully all planned and was it carefully orchestrated with all the preparations in place? Is that the way that you had hoped to conduct this dialogue?
Well, I think we thought too well of the United States. We thought that the U.S. side will follow the necessary diplomatic protocols. So for China it was necessary that we made our position clear.
So let me say here that, in front of the Chinese side, the United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength. The U.S. side was not even qualified to say such things even 20 years or 30 years back, because this is not the way to deal with the Chinese people. If the United States wants to deal properly with the Chinese side, then let’s follow the necessary protocols and do things the right way.
Cooperation benefits both sides. In particular, this is the expectation of the people of the world. Well, the American people are certainly a great people, but so are the Chinese people. So have the Chinese people not suffered enough in the past from the foreign countries? Well, at times I have not been sure since China started being encircled by the foreign countries.
Well, as long as China’s system is right with the wisdom of the Chinese people, there is no way to strangle China. Our history will show that one can only cause damages to himself if he wants to strangle or suppress the Chinese people.
While the United States has talked about its cooperation to land on some other planet with the European side, well, China would welcome it if there is a will to carry out similar cooperation from the United States with us.
I’ll stop here. Would the State Councilor wish to add?
STATE COUNCILOR WANG: (Via interpreter) Secretary Blinken and NSA Sullivan, you mentioned that during your engagements and the visit that Mr. Secretary had just recently, the two countries you visited mentioned coercion from China. We don’t know if this is a direct complaint coming from those countries that you visited, or is it just the United States’ own view?
Well, I think for those relationships, it brings in China’s relationship with the United States, with Japan, and with Australia. I don’t think we could know from all being together because for all of those instances, they each have their own set of issues and different positions are involved. So to accuse China of coercion even before sharing the relevant views with China, is this the right act to do? Of course not.
If the United States would indiscriminately protest and speak up for those countries just because they are your allies or partners, we believe for the long term (inaudible), then it will be very difficult for international relations to develop properly. So we don’t think one should be so testy as to accuse some other country of coercion. Who is coercing whom? I think history and the international community will come to their own conclusions.
But if the United States is interested in having those discussions with China, then we are ready to have those discussions with the U.S. side, but based on mutual respect so that we can increase our mutual understanding on those issues.
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Satellite Internet Services—Fostering the Dictator's Dilemma?
Constellations of low-altitude, low-latency satellites providing broadband internet access to wide swathes of the earth are an impending challenge to the information dominance enjoyed by the world's authoritarian states. Whether Amazon's proposed Project Kuiper, Elon Musk's Starlink (already functional in some areas of North America), or the United Kingdom funded OneWeb, the ability to provide relatively low cost internet access outside of government control is both a challenge for authoritarian states and an opportunity for democracies.
In Russia, the Duma is already considering a law to criminalize access to such satellite services. China is not only planning to launch a competing service, it has Starlink's Musk concerned about having his satellites “blown up.” North Korea, which bans its citizens from accessing the internet and (in)famously attacks leaflets with machine guns, shells loudspeakers with artillery, and punishes citizens for accessing Chinese cellphone towers, has yet to comment publicly on such services. Given this history though, Pyongyang's reaction is unlikely to be very positive.
What are low-altitude, low-latency satellites and why are authoritarian states so concerned? The problem (for authoritarians) and promise (for democracies) are the services' ability to provide broadband internet access almost anywhere on earth, with nothing new required on the ground aside from a small terminal. Because these satellites orbit at several hundred kilometers (low Earth orbit), versus 35,000km for telecommunication satellites in geostationary orbit, their terminals can be smaller, portable, and easier to conceal, smuggle, and infiltrate. With one of these terminals, users can cheaply and quickly bypass national controls on the internet and information access, plus place phone (e.g. Voice over Internet Protocol, Skype, or Zoom) calls outside of government-controlled systems. It is this freedom of information access and communication that has Russia and China so concerned, and that provides an opportunity for democratic states to rebalance their current information disadvantage.
