Armée Irakienne / Iraqi Armed Forces

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Iraq seeks to buy 36 F-16 fighters from U.S

Fri Sep 5, 5:32 AM ET

(Reuters) - The Iraqi government is seeking to buy 36 advanced F-16 fighters from the U.S., American military officials familiar with the request told the Wall Street Journal.


This move could help Iraq reduce its reliance on U.S. air power and potentially allow more American forces to withdraw from the country than had been proposed.

The F-16, made by Lockheed Martin Corp, is the most sophisticated weapons system Iraq has attempted to purchase so far.

Late in July, the U.S. Department of Defense had approved up to $10.7 billion in arms sales for Iraq, including a $2.16 billion sale of M1A1 Abrams tanks built by General Dynamics Corp.

The U.S. recently announced F-16 sales to Morocco and Romania. Those sales, each for roughly $100 million per plane with training, related equipment and support included, offer an indication of how lucrative the Iraq deal could be for Lockheed Martin and its suppliers.

Iraq now appears determined to significantly expand the air power of its military, which has become more competent and confident in recent months but depends heavily on the U.S. for air support.

Iraq quickly has become one of the biggest weapons buyers in the world as it seeks to strengthen and professionalise its fighting force.

No one was available at the U.S. Department of Defense for comment.

(Reporting by Sweta Singh in Bangalore, editing by Will Waterman)

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Textron Marine & Land Systems to Deliver 80 Armored Vehicles to Iraqi Federal Police

ORLEANS | Textron Marine & Land Systems, an operating unit of Textron Systems, a Textron Inc. (NYSE: TXT) company, today announced it has been engaged to build 80 armored military vehicles for the Iraqi Ministry of Interior for use by the Iraqi Federal Police, to be contracted through the U.S. Army Foreign Military Sales (FMS) process. The total value of the procurement is approximately $94 million.

Of the 80 vehicles, 72 will be configured as Armored Personnel Carriers (APC), while the remaining eight will be in the standard U. S. Army M1117 Armored Security Vehicle (ASV) configuration employed as Command and Control vehicles. All of the vehicles to be delivered under this contract will be equipped with the Textron Marine & Land Systems 40/50 turret armed with an MK-19 40mm grenade launcher and .50 caliber machine gun. A total of 184 vehicles (122 ASV and 62 APC) built by Textron Marine & Land Systems have already been delivered to Iraq under previous procurements.

“These vehicles will be a great addition to the significant number of Textron Marine & Land Systems armored vehicles already in use by the Iraqi Ministry of Interior. The ASV has demonstrated its outstanding combat effectiveness in meeting expanding roles and missions in Iraq, while proving to be safe and reliable,” said Textron Marine & Land Systems General Manager Tom Walmsley. “The workforce at Textron Marine & Land Systems takes a great deal of pride in producing vehicles that defend and protect our U.S. troops as well as our allies. That same commitment is extended to providing highly mobile and well protected vehicles to the Iraqi forces.”

The ASV is a 4X4 wheeled armored vehicle that offers significant crew protection through the employment of multiple layers of armor, defending against small arms fire, artillery projectile fragments, Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) and land mines. The ASV possesses superior mobility, agility, handling and ride quality through the utilization of a four-wheel independent suspension system. Textron Marine & Land Systems has designed and produced more than 2,600 ASV and APC vehicles for the U.S. Army, Iraq, Colombia and Bulgaria.

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des BTR-4 pour l'Irak

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At the end of August 2009 SFTF “Progress” and Ministry of Defense of Iraq signed the contract for supply of the armored personnel carriers from Ukraine to Iraq. The contract envisages supply of 420 armored personnel carriers BTR-4 and vehicles on its base for an overall amount of $457 million with 20% advance with further payment of 70% of each batch and 10% of final payment of each batch.

L'armée de terre irakienne prend des muscles rapidement! bel achat! c'est un bon rapport qualité/prix, et en nombre important.

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Used US Equipment Transferring to Iraqi Army
06/27/2010

The US is providing over 900 million dollars worth of used US Army equipment to the Iraqi Army with the Iraqis paying 143 million for their share of refurbishment costs. The majority of the equipment being transferred is 1,026 M113 variants of vehicles with the remaining 255 items being artillery and support.

As speculated on in August 2008: “The planned replacement and disposal of 6,000 US M113s will probably facilitate this [Iraqi Army] expansion. M113s are used for mortar carriers, ambulances, tracked logistics, as well as armored personnel carriers and, despite the claims to the contrary, are proven assets in 60 of the world's armies.”


