Armée Chinoise / People's Liberation Army (PLA)

Rappel du premier message :

J-7 Fishbed


J-8 Finback

J-9 / FC-1

J-10


J-11 Flanker/Su-27


J-12

JH-7


Su-30MKK


JL-8


JL-9

L-15 Falcon


Yunshu-7

Yunshu-8


Mi-17 Hip

S-70 Blackhawk

SA-342L Gazelle

WZ-9

Z-11

Ka-27

SA 321/Z-8

WZ-10

Fremo a écrit:

Alors que les Chinois parlent de 3 GAN d'ici quelques années, là les américains seront forcés d'augmenter le taux de disponibilité de leurs GANs, et pour cela il faut construire d'avantage de PA ... chose impossible dans le contexte actuel !

tout a fait raison Amiral,selon un article chinois de 2010 ils auraient passé commande a 2 chantiers differents pour 2 PA de 60.000T de type Kuznetsov,qui devaient etre mis en cale en 2011 et achevés en 2016,pour ca ils auraient commandé 50 J-15.

Nano a écrit:

le jour ou les chinois auront 11 flottes aéronavales à ce moment la on pourra discuter...

Les Chinois ne feront pas l'erreur de jouer a "bataille navale" avec les US, mais ils les attendront près de leur cote avec le soutien des autres branches armée...

Gros plan sur le fusil d'assaut Type 88 Sniper en 5,8mm. Portée optimale en combat: 1400m (poids 4,2kg).

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artist impression

La Chine se prépare pour la guerre ...

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Chinese President Urges Navy to Prepare for War


Chinese President Hu Jintao on Tuesday urged the Navy to prepare for military combat, amid growing regional tensions over maritime disputes and a US campaign to assert itself as a Pacific power.

The Navy should “accelerate its transformation and modernisation in a sturdy way, and make extended preparations for military combat in order to make greater contributions to safeguard national security,” he said.

Addressing the powerful Central Military Commission, Hu said: “Our work must closely encircle the main theme of national defence and military building.”

His comments, which were posted in a statement on a government website, come as the United States and Beijing’s neighbours have expressed concerns over its naval ambitions, particularly in the South China Sea.

Several Asian nations have competing claims over parts of the South China Sea, believed to encompass huge oil and gas reserves, while China claims it all. One-third of global seaborne trade passes through the region.

Vietnam and the Philippines have accused Chinese forces of increasing aggression there.

In a translation of Hu’s comments, the country’s official news agency quoted the President as saying China’s Navy should “make extended preparations for warfare.”

The Pentagon however downplayed Hu’s speech, saying that Beijing had the right to develop its military, although it should do so transparently.

“They have a right to develop military capabilities and to plan, just as we do,” said Pentagon spokesman George Little, but he added, “We have repeatedly called for transparency from the Chinese and that’s part of the relationship we’re continuing to build with the Chinese military.”

“Nobody’s looking for a scrap here,” insisted another spokesman, Admiral John Kirby. “Certainly we wouldn’t begrudge any other nation the opportunity, the right to develop naval forces to be ready.

“Our naval forces are ready and they’ll stay ready.”

State Department spokesman Mark Toner said: “We want to see stronger military-to-military ties with China and we want to see greater transparency. That helps answer questions we might have about Chinese intentions.”

Hu’s announcement comes in the wake of trips to Asia by several senior US officials, including President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

US undersecretary of defence Michelle Flournoy is due to meet in Beijing with her Chinese counterparts on Wednesday for military-to-military talks.

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao last month warned against interference by “external forces” in regional territorial disputes including those in the South China Sea.

And China said late last month it would conduct naval exercises in the Pacific Ocean, after Obama, who has dubbed himself America’s first Pacific president, said the US would deploy up to 2,500 Marines to Australia.

China’s People’s Liberation Army, the largest military in the world, is primarily a land force, but its navy is playing an increasingly important role as Beijing grows more assertive about its territorial claims.

Earlier this year, the Pentagon warned that Beijing was increasingly focused on its naval power and had invested in high-tech weaponry that would extend its reach in the Pacific and beyond.

China’s first aircraft carrier began its second sea trial last week after undergoing refurbishments and testing, the government said.

Get ready for “warfare”: Hu to Chinese Navy
The 300-metre (990-foot) ship, a refitted former Soviet carrier, underwent five days of trials in August that sparked international concern about China’s widening naval reach.

Beijing only confirmed this year that it was revamping the old Soviet ship and has repeatedly insisted that the carrier poses no threat to its neighbours and will be used mainly for training and research purposes.