In what some scholars have termed democracy's dilemma, nations that rely on relatively free and open information flows are vulnerable to having that openness turned against them by adversaries. Think Russian influence on Brexit, the 2016 U.S. elections and the COVID-19 infodemic. What these new satellite systems offer is an opportunity to reinvigorate the dictator's dilemma (PDF)—the fear authoritarian leaders have of nonregime narratives reaching their people, or their people communicating outside of government-approved channels.
Just how powerful is this fear? Moscow reacts more negatively to criticisms and threats to its information control than it does to (far more expensive) NATO exercises. For years, Russian state media have even coordinated to deflect these criticisms of Russia's censorship onto countries with which Moscow is in conflict, successively targeting Georgia, the United States, and Ukraine.
China's rulers have a similar view, more fearful of “American ideals of freedom, democracy, and human rights infecting the people of China and Hong Kong,” than they are of U.S. military or economic challenges. This is not a new concern for Beijing; the term Great Firewall of China was discussed in a Wired article back in 1997. Beijing's controls have expanded since, with hundreds of thousands of censors and billions of dollars spent on informational and societal control, including the uniquely intrusive social credit systems (PDF).
North Korea is an even clearer example, with years of North Korea specialists (see Lankov, Baek, Cha, Myers, and others) highlighting Pyongyang's reliance on domestic information control to keep the Kim family in power. Impressive control, but a weakness masquerading as a strength.
This desire for information control represents both the dictator's dilemma and democracy's opportunity. Beijing, Moscow, and Pyongyang (as well as Tehran and others) are clearly concerned about the threat posed by unsupervised information access. Washington (or Brussels, London, Tokyo…whomever) publicly advocating for more open internet access, coupled with a clear mention of the new satellite services, would quickly command attention and establish a compelling narrative (and underlying threat). Coupling this message with a reminder of the West's ability to challenge information controls by, for example, smuggling bulky typewriters, printing presses, and Xerox machines into Eastern Europe in the 80s, which increased the flow of uncensored information, would add credibility to the threat—if authoritarian states thought typewriters were a problem, infiltrating an “internet in a box” (or thousands of them) looms as an even more compelling danger. The physical threat of infiltrated devices combined with a narrative advocating freedom of information access provide the West with a new, information-based tool for foreign policy leverage. A tool, or active measure, based not on fear, deception, or disinformation, but simply on information access.
By offering an information-based response to an information-based attack, this tool offers a fresh, calibrated response option. Chinese cyber espionage or recent attacks on Hong Kong's civil liberties, Russian attempts to influence Brexit or U.S. elections (or the more recent SolarWinds hack), North Korean attacks on Sony or South Korea's ATM network, are all activities ripe for response. Once this tool is effectively demonstrated in terms of fostering the dictator's dilemma, democracy's response and deterrence toolkits, for both cyber and influence activities, commensurately expands.
Importantly, the utility of this information tool is not confined simply to allowing outside information in; it also allows information to flow out (especially important with North Korea). Perhaps most importantly, it provides another tool to avoid government monitoring inside an authoritarian state. When paired with mesh networks of the type used, for example, during demonstrations in Hong Kong, it further increases the opportunity for the free flow of information dictators perceive as so threatening.
This tool (or its threatened use) does not replace other foreign policy tools—diplomatic, economic, and military tools remain options; this proposal simply adds a new information-based capability. The tool fits within a historical context of Western information activities and offers a compelling public narrative—fighting censorship. The hardware costs are relatively low, largely borne by the companies launching the satellites, and coming into existence whether governments wish them to or not. Finally, by rebalancing democracy's dilemma through a reinforcement of the dictator's dilemma, this tool offers an information response to information/cyber/influence attacks, using a method that clearly targets the vulnerabilities and sensitivities of authoritarian adversaries.
The technological change is underway. Authoritarian states are already passing new laws and reacting to the threat. Democracies can choose to harness these tools, or ignore them.
