Armée Algérienne (ANP) - Tome XIV

Anzarane a écrit:

25Md$ rien que ça........un tel budget c'est pour des gros contrats or sont plus gros fournisseur est empêtrer dans une guerre et ne peux pas garantir de nouvelles commandes.
Peut-etre du coté chinois car je vois pas leurs aviation basculer vers du matos occidental!!!

Selon le taux officiel du dinar ou du marché noir??

with the real exchange rate the budget would be more like 15bn USD, and could get even worse in the next months. Not sure how they handle foreign exchanges and deals when the official rate is half of the rate in the street

2 de choses l'une:

- Soit c'est du bluff et cela inclus les lignes de crédit car on a rien vu de "gros" de signer contrairement à la période faste de 2006-2013. Donc effet d'annonce pour se donner une image de puissance.

- Soit c'est sérieux, leur achats se font de manière "discrets" (chose quasi impossible en 2024) et la clairement il y a une préparation de conflit en court. Cependant au vue des sommes officielles folles sur les 3 dernières année ( on parle de plus que 60B$), soit l'ANP va se transformer en une puissance quasi otanienne moyenne, soit ils ont dilapidé leur dernière ressource pour du sable...

En 2024, rien que les salaires des militaires c'est 10 Mds$ ! et en hausse 11% en 2025 en moyenne !

En plus du coût de la maintenance, des exercices en munition réelle, du Polisario, de la logistique et de la fournitures !

Il reste combien réellement comme budget pour les nouvelles acquisition ?

De plus, des nouvelles armes ont besoin de recrutement et de formation et de temps d’intégration !

Or it's primarily an increase in operating budget rather than investment budget; which means either they are going to hire a great number, or it's simply reflecting the increased costs of the things they import to keep running, or they are getting ready for a conflict so putting it in the budget.

Otherwise I am sure as soon as we have the french orders announced with the visit in Nov. they will announce some new purchases, ever the game of tit for tat

Radar Podlet-K1 en Algérie

https://defense-arab.com/vb/threads/199253/

Les forces ukrainiennes utilisent des drones polonais Warmate pour détruire les radars russes Repeynik et Podlet-K1 .

https://armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/army-news-2024/ukrainian-forces-use-polish-warmate-drones-to-destroy-russian-radars-repeynik-and-podlet-k1

L'ANP prépare le défilé militaire du 1er Novembre ! 70 vols annulés à Alger !

Les vols en Algérie sont annulés parce que les hommes enduits d'huile pourraient réfléchir la lumière dans le ciel et éblouir les pilotes. LINK

Non non croyez moi ils vont essayer de faire une folie ils vont attaquer le 1er novembre

Would make sense honestly and probably if not this year then soon. They have been getting ready since the duo chengriha Tebboune took over:
- over-diabolization of Morocco and now trying to create  itense hatred
- double tightening the purse for 2 years to save forex while having a positive balance of payment and commercial balance; getting ready for sanctions maybe?
- militarizing the border with many bases
- pushing for import substitution and internal autarchy policies
- fighting and economic blockade of key economic partners to get the local actors to shift partners to non European ones

Honestly sounds to me like a country getting ready to go to war, and not small squirmishes and whatnot if they have sanctions in mind...we better be ready and for a large scale wheater it comes or not

Ils n'ont pas les moyens d'un long conflit aussi con qu'ils sont la Russie-Ukraine comme exemple vivant.........que leurs reste comme option pour eviter l'enlisement c'est une attaque genre Blitzkrieg qui n'est du tout dans leurs culture.
Sans oublier que nos services veille au grain.

L'ANP est entrain de construire un mur de défense avec le Mali !!

Are we going to leave this unanswered? this has a 500km radius, and from the border they would be able to comfortably hit Tangier, Rabat, Casablanca. On the other side we are getting at best a 300km radius which doesn't really touch anything critical

I don't see how being silent on our intentions and future purchases will help us deter these mad dogs?

Antares a écrit:

https://armees.com/algerie-missiles-balistiques-iskander-e-russie/

Are we going to leave this unanswered? this has a 500km radius, and from the border they would be able to comfortably hit Tangier, Rabat, Casablanca. On the other side we are getting at best a 300km radius which doesn't really touch anything critical

I don't see how being silent on our intentions and future purchases will help us deter these mad dogs?