But the August sea trials were met with concern from regional powers including Japan and the United States, which called on Beijing to explain why it needs an aircraft carrier.

China, which publicly announced around 50 separate naval exercises in the seas off its coast over the past two years — usually after the event — says its military is only focused on defending the country’s territory.

http://www.eutimes.net/2011/12/chinese-president-urges-navy-to-prepare-for-war/

Elle n'était pas déjà prête???

que 2012 commence

Dans la joie & la bonne humeur, visiblement...

ah ce 2012 je sens que le monde retient son souffle

Yakuza a écrit:

avec la defense cotiere longue portée et leurs multiples SM(qui surprennent discretement de temps a autre un GAN),ils peuvent bel et bien inquieter serieusement des states handicapés economiquement,et qui en essayant un dernier va-tout hegemonique pour retarder leur chute,ne fera que l´accelerer.
ils veulent seulement faire un remake de la politique du cotainment qui a mené l´URSS a la chute,mais les chinois apprenent bien de l´histoire des autres empires.
n´oublions pas que les chinois sont aussi en phase de construction d´autres PA en douceur,hors du Varyag..

En parlant de douceur ,le complexe souterrain (et les autres) construit en douceur lui aussi pour qu'elle raison ( ).............
Les chinois sont loin d'etre des nazes,leur pratique d'attendre ,pour voir, ne durera qu'un temps ,quand ils auront tout ce qu'ils veulent niveaux armement en quantité comme en qualité leur mentalité changera ,soyez en sur.............
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c´est tout a leur honneur,Gemini
pourquoi accepeter que les USA font le jour et la nuit sur tout le globe pendant 60ans et le refuser aux chinois dans leur propre Lebensraum,qui est la mer de chine meridionale et meme le pacifique.

faut savoir que la doctrine chinoise se base sur les fameuse "theorie des 3 chaines d´iles",et le "collier de perles",la vision des chaines est d´essence defensive

les chaines se developent vers l´est et le pacifique,et sont l´expression de l´espace de bataille décisive destiné a l´application de la correlation de l´ensemble des forces(et non une politique de conquete comme souvent suspecté).

le collier de perles tend vers l´ouest et l´ocean indien,permet de materialiser des points d´appui au long des lignes de communication maritimes chinoises,comme par exemple le port pakistanais de Gwadar etendu et modernisé ave l´aide des chinois.

donc c´est la mentalite des autres qui doit s´habituer a cette volonté de la futur puissance montante

Attention je n'ai pas dit que les chinois n'avait pas le droit a leur trente glorieuse, mais, que les connaissant, maintenant (on essaie de discuter,de desamorçer les crises etc etc ...) pourrait a l'auré de eur puissance militaire se montrer plus agressif ,n'hésitant pas a recourir a la force.

d'ailleurs:
http://www.corlobe.tk/article26924.html

si ce ne ´est q´etre agressif vis a vis des US,je ne crois pas que la pluaprt des gens seraient contre
faut brider un peu l´arrogance yankee et remettre une certaine bipolarité a l´ordre du jour.

Les pays changent avec les époques... Aprés la Russie, la Chine.

..................L'Inde et le Brésil..................
Yakuza,je ne suis pas contre une ptite remise en place des States.....

Je pense que l'année 2012 sera l'année ou tout le monde réglera ses comptes, je m'attend à un feu d'artifice géant

Les Mayas n'ont-ils pas prédit la fin du monde pour 2012...

les USA demeurent le principal marché des marchandises chinoises, partant des petits gadgets électroniques aux jouets d'enfants. on ne fait jamais la guerre à son principal client. la croissance de la chine n'est pas basée sur la guerre mais sur la paix, on ne fait la guerre que quand cela arrange les affaires

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China Completes Second Test of Aircraft Carrier




Varyag returns from second sea trial




China completed the second test of its only aircraft carrier on Sunday.
The Varyag a former Soviet aircraft carrier returned to its home port of Dalian after setting off for what China's defense ministry called "scientific research and experiments".
The 13-day exercise which started at the end of last month consisted of landing exercises on deck for fighter jets.
Military experts also believe other tests included ship maneuverability radar performance and chain of command structure.
The ship had its first sea trials in August and the tests come amidst increasingly tense territorial disputes between China and its Southeast Asian neighbors.

arirang

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2nd sea trial satellite photo

le nouveau ZTZ-99A2

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KJ-200 AEW

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Le Shi Lang a entamé le 20-12 une troisième série d'essais au large

apparement la chine a des vue sur le patriot

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gOivOzq1N0Ogo9JztBPXxw0QE5Pw?docId=CNG.542f171f43790a927916f60ebb6a874c.3b1