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Amensty Internatinal prise au piège de ses contradictions raciales (rapport)
mardi, 20 avril, 2021 à 21:56
Londres – Amnesty International (AI) a une culture de privilège blanc avec des incidents de racisme manifeste, qui mettent l’ONG devant ses propres contradictions, selon un examen interne de son secrétariat international.
Le journal britannique “The Guardian” rapporte, mardi, que huit employés actuels et anciens d’AI au Royaume-Uni (AIUK) ont décrit leurs propres expériences de discrimination raciale et publié une déclaration appelant les hauts responsables à démissionner.
“Nous avons rejoint Amnesty dans l’espoir de faire campagne contre les violations des droits humains, mais nous avons plutôt été déçus en réalisant que l’organisation avait en fait contribué à les perpétuer”, a déclaré Katherine Odukoya, l’une des dénonciatrices.
Les représentants des deux branches de l’organisation de défense des droits de l’homme basée au Royaume-Uni se sont excusés et se sont engagés à apporter des changements, le directeur de l’AIUK citant “le fait inconfortable que nous n’ayons pas été assez bons”.
L’examen interne du secrétariat international d’AI, commandé à la suite du mouvement Black Lives Matter, a recensé plusieurs exemples de travailleurs rapportant des allégations de racisme. Evoquant l’utilisation de termes impropres par de hauts responsables d’AI, le rapport fait état de préjugés systémiques, y compris l’interrogation du personnel noir sans justification, et la mise à l’écart de projets de personnel appartenant à des minorités ethniques.
Le rapport signale un manque de sensibilisation ou de sensibilité aux pratiques religieuses entraînant des commentaires et des comportements problématiques, ainsi qu’un comportement agressif et méprisant, en particulier par courrier électronique et souvent dirigé vers le personnel des bureaux de l’hémisphère sud de la planète.
Citant le meurtre de George Floyd, AI a indiqué, dans un e-mail en juin 2019, que le racisme était inscrit dans le “modèle organisationnel” de l’organisation des droits de l’homme, qui avait été façonné par la “dynamique coloniale et les frontières” qui étaient “fraîches” au moment de sa fondation en 1961.
“Malgré quelques changements notables et durement gagnés ces dernières années, le contrôle et l’influence sur nos ressources, la prise de décision … sont restés majoritairement entre les mains de personnes de la majorité blanche du Nord”, a révélé le rapport.
Il a fait état de préjugés et d’insensibilité dans la façon dont certaines personnes étaient traitées au secrétariat international – le bras de l’organisation qui définit la politique et embauche des chercheurs de centres à travers le monde.
Le conseil a ensuite informé le personnel qu’un examen indépendant aurait lieu et au cours des mois suivants, des experts du cabinet de conseil Howlett Brown ont effectué un “contrôle de température”.
Les experts ont eu accès à des sondages auprès du personnel et ont organisé six groupes de discussion composés de 51 employés, dont deux exclusivement occupés par du personnel noir. Publié en octobre 2020 mais non communiqué par la presse, le rapport interne de 46 pages de Howlett Brown, a conclu que l’image externe du secrétariat international d’Amnesty était différente de sa face interne.
Les experts ont recommandé que pour résoudre les problèmes, il faudrait reconnaître les “privilèges systémiques existants”.
L’équipe dirigeante de la coalition d’Amnesty International s’est dite “dégrisée” par les résultats, ajoutant que “c’est un rappel opportun que la discrimination, le racisme anti-noir existent dans notre organisation”.
Dans une déclaration publiée parallèlement au rapport, la même équipe estime que ce rappel “a mis en évidence à la fois l’étendue et la nature systématique du racisme et indique que nous devons nous attaquer au privilège des Blancs partout où il existe”.
Par ailleurs, le personnel de l’AIUK, également basé à Londres mais disposant d’une structure d’emploi distincte du secrétariat international, a fait état d’expériences de discriminations raciales similaires à la culture du secrétariat international.
Certains ont déclaré au Guardian se sentir “déshumanisés” à cause de leur race et de leur appartenance ethnique pendant un certain nombre d’années, d’autres faisant état de griefs officiels.
