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messages : 21656 Inscrit le : 14/09/2009 Localisation : 511 Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 10:55 | |
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- ...protégée par un reseau de Sam credible
ce qui n´est pas pret d´arriver,nazdrowie _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 10:57 | |
| en effet , c'est le Grand Jeu des S 300 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 11:03 | |
| je crois qu´ils resteront pas les bras croisés,ils iront prendre la copie chinoise,de toute facon les chinois livrent en toute discretion et moins de tapage mediatique au risque de capoter les deals. _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 11:06 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 11:09 | |
| pourquoi pas avec Pakistan?ou est le probleme? _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 11:21 | |
| le pakistan a fait sa bombe nuc ensuite les sanction US sont venu, l IRAN n a rien pour l instant et la russie lui refuse un systeme defensive. pareille a la syrie (ya meme eu des pression pour refuser la vente d igla ) que la russie prenne ces pression en compte doit faire reflechir les allié dela russie dans la region) |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 11:23 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 11:33 | |
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- je crois qu´ils resteront pas les bras croisés,ils iront prendre la copie chinoise,de toute facon les chinois livrent en toute discretion et moins de tapage mediatique au risque de capoter les deals.
il etait question d'acquerir des HQ 9 un moment mais je doute de l'efficacité de ce systeme assez batard qui combine des reverse ingienering de S 300 PMU 1 a du Patriot PAC 1 . La preuve en ai que les Chinois sont en train de demarcher la Russie pour avoir des S 400 pendant ce temps la - Citation :
- Russia 'losing to China on Iran S-300 quest'
In its quest for an advanced air defense system, Iran has reportedly shifted its hopes from Russia to China which owns a replica of the controversial Russian S-300.
As Iran's quest for the advanced Russian-made S-300 air defense system is believed to have hit rock bottom, a report by RIA Novosti said Tehran is eying a Chinese-made HQ-9 surface-to-air missile under the name FD-2000 -- recently put on the export market.
The HongQi-9/FD-2000 reportedly combines elements "borrowed" from Russia's S-300 and America's MIM-104 Patriot.
It uses elements of the Russian system's "solid rocket, aerodynamic layout, gas-dynamic spoilers, and launcher technologies, as well as some search and guidance systems."
The missile has a range of 7-125 kilometers for airborne targets -- a range much lower than the 150-kilometer range of the Russian S-300 PMU1.
The Chinese system's range for missile targets, or air-to-ground missiles, is 7-50 kilometers, with a firing altitude of 1-18 kilometers. Its range for cruise missiles is 7-15 kilometers, at a firing altitude of 0.025 kilometers.
The range for ballistic missiles is 7-25 kilometers at a firing altitude of 2-15 kilometers.
Iran has been negotiating a deal with Russia to obtain the sophisticated defense system since 2007. However, neither side has so far issued an official confirmation on the delivery of the S-300 to Iran.
Later media reports claimed that Russia's plan to turn a "new page" in its ties with the United States is likely to prompt Moscow to shelve the delivery of the S-300 system to Iran.
Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Mahdi Safari, however, said in April that the contract to buy Russia's S-300 advance missile system is still effective.
"There are no problems with this [S-300] contract," RIA Novosti quoted Safari as saying at the end of his visit to Moscow.
"After all, these are purely defensive weapons, and any country has the right to buy them. I believe this could only worry those states that have plans to attack others," he said.
Following an escalation in Israeli rhetoric, Iran has moved to upgrade its defenses and has reportedly opted to acquire the S-300 system -- which, according to Western experts, would rule out the possibility of an Israeli airstrike on Iranian nuclear sites.
"If Tehran obtained the S-300, it would be a game-changer in military thinking for tackling Iran," says long-time Pentagon advisor Dan Goure.
The S-300 surface-to-air missile system, which can track targets and fire at aircraft 120 km (75 miles) away, features high jamming immunity and is able to simultaneously engage up to 100 targets.