On 23 June, the Iraqi Minister of Defense mentioned this deal during an interview on Al-Hurrah [H/T: Jack Winters]. In addition to Iraq negotiating to purchase brand new F-16 Block 52s, the Defense Minister is in the US to finalize a deal where “the US Army is giving the Iraqi Army equipment worth 1 Billion, the DM [Defense Minister] said that this equipment will make a big difference, and that from the way he said it, it sounds like heavy equipment. The US will pick up most of the money needed and the Iraqi defense department will pay (140 million) to refurbish the equipment.” He also mentioned an air defense brigade to be formed by 2012 [NFI].

Prior to this interview, there had been unconfirmed reports of M109A5 Self-Propelled 155mm Howitzers, M113 FOV [Family of Vehicles], and M198 Towed 155mm Howitzers to be delivered to Iraq during 2011-2013.

In response to a request for information, Lieutenant Colonel Martin Downie, US Army, Public Affairs Chief, US Forces-Iraq (J9) stated:

• "Through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) process for Excess Defense Articles (EDA) the GoI is getting numerous pieces of equipment to help modernize the Iraqi Army. This equipment includes: M113s, M198s, M109A5s, and M88A1s. I've seen nothing on SAMs."
  

In a follow up, LTC Downie amplified :

• “The GoI paid $143M as part of their cost share for the refurbishment for the equipment. The total value of everything is $900M+. This is what they are getting:
  
  Major items:
  1026 - M113s Family of Vehicles
  120 - M198 towed howitzers
  21 - M88A1 armored recovery vehicles
  
  Additional items:
  Equipment for a strategic bridge company
  60 - M1070s heavy equipment transporters
  24 - M109A5 self propelled howitzers
  30 - Fuel tankers
  
  This cost share includes refurbishment of these vehicles, basic issue items, ammo, spares, field support reps to assist with maintenance, and training in varying degrees based on the type of equipment.”
  

This represents some of the major components for mechanizing 2 or 3 Iraqi Army divisions:

• 27 battalion-equivalents of M113 variants [probably including 120mm mortar carriers, APCs, and command vehicles],
  
• 5 battalions [20 batteries] of M198 towed field artillery,
  
• 1 battalion [4 batteries] of M109A5 self-propelled field artillery,
  
• 3 support battalions [fuel tankers, M1070s, M88A1s], and
  
• 1 strategic bridging company.
  

The Iraqi Army is probably mechanizing 2-3 divisions at a rate of 1 division each year from 2011 to 2013. This deal provides for most of the components for those divisions. The Iraqi plan is probably to form a mechanized reaction corps centered in Baghdad.

Montrose Toast

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Iraqi pilots to receive F-16 prerequisite pilot training
July 16, 2010 (by Lieven Dewitte) - The Iraqi government has signed an agreement with the U.S. government to train 10 Iraqi pilots. The agreement follows a request submitted by Iraq last March to purchase 18 F-16 Block 52s, for which congressional approval is pending.

The pilot training agreement provides for the training of an initial cadre of ten selectively-chosen Iraqi Air Force pilots who are projected to begin training this fall in the United States. Upon graduation, these pilots will have completed all flight training necessary to move immediately into F-16 flying training.

The program will include all necessary components of T-6A Texan II and T-38 Talon training including a course called Introduction to Fighter Fundamentals. The intensive flight training will be complemented with specialized English language training for aviation. The training for each student will last from 12 to 17 months depending on the experience level of the pilot.

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Iraqi Air Force MEDEVAC



An Iraqi UH-1H Iroquois "Huey" helicopter and an Iraqi Mi-17 Hip helicopter prepare to transport a wounded Iraqi servicemember from Joint Base Balad, Iraq, to Forward Operating Base Gabe in Baqubah, Iraq, Nov. 21. The servicemember arrived at the Air Force Theater Hospital at Joint Base Balad Nov. 16 with a gunshot wound to his leg. The Iraqi air force is developing its aeromedical evacuation capabilities to take on a greater role in transporting its patients. (U.S. Air Force photo/Airman 1st Class Jason Epley)

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Oshkosh awarded $40 million contract for Heavy vehicles to the Iraqi Armed Forces

Oshkosh Defense, a division of Oshkosh Corporation, announced today its first ever order for vehicles to the Iraqi Armed Forces. The inaugural order is for 60 Heavy Equipment Transporter Systems (HETS), which includes the Oshkosh HET vehicle and a trailer. Oshkosh also will provide operator training, spare parts and manuals.

“Oshkosh Defense is committed to helping international militaries become more independent by supplying vehicles that increase their mission and logistics support capabilities,” said Ron Ziebell, Oshkosh Defense vice president and general manager, International Programs. “We look forward to working with the Iraqi Armed Forces as they strive to improve security within the region.” The Oshkosh HET is designed to rapidly transport M1A1 Main Battle tanks, armored vehicles and self-propelled guns, as well as a six-person crew, so the vehicles and soldiers arrive in mission-ready condition.

The contract, valued at more than $40 million, was received through the U.S. Army TACOM Life Cycle Management Command (LCMC). Work under the contract is expected to be completed in May 2011.