Je pense que la version iskander e d’export est bridée à 280 km

I think it's the first time they are going to parade it in this independence celebration? Hence the press talking about it

As for the variant, we don't know what goes on between partners and Russia isn't really the one to trust for MTCR compliance, so better consider that the launchers could be equipped with the right time of SRBMs that can hit at 500km

Antares a écrit:

I think it's the first time they are going to parade it in this independence celebration? Hence the press talking about it

As for the variant, we don't know what goes on between partners and Russia isn't really the one to trust for MTCR compliance, so better consider that the launchers could be equipped with the right time of SRBMs that can hit at 500km

No worries
it looks big and scary that’s what they are built for but mostly inefficient an lack precision and technicality

exactly like the other toys of the armed cohorts of the Zwawis



It would be useful to know more about the ennemis قشاوش عشروا

Some interesting insights about Iskander:
In the most recent war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Armenia used the Russian-supplied Iskander-E. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan stated that 90 percent of the Iskander missiles “didn’t explode, or maybe 10 percent of them exploded,”

Russian journalist Pavel Felgenhauer observed, “The Iskander as well as other Russian non-strategic missiles can be truly effective only with a nuclear warhead—apparently the way it is intended to primarily be used in any peer-to-peer conflict.” While Russian technical inferiority also plays a role, Mr. Felgenhauer is likely correct.

the Pentagon claimed Russia had launched more than 1,400 missiles and that its residual inventory is the lowest in cruise missiles. In late May, Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky stated that Russia had launched 2,154 missiles and Ukraine believes Russia has depleted 60 percent of its precision-missile arsenal.

the Pentagon stated that the “Russians have launched a lot of missiles,” but Russia was experiencing “a significant amount of [missile] failure” including “failure to actually launch or failure to hit the target.”

Malgré tout ça il faut se préparer au pire scénario. C'est à dire une portée de 500 km et une fiabilité de 10 à 15 mètres du cible. Avec ça on doit savoir comment agir en conséquence. Batterie anti missiles balistique. Est ce que le Hawk est capable de l'intercepter ou on doit acquérir un nouveau système. Mais si on minimise les menaces j'ai peur qu'un jour on se retrouve dépasser par les événements.

Iskander est un missile supersonique jusqu’à Mach 6.
L’anp a reçu entre 2014 et 2017 4 régiments équipés d’Iskander-E (comprising around 50 vehicles and in total 48 missiles per regiment, including 12 launchers, 12 transporter-loaders, 11 command vehicles, and various support vehicles).

Un bon article de l’US Naval Institute sur les capacités réelles des missiles russes durant les guerres en Arménie et en Ukraine.

Lessons from Russian Missile Performance in Ukraine
By Mark B. Schneider
October 2022 Proceedings Vol. 148/10/1,436
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The 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine has involved the largest use of land-attack missiles in history, with launches from all basing modes. On 21 March, the Pentagon stated that the “Russians have launched more than 1,100 missiles,” and that “they have also suffered a not-insignificant number of failures of those munitions.” Four days later, the Pentagon added that “they’re still launching a lot of missiles,” but Russia was experiencing “a significant amount of [missile] failure” including “failure to actually launch or failure to hit the target.”

On 4 April, the Pentagon claimed Russia had launched more than 1,400 missiles and that its residual inventory is the lowest in cruise missiles. In late May, Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky stated that Russia had launched 2,154 missiles and Ukraine believes Russia has depleted 60 percent of its precision-missile arsenal. Since April, resupply has been difficult and inventory depletion has continued.

This very large expenditure of missiles was clearly not planned because Russia expected a quick victory. Russia’s efforts to replace its missiles will be very difficult because of cost, production limitations, and the impact of the sanctions. Worse still, from a Russian standpoint, is that the attacks have demonstrated there are significant problems with the performance of Russian cruise missiles.

Excessive Failure Rate
On 25 March, the Pentagon confirmed press reports that various Russian missiles were experiencing failure rates of 20 to 60 percent (failure was defined as the inability to launch or hit the target) with “cruise missiles, particularly air-launched cruise missiles” having the lowest kill rates. Reportedly, some missiles did not explode even when they hit their targets. Thus, in addition to the reliability and quality control problems with the missiles, they apparently have a fusing problem.