Iran's move to equip itself with the Chinese air defense system comes as an earlier report by the Jerusalem Post revealed that Israeli missile operators have begun weekly drills to hone their skills for a war on Iran.
According to the report, Israeli Air Force (IAF) reservists who operate the ballistic missile destroyer, the Arrow, and the surface-to-air missile, Patriot, have been called up by the Defense Ministry to spend one day a week on duty to prepare for a possible conflict with Iran.
The weekly military drills come on top of another report revealing that Israel is set to mobilize its army to hold the largest military exercise in its history on June 2.
One of the missions of the nationwide military drill is to psych up the public for the breaking out of war and to convince the people that in the event of a war the entire country could "become a front without warning". http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020101
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 11:48 | |
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- Yakuza a écrit:
- je crois qu´ils resteront pas les bras croisés,ils iront prendre la copie chinoise,de toute facon les chinois livrent en toute discretion et moins de tapage mediatique au risque de capoter les deals.
il etait question d'acquerir des HQ 9 un moment mais je doute de l'efficacité de ce systeme assez batard qui combine des reverse ingienering de S 300 PMU 1 a du Patriot PAC 1 . La preuve en ai que les Chinois sont en train de demarcher la Russie pour avoir des S 400 pendant ce temps la - Citation :
- Russia 'losing to China on Iran S-300 quest'
In its quest for an advanced air defense system, Iran has reportedly shifted its hopes from Russia to China which owns a replica of the controversial Russian S-300.
As Iran's quest for the advanced Russian-made S-300 air defense system is believed to have hit rock bottom, a report by RIA Novosti said Tehran is eying a Chinese-made HQ-9 surface-to-air missile under the name FD-2000 -- recently put on the export market.
The HongQi-9/FD-2000 reportedly combines elements "borrowed" from Russia's S-300 and America's MIM-104 Patriot.
It uses elements of the Russian system's "solid rocket, aerodynamic layout, gas-dynamic spoilers, and launcher technologies, as well as some search and guidance systems."
The missile has a range of 7-125 kilometers for airborne targets -- a range much lower than the 150-kilometer range of the Russian S-300 PMU1.
The Chinese system's range for missile targets, or air-to-ground missiles, is 7-50 kilometers, with a firing altitude of 1-18 kilometers. Its range for cruise missiles is 7-15 kilometers, at a firing altitude of 0.025 kilometers.
The range for ballistic missiles is 7-25 kilometers at a firing altitude of 2-15 kilometers.
Iran has been negotiating a deal with Russia to obtain the sophisticated defense system since 2007. However, neither side has so far issued an official confirmation on the delivery of the S-300 to Iran.
Later media reports claimed that Russia's plan to turn a "new page" in its ties with the United States is likely to prompt Moscow to shelve the delivery of the S-300 system to Iran.
Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Mahdi Safari, however, said in April that the contract to buy Russia's S-300 advance missile system is still effective.
"There are no problems with this [S-300] contract," RIA Novosti quoted Safari as saying at the end of his visit to Moscow.
"After all, these are purely defensive weapons, and any country has the right to buy them. I believe this could only worry those states that have plans to attack others," he said.
Following an escalation in Israeli rhetoric, Iran has moved to upgrade its defenses and has reportedly opted to acquire the S-300 system -- which, according to Western experts, would rule out the possibility of an Israeli airstrike on Iranian nuclear sites.
"If Tehran obtained the S-300, it would be a game-changer in military thinking for tackling Iran," says long-time Pentagon advisor Dan Goure.
The S-300 surface-to-air missile system, which can track targets and fire at aircraft 120 km (75 miles) away, features high jamming immunity and is able to simultaneously engage up to 100 targets.
Iran's move to equip itself with the Chinese air defense system comes as an earlier report by the Jerusalem Post revealed that Israeli missile operators have begun weekly drills to hone their skills for a war on Iran.
