Guerre Israël-Gaza Octobre 2023

Duneraider a écrit:

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"Israeli armored vehicles destroyed/abandoned n Gaza " this picture is shared by some Palestinian telegram groups  



None of those vehicles are destroyed, very dirty, and some are slightly damaged (you can see one cope cage damaged), the photo itself was shared by the IDF spokesperson. We should be very wary of propaganda posts from both sides.

Here is the original tweet from the IDF spokesperson

https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson/status/1724004288421122206?t=zWkXrsEJVFc2neuDbSTlPA&s=19

You can clearly see that some of these vehicles are partially damaged or partially burned. Look at that bulldozer, how it's almost upside down. Palestinian sources claim that these vehicles were eventually abandoned by IDF.

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Duneraider a écrit:

replaysat a écrit:

"Israeli armored vehicles destroyed/abandoned n Gaza " this picture is shared by some Palestinian telegram groups  



None of those vehicles are destroyed, very dirty, and some are slightly damaged (you can see one cope cage damaged), the photo itself was shared by the IDF spokesperson. We should be very wary of propaganda posts from both sides.

Here is the original tweet from the IDF spokesperson

https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson/status/1724004288421122206?t=zWkXrsEJVFc2neuDbSTlPA&s=19

You can clearly see that some of these vehicles are partially damaged or partially burned. Look at that bulldozer, how it's almost upside down. Palestinian sources claim that these vehicles were eventually abandoned by IDF.

A lot of dirt, burn marks, and some missing or torn-off panels do not mean the vehicle is destroyed, there is even luggage on pretty much all those vehicles. Check the photo in HD in the link I sent and you can see it much better, there is barely any noticeable major damage, the bulldozer is not almost upside down, it's on top of a ramp, and you can zoom in the HD photograph.
Why would an IDF official share a photo of their vehicles being surrounded and abandoned?
When it comes to things like these, Palestinian sources would definitely try to claim a certain victory scenario, it's just how war is conducted. But there is really no way any of the vehicles we see in that photo are destroyed. Unless there is some photo of the aftermath circulating somewhere, I'd be glad to see that.

Qassam en action

Abu Ubaida : Nous avons informé les médiateurs que pour une trêve de 5 jours, nous pourrions libérer 50 enfants et femmes détenus à Gaza, et que leur nombre pourrait atteindre 70

Il ne faut pas croire tous ce que les medias disent surtout les medias pro-Israel. J'ai essayé,, pour mieux comprendre le conflit, de regarder les affirmations des deux cotés mais ça se voit qui a raison. Il faut juste etudier un peu d'histoire et en moins être humain pour comprendre.

Un responsable du renseignement américain a maintenant déclaré que les preuves fournies par Israël selon lesquelles un centre de commandement et d'opérations du Hamas se trouve sous le centre médical Al-Shifa dans la ville de Gaza sont vraies, affirmant en outre que le carburant fourni à l'hôpital est souvent volé par des combattants du Hamas qui se rassemblent régulièrement autour de l'hôpital afin d'utiliser l'établissement et ses patients comme « boucliers humains ».

Les américains qui confirment la version israélienne, manquerait plus que Collin Powell ramène une fiole et dise qu'elle contient du fioul volé à Al-Shifa, et qu'ils l'ont trouvé dans le pantalon d'un combattant du Hamas

elite17 a écrit:

Qassam en action

https://x.com/warmonitors/status/1724150066720522353?s=46&t=qYiNwrtc2-LyNoCLuUIqQw

Achmen action hadi ya rien de convaincant. Je suis même pas sur que leur missile anti tank blesse les soldat de tsahal ça a l air mou

Duneraider a écrit:

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Duneraider a écrit:

You can clearly see that some of these vehicles are partially damaged or partially burned. Look at that bulldozer, how it's almost upside down. Palestinian sources claim that these vehicles were eventually abandoned by IDF.