On 10 May, the Pentagon confirmed that Russia had depleted its missile inventory and that it was “running through their precision-guided missiles at a pretty fast clip” and was “running the lowest on cruise missiles, particularly air-launched cruise missiles,” but Moscow still had more than 50 percent of its prewar inventory. Since then, missile use has continued, but at much-reduced rates.

Inflated Expectations
For a long time, the Russian military has claimed that its nonstrategic ballistic and cruise missiles and strategic long-range cruise missiles have accuracies measured in a few meters. Former Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov (now head of Russia’s Space Agency), who handled defense procurement, stated that the Kh-101, Bastion, Bal, Kalibr, Iskander (hypersonic at longer ranges), and Kinzhal hypersonic missiles were high-precision missiles and that “high-precision munitions have the error probability of just a few meters. They can travel hundreds of kilometers and have next to zero CEP.” Even before the war, there was some evidence that this was not the case.

In 2017, a noted Russian military journalist pointed out in state media that the Kalibr naval cruise missile had an accuracy of 30 meters and the Kh-101 air-launched cruise missile had an “accuracy of five to 50 meters,” which is quite different than a “few meters” or near-zero CEP. While the variation in accuracy is not explained, 50 meters is not even close to near-precision accuracy. In January 2022, U.S. Army Chief of Staff General James McConville said that Russian hypersonic missiles were not a game changer because, “I have not seen them actually hit a target with that system.”1 U.S. Northern Command Commander General Glen VanHerck has said Russia has “challenges” regarding accuracy of its hypersonic missiles. He added that Russian missiles were still “on par” with U.S. missiles. This is apparently a reference to capabilities that Russian missiles have but U.S. missiles do not—supersonic and hypersonic speed, very long range, dual capability, and, in many cases, antiship capability (until recently when the United States began to introduce longer-range antiship missiles). These are important characteristics that don’t play much of a role in Russia’s war with Ukraine but which would be much more important in a war against NATO or against the United States and its Pacific allies.

In the most recent war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Armenia used the Russian-supplied Iskander-E. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan stated that 90 percent of the Iskander missiles “didn’t explode, or maybe 10 percent of them exploded,” although he later backed away from this statement. The problem was probably not mainly duds but rather accuracy. The Russian motive for attacking his claim is obvious. Russia wants to scare the West and sell Iskander missiles. While the Russian version of the Iskander is more accurate, it is likely that Russian claims about the Iskander-M’s accuracy are also exaggerated. Pashinyan’s initial statement may have reflected the poor accuracy of the Iskander-E, which is reported to have a CEP of 30 to 70 meters.

Noted Russian journalist Pavel Felgenhauer observed, “The Iskander as well as other Russian non-strategic missiles can be truly effective only with a nuclear warhead—apparently the way it is intended to primarily be used in any peer-to-peer conflict.” While Russian technical inferiority also plays a role, Mr. Felgenhauer is likely correct.

Because of shortages of modern missiles, in June, Russia began using older Kh-22 (NATO named: AS-4) missiles. The British Defense Ministry stated, “These 5.5 tonne missiles were primarily designed to destroy aircraft carriers using a nuclear warhead. When employed in a ground-attack role with a conventional warhead they are highly inaccurate and can therefore cause significant collateral damage and civilian casualties.”

Russia’s Dual-Use Threat
Assuming Russia does not use nuclear weapons against Ukraine (not a given), the poor performance of Russian missiles is good news. Presumably, it will fix the accuracy problems, but that will take time, as will rebuilding the inventory. This gives the United States more time to upgrade its forces for deterrence and potential conflict with Russia or China.

However, Russian missiles are not just conventional like U.S. cruise missiles, but rather dual-capable. The 2018 Nuclear Posture Review report confirmed that Russia “is also building a large, diverse, and modern set of non-strategic systems that are dual-capable (may be armed with nuclear or conventional weapons).” Dave Johnson, a staff officer in the NATO International Staff Defense Policy and Planning Division, observed that in regard to Russian precision strike weapons systems “all . . . are dual-capable or have nuclear analogs.” The distinction between conventional missiles and dual-capable missiles is very important.