According to the report, Israeli Air Force (IAF) reservists who operate the ballistic missile destroyer, the Arrow, and the surface-to-air missile, Patriot, have been called up by the Defense Ministry to spend one day a week on duty to prepare for a possible conflict with Iran.
The weekly military drills come on top of another report revealing that Israel is set to mobilize its army to hold the largest military exercise in its history on June 2.
One of the missions of the nationwide military drill is to psych up the public for the breaking out of war and to convince the people that in the event of a war the entire country could "become a front without warning". http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020101
les iranien avait deja acheter du MANPAD chinois a la place des SA18 que les russe leur avait refusé . si les chinois sont moin reticent a livré leur systeme je pense que l iran sera preneur (c est toujour mieu que rien) ! |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 12:00 | |
| il y a aussi des rumeurs de reverse technologique - Citation :
- Iran Believed To Have Received S-300 Technology
Middle East Newsline March 27, 2009 MOSCOW [MENL] -- Iran was believed to have received Russian technology and components to assemble a strategic air defense system. Russian defense industry sources said Moscow has approved the export ofcomponents of the S-300 long-range air defense system to Iran. The sourcessaid the components along with technology and expertise stemmed from surplusS-300 systems, largely from such Russian allies as Belarus and Ukraine. "The feeling is that Iran was building an air defense system that wouldbe called indigenous, but actually a variant of the S-300," an industrysource said.
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Sam 26 Sep 2009 - 12:11 | |
| Sa ressemble à la corée du Nord. Je suis pas content alors je me fache - Citation :
- Iran: exercices impliquant des tirs de missiles à partir de dimanche
(AFP) – Il y a 3 heures
TEHERAN — Les Gardiens de la révolution, l'armée idéologique du régime iranien, ont annoncé samedi qu'ils effectueraient à partir de dimanche des manoeuvres impliquant des tirs de missiles pour "améliorer" les capacités de dissuasion des forces armées.
"Les forces aériennes des Gardiens de la Révolution commenceront demain (dimanche) des manoeuvres de défense impliquant des tirs de missiles avec l'objectif d'entretenir et d'améliorer les capacités de dissuasion des forces armées du pays", ont indiqué les Gardiens de la révolution dans un communiqué publié par les agences de presse Isna et Fars. _________________ Sois généreux avec nous, Ô toi Dieu et donne nous la Victoire | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dim 27 Sep 2009 - 5:22 | |
| le fiasco ? le programme balistique iranien m'a plutot l'air de bien se derouler . Les dernieres version du Shahab sont multietages et a carburant solide , ce qui implique qu'il faut moins de temps pour detecter et tenter d'intercepter un lancement | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dim 27 Sep 2009 - 5:27 | |
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- le fiasco ? le programme balistique iranien m'a plutot l'air de bien se derouler . Les dernieres version du Shahab sont multietages et a carburant solide , ce qui implique qu'il faut moins de temps pour detecter et tenter d'intercepter un lancement
La dernière fois ils ont masqué sur photoshop le raté de certain missile . Et puis c'est ridicule de lancer des missiles juste après que l'ONU dévoile un centre caché d'enrichissement d'uranium. Sa fait North Korea et c'est pas crédible _________________ Sois généreux avec nous, Ô toi Dieu et donne nous la Victoire | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dim 27 Sep 2009 - 5:27 | |
| Difficile d'intercepter un "photoshopage"... | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dim 27 Sep 2009 - 5:34 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dim 27 Sep 2009 - 5:48 | |
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- quel photoshopage ?
Un photoshop de l'agence de presse Irna qui a ajouté plusieurs autres faux lancement de missile alors qu'en réalité il y en avait que 3. |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dim 27 Sep 2009 - 6:54 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dim 27 Sep 2009 - 7:12 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dim 27 Sep 2009 - 8:00 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Iranienne/Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dim 27 Sep 2009 - 8:11 | |
| j'ai vu ça à la télé ce matin, ça a l'air réussi, mais ils montrent pas l'impact, seulement la phase lancement. |
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