Dans une déclaration commune, deux employés actuels et six anciens employés de l’AIUK ont appelé le directeur, l’équipe de direction et le conseil d’administration à démissionner, affirmant que les dirigeants “avaient sciemment confirmé le racisme et avaient fait du tort au personnel issu de minorités ethniques”.
C’est le cas d’Odukoya qui a assuré, qu’en tant que femme noire, elle était constamment épuisée mentalement à naviguer dans un environnement “hostile à la noirceur”.
“Il existe une culture hégémonique de la classe moyenne blanche qui semble être protégée et reproduite. Le privilège des Blancs était omniprésent”, a-t-elle dit.
En 2019, elle a soulevé un grief concernant la discrimination raciale et sexuelle, alléguant qu’elle avait été manipulée pour travailler incorrectement au-dessus de son niveau de rémunération.
Kieran Aldred (31 ans) a affirmé que le leadership de l’AIUK était activement préjudiciable au personnel d’origine ethnique minoritaire, souvent négligé pour les promotions, alors que les révisions salariales favorisent systématiquement les hauts dirigeants blancs à hauts revenus.
“Travailler pour AIUK a détruit ma confiance en moi, ma croyance en mes capacités. Je ne pensais pas être suffisamment qualifié pour faire mon travail, qu’aucune organisation ne m’embaucherait, encore moins me promouvrait, et je souffrais de dépression et d’anxiété persistantes”, a déclaré Aldred.
Kate Allen, la directrice de l’AIUK, s’est excusée, affirmant qu’il s’agissait de préoccupations graves et stimulantes et, bien qu’elle ne puisse pas discuter de cas individuels, les allégations de discrimination seraient prises au sérieux et feraient l’objet d’une enquête.
“Nous savons que le racisme institutionnel existe au Royaume-Uni et, comme toute autre organisation, nous ne sommes pas à l’abri de ce problème réel”, a-t-elle dit.
En réponse au rapport Howlett Brown, elle a assuré que le secrétariat international avait également pris des mesures importantes pour donner suite à ses conclusions.
Amnesty International a déclaré qu’elle s’excusait de tout cœur auprès de tout membre du personnel victime de discrimination, ajoutant que les comptes rendus détaillés dans le rapport Howlett Brown étaient “inacceptables”.
En février 2019, il a été révélé qu’Amnesty International avait un environnement de travail “toxique”. Un examen de la culture du lieu de travail, commandé après le suicide de deux membres du personnel en 2018, a révélé des brimades généralisées.
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Ils ont détourné l'avion à l'aide d'un chasseur
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Ils ont détourné l'avion à l'aide d'un chasseur
c'est ce qui aurait du etre fait pour l'autre ordure
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non, là c'est vraiment très grave, ils envisage d'interdire le survol de l'espace aérien Belarusse et l'interdiction des vols dont l'origine est la bélarusse.
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Personne n'a rien dit quand l'avion du président morales a été détourné au dessus de l'autriche pour vérifier si Snowden était dedans et la on parle d'un avion présidentiel pas de charter de rayanair. C'est le 2 poids 2 mesures entre les faible et les puissants. Bravo à la Biélorussie
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Tu devrais poster en cyrillique
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Tu devrais poster en cyrillique
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il devrait rien poster tout simplement.
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Personne n'a rien dit sur quand l'avion du président morales a été détourné au dessus de l'autriche pour vérifier si Snowden était dedans et la on parle d'un avion présidentiel pas de charter de rayanair. C'est le 2 poids 2 mesures entre les faible et les puissants. Bravo à la Biélorussie
C'est quand vous voulez... comme avec l'avion brézilien qui a livré le don de vaccins covid fait par israêl à l'algérie.
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Personne n'a rien dit sur quand l'avion du président morales a été détourné au dessus de l'autriche pour vérifier si Snowden était dedans et la on parle d'un avion présidentiel pas de charter de rayanair. C'est le 2 poids 2 mesures entre les faible et les puissants. Bravo à la Biélorussie
C'est quand vous voulez... comme avec l'avion brézilien qui a livré le don de vaccins covid fait par israêl à l'algérie.