The nuclear versions presumably will suffer from the same reliability and quality control problems as their conventional versions have demonstrated in the war against Ukraine. However, the accuracy and fusing problems will probably have little or no effect on the nuclear versions. While higher accuracy is always better than lower accuracy, for most targets, strikes with nuclear weapons do not require precision and accuracy or even near precision and accuracy. This is largely true even with low-yield nuclear weapons. The yield difference between conventional and low-yield nuclear weapons is enormous, and at very low yields the prompt radiation effects of nuclear explosions are often more important than blast. Furthermore, the Russian fusing problem resulting in duds will not likely affect the nuclear versions because they are products of different design bureaus with different design criteria and fusing is also generally different. For example, the “fallout free” height of burst is something that applies only to nuclear weapons. Direct ground impact will often be avoided to limit collateral damage. It should be noted that the only U.S. nuclear-armed cruise missile, the AGM-86B, is 40 years old, pre-stealth, pre-precision/near-precision accuracy, and has seriously eroded reliability—and this will be the case for almost a decade to come.

Except for Russia’s Kh-101 strategic air-launched cruise missile, all the missiles mentioned by Deputy Prime Minister Borisov have a primary or secondary antiship role. In the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia seized most of the Ukrainian Navy. At the start of the 2022 war, Ukraine sank its only frigate to prevent Russia from seizing it. While the Russians used antiship missiles against land targets, they apparently did not use them for antiship attacks. However, because the missiles have terminal sensors for antiship use, the accuracy problems demonstrated in Russian land attacks probably would not apply against a ship target.

For a variety of reasons, the lessons the Russians learn from Ukraine may be very different from what the West learns. (Russian lessons from Syria, constantly mentioned, seem to ignore that Syria was a low-intensity conflict). As a result of their combat experience in Ukraine, some in the Russian military will likely argue for a further increase in nuclear capability and reliance. Indeed, increased emphasis on tactical nuclear weapons is being urged on Russian state television. Deputy Chief of the Russian National Security Council (and former President) Dmitri Medvedev has said that Russia would defend annexed Ukrainian territory (Donbas and Luhansk) with “strategic nuclear weapons and weapons based on new principles could be used for such protection.”

Putin has demonstrated a willingness to launch massively destructive attacks, lives in a fantasy world in which he is fighting Nazis, and is playing general much in the way Hitler did in World War II. If he remains in power or is replaced by someone like him, the free world has a serious threat on its hands.

Lessons from Russian Missile Performance in Ukraine
By Mark B. Schneider
October 2022 Proceedings Vol. 148/10/1,436
PROFESSIONAL NOTES
FacebookTwitterRedditEmailPartager
COMMENTS
The 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine has involved the largest use of land-attack missiles in history, with launches from all basing modes. On 21 March, the Pentagon stated that the “Russians have launched more than 1,100 missiles,” and that “they have also suffered a not-insignificant number of failures of those munitions.” Four days later, the Pentagon added that “they’re still launching a lot of missiles,” but Russia was experiencing “a significant amount of [missile] failure” including “failure to actually launch or failure to hit the target.”

On 4 April, the Pentagon claimed Russia had launched more than 1,400 missiles and that its residual inventory is the lowest in cruise missiles. In late May, Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky stated that Russia had launched 2,154 missiles and Ukraine believes Russia has depleted 60 percent of its precision-missile arsenal. Since April, resupply has been difficult and inventory depletion has continued.

This very large expenditure of missiles was clearly not planned because Russia expected a quick victory. Russia’s efforts to replace its missiles will be very difficult because of cost, production limitations, and the impact of the sanctions. Worse still, from a Russian standpoint, is that the attacks have demonstrated there are significant problems with the performance of Russian cruise missiles.

Excessive Failure Rate
On 25 March, the Pentagon confirmed press reports that various Russian missiles were experiencing failure rates of 20 to 60 percent (failure was defined as the inability to launch or hit the target) with “cruise missiles, particularly air-launched cruise missiles” having the lowest kill rates. Reportedly, some missiles did not explode even when they hit their targets. Thus, in addition to the reliability and quality control problems with the missiles, they apparently have a fusing problem.