A lot of dirt, burn marks, and some missing or torn-off panels do not mean the vehicle is destroyed, there is even luggage on pretty much all those vehicles. Check the photo in HD in the link I sent and you can see it much better, there is barely any noticeable major damage, the bulldozer is not almost upside down, it's on top of a ramp, and you can zoom in the HD photograph.
Why would an IDF official share a photo of their vehicles being surrounded and abandoned?
When it comes to things like these, Palestinian sources would definitely try to claim a certain victory scenario, it's just how war is conducted. But there is really no way any of the vehicles we see in that photo are destroyed. Unless there is some photo of the aftermath circulating somewhere, I'd be glad to see that.

Hi Duneraider,

I wasn't there so I can't tell you what exactly happened ;-) There is also very little information from there. I just said they were partially damaged/burned but not destroyed and that they are abandoned. At least that is what the Palestinians claim. But anyway, none of us knows the truth. It is just clear that there was a battle there. I don't know why IDF publishes this photo. Sometimes they show that they transport the wounded or dead soldiers in helicopters, so maybe just to admit that they, sometimes, have losses too?

#Palestinian s #al_Qassam/#Hamas released footage of a female Israeli soldier in captivity who was killed by zionizt self & it means Israeli airstrike on 9 November

Before she a plea message to be released

But I read today the captiv soldiers means dead soldiers to zionizt
New pic.twitter.com/cuO953m75R

— SyriaWarNews (@ZAM90Z) November 13, 2023

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Duneraider a écrit:

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You can clearly see that some of these vehicles are partially damaged or partially burned. Look at that bulldozer, how it's almost upside down. Palestinian sources claim that these vehicles were eventually abandoned by IDF.

A lot of dirt, burn marks, and some missing or torn-off panels do not mean the vehicle is destroyed, there is even luggage on pretty much all those vehicles. Check the photo in HD in the link I sent and you can see it much better, there is barely any noticeable major damage, the bulldozer is not almost upside down, it's on top of a ramp, and you can zoom in the HD photograph.
Why would an IDF official share a photo of their vehicles being surrounded and abandoned?
When it comes to things like these, Palestinian sources would definitely try to claim a certain victory scenario, it's just how war is conducted. But there is really no way any of the vehicles we see in that photo are destroyed. Unless there is some photo of the aftermath circulating somewhere, I'd be glad to see that.

Hi Duneraider,

I wasn't there so I can't tell you what exactly happened ;-) There is also very little information from there. I just said they were partially damaged/burned but not destroyed and that they are abandoned. At least that is what the Palestinians claim. But anyway, none of us knows the truth. It is just clear that there was a battle there. I don't know why IDF publishes this photo. Sometimes they show that they transport the wounded or dead soldiers in helicopters, so maybe just to admit that they, sometimes, have losses too?

War is a confusing mess sadly. And respectful as always sir

Arrow 3

Ministère israélien des Affaires étrangères : Nous n’accordons pas beaucoup d’importance à l’opinion publique mondiale concernant la guerre à Gaza cette fois

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https://x.com/Ioan2010link/status/1724169360401428626?s=20

En tout cas c est bien un variateur de panneau solaire car j ai le même c est la marque chinoise INVT

Duneraider a écrit:

A lot of dirt, burn marks, and some missing or torn-off panels do not mean the vehicle is destroyed, there is even luggage on pretty much all those vehicles. Check the photo in HD in the link I sent and you can see it much better, there is barely any noticeable major damage, the bulldozer is not almost upside down, it's on top of a ramp, and you can zoom in the HD photograph.
Why would an IDF official share a photo of their vehicles being surrounded and abandoned?
When it comes to things like these, Palestinian sources would definitely try to claim a certain victory scenario, it's just how war is conducted. But there is really no way any of the vehicles we see in that photo are destroyed. Unless there is some photo of the aftermath circulating somewhere, I'd be glad to see that.

Well i guess when there is no hope , people usually create one .

Anyways the picture was taken by the IDF , and on the video below at 00:08 you can see IDF soldiers filming it while sitting comfortably behind what is supposed to be a “kill zone” (if it makes any sense)

+ 2 Morts de Tsahal

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IDF en action

Source de la défense israélienne : Tsahal est pleinement capable d’attaquer l’hôpital Shifa de Gaza, en attendant l’ordre des dirigeants politiques ; Israël estime que les chefs terroristes du Hamas qui s'étaient cachés sous un hôpital se sont enfuis vers le sud de Gaza, peut-être avec des otages.