Il y a suffisement de sujet sur l'Algerie pour la ramener partout c'est quoi le rapport ? Hélas il y a pas de vaccin contre l'algerianite aigu
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Personne n'a rien dit sur quand l'avion du président morales a été détourné au dessus de l'autriche pour vérifier si Snowden était dedans et la on parle d'un avion présidentiel pas de charter de rayanair. C'est le 2 poids 2 mesures entre les faible et les puissants. Bravo à la Biélorussie
C'est quand vous voulez... comme avec l'avion brézilien qui a livré le don de vaccins covid fait par israêl à l'algérie.
Il y a suffisement de sujet sur l'Algerie pour la ramener partout c'est quoi le rapport ? Hélas il y a pas de vaccin contre l'algerianite aigu
Sisi, c'est le Smecta. tu évacue quand-même...
(quand je parle de l'algérie, je vise les harkis en kaki ainsi que les constipés qui vous servent de ministre et président de bar PMU et non pas le peuple).
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C'est quand vous voulez... comme avec l'avion brézilien qui a livré le don de vaccins covid fait par israêl à l'algérie.
Il y a suffisement de sujet sur l'Algerie pour la ramener partout c'est quoi le rapport ? Hélas il y a pas de vaccin contre l'algerianite aigu
Sisi, c'est le Smecta. tu évacue quand-même...
(quand je parle de l'algérie, je vise les harkis en kaki ainsi que les constipés qui vous servent de ministre et président de bar PMU et non pas le peuple).
les algériens lambda ils sont bien acceuilis au maroc à l'image de l'équipe de la Mouloudia d'Alger lors de leurs match contre le Wydad ce week end , ils se sont bien rassasier à l'hotel (fruits, bananes, lait et yarhout.... (c'est pas moi qui le dit mais les gars qui travaillent à l'hôtel, ils ont pris plein de selfies avec les banaes, kiwi et mangues...). le lendemain, ils se sont filmés entrain de faire le souk pour acheter les habits traditionnels algériens pour leurs femmes, copines et enfants. j'ai jamais vu une délégation d'un club composé de 23 jours et 45 membre accompagnateur...... je voulais pas posté ce HS, mais c'est justement par rapport à la différence entre algériens et algériens en kaki.
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Il y a suffisement de sujet sur l'Algerie pour la ramener partout c'est quoi le rapport ? Hélas il y a pas de vaccin contre l'algerianite aigu
Sisi, c'est le Smecta. tu évacue quand-même...
(quand je parle de l'algérie, je vise les harkis en kaki ainsi que les constipés qui vous servent de ministre et président de bar PMU et non pas le peuple).
les algériens lambda ils sont bien acceuilis au maroc à l'image de l'équipe de la Mouloudia d'Alger lors de leurs match contre le Wydad ce week end , ils se sont bien rassasier à l'hotel (fruits, bananes, lait et yarhout.... (c'est pas moi qui le dit mais les gars qui travaillent à l'hôtel, ils ont pris plein de selfies avec les banaes, kiwi et mangues...). le lendemain, ils se sont filmés entrain de faire le souk pour acheter les habits traditionnels algériens pour leurs femmes, copines et enfants. j'ai jamais vu une délégation d'un club composé de 23 jours et 45 membre accompagnateur...... je voulais pas posté ce HS, mais c'est justement par rapport à la différence entre algériens et algériens en kaki.