On 10 May, the Pentagon confirmed that Russia had depleted its missile inventory and that it was “running through their precision-guided missiles at a pretty fast clip” and was “running the lowest on cruise missiles, particularly air-launched cruise missiles,” but Moscow still had more than 50 percent of its prewar inventory. Since then, missile use has continued, but at much-reduced rates.

Inflated Expectations
For a long time, the Russian military has claimed that its nonstrategic ballistic and cruise missiles and strategic long-range cruise missiles have accuracies measured in a few meters. Former Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov (now head of Russia’s Space Agency), who handled defense procurement, stated that the Kh-101, Bastion, Bal, Kalibr, Iskander (hypersonic at longer ranges), and Kinzhal hypersonic missiles were high-precision missiles and that “high-precision munitions have the error probability of just a few meters. They can travel hundreds of kilometers and have next to zero CEP.” Even before the war, there was some evidence that this was not the case.

In 2017, a noted Russian military journalist pointed out in state media that the Kalibr naval cruise missile had an accuracy of 30 meters and the Kh-101 air-launched cruise missile had an “accuracy of five to 50 meters,” which is quite different than a “few meters” or near-zero CEP. While the variation in accuracy is not explained, 50 meters is not even close to near-precision accuracy. In January 2022, U.S. Army Chief of Staff General James McConville said that Russian hypersonic missiles were not a game changer because, “I have not seen them actually hit a target with that system.”1 U.S. Northern Command Commander General Glen VanHerck has said Russia has “challenges” regarding accuracy of its hypersonic missiles. He added that Russian missiles were still “on par” with U.S. missiles. This is apparently a reference to capabilities that Russian missiles have but U.S. missiles do not—supersonic and hypersonic speed, very long range, dual capability, and, in many cases, antiship capability (until recently when the United States began to introduce longer-range antiship missiles). These are important characteristics that don’t play much of a role in Russia’s war with Ukraine but which would be much more important in a war against NATO or against the United States and its Pacific allies.

In the most recent war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Armenia used the Russian-supplied Iskander-E. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan stated that 90 percent of the Iskander missiles “didn’t explode, or maybe 10 percent of them exploded,” although he later backed away from this statement. The problem was probably not mainly duds but rather accuracy. The Russian motive for attacking his claim is obvious. Russia wants to scare the West and sell Iskander missiles. While the Russian version of the Iskander is more accurate, it is likely that Russian claims about the Iskander-M’s accuracy are also exaggerated. Pashinyan’s initial statement may have reflected the poor accuracy of the Iskander-E, which is reported to have a CEP of 30 to 70 meters.

Noted Russian journalist Pavel Felgenhauer observed, “The Iskander as well as other Russian non-strategic missiles can be truly effective only with a nuclear warhead—apparently the way it is intended to primarily be used in any peer-to-peer conflict.” While Russian technical inferiority also plays a role, Mr. Felgenhauer is likely correct.

Because of shortages of modern missiles, in June, Russia began using older Kh-22 (NATO named: AS-4) missiles. The British Defense Ministry stated, “These 5.5 tonne missiles were primarily designed to destroy aircraft carriers using a nuclear warhead. When employed in a ground-attack role with a conventional warhead they are highly inaccurate and can therefore cause significant collateral damage and civilian casualties.”

Russia’s Dual-Use Threat
Assuming Russia does not use nuclear weapons against Ukraine (not a given), the poor performance of Russian missiles is good news. Presumably, it will fix the accuracy problems, but that will take time, as will rebuilding the inventory. This gives the United States more time to upgrade its forces for deterrence and potential conflict with Russia or China.

However, Russian missiles are not just conventional like U.S. cruise missiles, but rather dual-capable. The 2018 Nuclear Posture Review report confirmed that Russia “is also building a large, diverse, and modern set of non-strategic systems that are dual-capable (may be armed with nuclear or conventional weapons).” Dave Johnson, a staff officer in the NATO International Staff Defense Policy and Planning Division, observed that in regard to Russian precision strike weapons systems “all . . . are dual-capable or have nuclear analogs.” The distinction between conventional missiles and dual-capable missiles is very important.