Mais Biensur, l'équipe d'Algérie c'est quasiment tous des internationaux jouant dans des grand club, pour la plupart d'entre eux sans doute millionaire mais ils sont heureux de trouver des bananes au Maroc sinon ils en auraient jamais vu de leurs vie dans aucun pays du monde
Le sujet c'est la Biélorussie et le détournement des avion, mon message c'est pour montrer comment on traite l'actualité en Europe en fonction qu'on est fort ou faible, entre l'avion de Morales et celui de la Biélorussie. Ce n'est pas une question de fruit et légume fantesiste ou de l'Algérie avec des vaccin sans aucun rapport avec le sujet du début
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Sujet: Re: Actualités internationales Lun 24 Mai 2021 - 12:25
On arrête le HS
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Personne n'a rien dit quand l'avion du président morales a été détourné au dessus de l'autriche pour vérifier si Snowden était dedans et la on parle d'un avion présidentiel pas de charter de rayanair. C'est le 2 poids 2 mesures entre les faible et les puissants. Bravo à la Biélorussie
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là ca dépasse toute logique et toute raison, le président Morales, peut porter pleinte contre X ou Y ou refuser tout simplement qu'ils montent dans spn avion, ca le regarde.
là il s'agit de la piraterie, et même si je suis d'accord avec poutine dans certains sujets, là c'est absurde, de prendre en otage 170 personnes pour kidnapper 1, et en usant de la force et de la menace contre un avion civil, imaginez que les provisions de pétrole dans cet avion étaient du juste-juste et qu'il a pas pu terminer sa route jusqu'à Minsk...
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Personne n'a rien dit quand l'avion du président morales a été détourné au dessus de l'autriche pour vérifier si Snowden était dedans et la on parle d'un avion présidentiel pas de charter de rayanair. C'est le 2 poids 2 mesures entre les faible et les puissants. Bravo à la Biélorussie
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là ca dépasse toute logique et toute raison, le président Morales, peut porter pleinte contre X ou Y ou refuser tout simplement qu'ils montent dans spn avion, ca le regarde.
là il s'agit de la piraterie, et même si je suis d'accord avec poutine dans certains sujets, là c'est absurde, de prendre en otage 170 personnes pour kidnapper 1, et en usant de la force et de la menace contre un avion civil, imaginez que les provisions de pétrole dans cet avion étaient du juste-juste et qu'il a pas pu terminer sa route jusqu'à Minsk...
Il était au dessus quand il a été détourné, il devait allé vers la litiuanie plus loin au nord. Non c'est pareil et même plus grave, parceque l'espace aérien de la France Italie Espagne à était fermé à morales et il a été obligé d'atterrir en Autriche parcequ'il y avait plus de carburant dans l'avion, c'est un détournement aussi
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Sujet: Re: Actualités internationales Lun 24 Mai 2021 - 13:03
biensur, la logique est la même, sauf que ca va devenir un jeu d'enfant, et la prochaine fois, quand tu sera toi même, ta femme et tes enfants à l'intérieur d'un avion, tu me dira ton ressenti....
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biensur, la logique est la même, sauf que ca va devenir un jeu d'enfant, et la prochaine fois, quand tu sera toi même, ta femme et tes enfants à l'intérieur d'un avion, tu me dira ton ressenti....
Je ne dis pas le contraire, c'est condamnable dans tout les cas, je parle du traitement médiatique en Occident en fonction que l'état est fort ou faible ou qu'on veut lui nuire.
Sujet: Re: Actualités internationales Lun 24 Mai 2021 - 15:53
https://www.letemps.ch/monde/biden-poutine-piste-genevoise-se-rechauffe a écrit:
Biden et Poutine devrait se rencontrer en Juin prochain en Suisse...( Pour l'instant Biden dans sa politique étrangère ne dérive pas de celle de Trump NS2, Afghanistan, Chine, et même la Russie Trump a voulu organiser une rencontre au sommet avec Poutine ce qu'il y'a valu les accusations de l'implication russe dans les élections...)
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Sujet: Re: Actualités internationales Mar 25 Mai 2021 - 18:07
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/05/25/statement-by-white-house-press-secretary-jen-psaki-on-the-meeting-between-president-joe-biden-and-president-vladimir-putin-of-russia/ a écrit:
C'est désormais officiel il y'aura bien une rencontre Poutine-Biden le 16 Juin prochain
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