The nuclear versions presumably will suffer from the same reliability and quality control problems as their conventional versions have demonstrated in the war against Ukraine. However, the accuracy and fusing problems will probably have little or no effect on the nuclear versions. While higher accuracy is always better than lower accuracy, for most targets, strikes with nuclear weapons do not require precision and accuracy or even near precision and accuracy. This is largely true even with low-yield nuclear weapons. The yield difference between conventional and low-yield nuclear weapons is enormous, and at very low yields the prompt radiation effects of nuclear explosions are often more important than blast. Furthermore, the Russian fusing problem resulting in duds will not likely affect the nuclear versions because they are products of different design bureaus with different design criteria and fusing is also generally different. For example, the “fallout free” height of burst is something that applies only to nuclear weapons. Direct ground impact will often be avoided to limit collateral damage. It should be noted that the only U.S. nuclear-armed cruise missile, the AGM-86B, is 40 years old, pre-stealth, pre-precision/near-precision accuracy, and has seriously eroded reliability—and this will be the case for almost a decade to come.

Except for Russia’s Kh-101 strategic air-launched cruise missile, all the missiles mentioned by Deputy Prime Minister Borisov have a primary or secondary antiship role. In the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia seized most of the Ukrainian Navy. At the start of the 2022 war, Ukraine sank its only frigate to prevent Russia from seizing it. While the Russians used antiship missiles against land targets, they apparently did not use them for antiship attacks. However, because the missiles have terminal sensors for antiship use, the accuracy problems demonstrated in Russian land attacks probably would not apply against a ship target.

For a variety of reasons, the lessons the Russians learn from Ukraine may be very different from what the West learns. (Russian lessons from Syria, constantly mentioned, seem to ignore that Syria was a low-intensity conflict). As a result of their combat experience in Ukraine, some in the Russian military will likely argue for a further increase in nuclear capability and reliance. Indeed, increased emphasis on tactical nuclear weapons is being urged on Russian state television. Deputy Chief of the Russian National Security Council (and former President) Dmitri Medvedev has said that Russia would defend annexed Ukrainian territory (Donbas and Luhansk) with “strategic nuclear weapons and weapons based on new principles could be used for such protection.”

Putin has demonstrated a willingness to launch massively destructive attacks, lives in a fantasy world in which he is fighting Nazis, and is playing general much in the way Hitler did in World War II. If he remains in power or is replaced by someone like him, the free world has a serious threat on its hands.

Let's not minimize the threat, maybe they won't be able to get new deliveries of missiles but from what you are saying Noumouj they have at least 200 SRBMs of the islander variety and who knows what else that they bought that can be compatible with the launcher

200 missiles able to hit at 500km even with somewhat lower accuracy is a gigantic risk, if concentrated on a target there is no missile defense system we can buy that would be entirely effective and it would need just as many interceptors as missiles if not 1.5

If the actual range is 500 km, and if they dedicate 100 missiles as an early strike against our two key air bases then they likely can cause a fairly reasonable amount of damage if they hit munitions, fuel depot, radars (I guess the fighter planes are secured in hardened covers, but likely not the rest of the fleet be it transport or helicopters). The good thing is they don't have enough missiles to hit radars or air defense systems while actually trying to take out the air bases

Either way something to think about, and having something to reply with in quantity would be critical as now we can only hit border bases and empty sand

This is why we are heavily investing in ISR equipment (new sats, drones, aerostats….) and in multi layer air defense  in order to prevent any bad surprise and to deter any bad intention.
We still need the patriot pac 3  and why not the THAAD system in our arsenal to cover any imminent threats.
We also need to consolidate and reinforce the cooperation on this particular subject with the Cousins and the French too to find out solutions for eliminating the threat.

yes i agree , it's better to expect more than what they have , than expecting less and getting surprised
it's always good to think your enemy has better weapons quality and numbers and work on that it maybe expensive but won't hurt more than getting suprised

So if the numbers are correct, we would need at least 400 interceptors of various ranges to be able to completely remove the threat of 200 ballistic missiles without gliding or hypersonic capabilities.

Now the question, do we actually have even 200 interceptors between all the recent air defense purchases? between MICA, Barak, Skydragon are we able to align that number?

Il faut s'attendre aussi qu'il y est une coopération entre eux et l'Iran dans le domaine des missiles et des drones.