The HET is part of the company’s line of international vehicles and technologies designed to meet a variety of logistical and operational needs around the world

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Iraq – Technical Support Services

WASHINGTON, August 5, 2010 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress today of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Iraq of contractor logistics support for various helicopters for an estimated cost of $152 million.

The Government of Iraq has requested a possible sale of two years of contractor logistics support for Mi-17 Helicopters and two years of logistics support for U.S.-origin rotary wing aircraft not in DoD’s inventory. The estimated cost is $152 million.

This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country. This proposed sale directly supports the Iraq government and serves the interests of the Iraqi people and the U.S.

This proposed sale will advance Iraqi efforts to develop a strong national military and police force structure. The support and services will enable Iraq to equip new forces to assume the missions currently accomplished by U.S. and coalition forces and to sustain itself in its efforts to bring stability to Iraq.
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MAATAWI a écrit:

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Paris prêt à rétrofiter Bagdad



Une délégation officielle irakienne est attendue à Paris pour négocier un accord concernant la vente de 24 Mirages F1. Des avions qui ont été payés rubis sur l'ongle en 1985 par l'Irak, mais qui n'ont jamais été livrés en raison du blocus qui avait été mis en place autour du pays de Saddam Hussein. Aujourd'hui, le dictateur n'est plus, l'Occident soutien le régime en place à Bagdad et le gouvernement irakien s'est réveillé en réclamant à la France un chèque de 651 millions d'euros, qui correspond à la sommes versée et aux intérêts qui ont courus depuis.
A l'occasion d'une visite à Bagdad il y a quelques semaines, Christian Estrosi a fait savoir au ministre irakien des affaires étrangères que Paris était prêt à rouvrir le dossier. Plutot que de faire un chèque, l'idée serait de proposer à l'Irak des Mirages F1 dont l'armée de l'air française n'a plus usage et que l'on rééquiperait pour l'occasion. Dans le jargon, on dira qu'il s'agit de « rétrofiter des aéronefs sous cocon ». Cela permettrait non seulement de régler le différent financier, mais aussi de couper l'herbe sous le pied des américains qui ont bien l'intention de vendre des chasseurs F16 à l'Irak.
Du coté du fabricant du Mirage, on ne doit pas voir d'un très bon œil se profiler cet accord. Dassault a bien sûr plus intérêt à vendre du matériel neuf que de voir s'échanger entre Etats des avions d'occasion.

http://coulisses.blogs.challenges.fr/archive/2010/05/05/paris-pret-a-retrofiter-bagdad.html

Huumm...Ça nous arrange pas cette histoire, à moins qu'il ne s'agisse pas des f1 cr et ct qu'on pourrait récupérer!
Ça dépends si les avions qui étaient destinés à l'Irak ont été mis sous cocon ou pas!

cela ne nous arrange pas au cas ou ces mirage cr ct étaient une bonne occasion !!!
a mon avis c'est une bonne chose cela ferai pencher l'EM vers du neuf un deuxième contrat F16 ça serait une meilleur chose que ces mirage

younes-spirit a écrit:

cela ne nous arrange pas au cas ou ces mirage cr ct étaient une bonne occasion !!!
a mon avis c'est une bonne chose cela ferai pencher l'EM vers du neuf un deuxième contrat F16 ça serait une meilleur chose que ces mirage

Euh les mirage cr et ct portés au format astracs? Ça se respecte et ça fait autant de travail qu'un f16! Il est plus manœuvrable en plus!

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Electronic Systems Center team completing communication infrastructure project for Iraqi air force


HANSCOM AFB, Mass. | An Electronic Systems Center team is scheduled to complete work on a project by the end of August that lays the backbone for communication and connectivity for the Iraqi air force.

The Iraq Information Technology Infrastructure Project, or I3P, uses new local area, base area and wide area networks to connect four Iraqi air bases to one another and to the country's defense and intelligence network. It's a key project to enable U.S. servicemember withdrawal. The work is being directed by the Command and Control, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Directorate Foreign Military Sales Team for Iraq.

The development and fielding of this system faced the challenge of working in a war zone. When the I3P team of government, and advisory and assistance professionals made its most recent trip to Iraq, the team's flight landed after a mortar attack.

"Although there was a sense of tension and stress, I was able to refocus the team around the mission," said Capt. Wesley Crawley, the program manager. "The team is always aware of the inherent dangers of the in-country environment, but is able to look past the conditions to what we are accomplishing."

I3P will be used as the foundation for all future command and control systems throughout the country, providing a vital Iraqi air force capability that will allow Iraq to reach its minimum essential capability, officials said.
To reach their MEC, Iraqi officials are working to have foundational capabilities in place that will allow their military forces to provide external defense prior to U.S. forces departing at the end of 2011.

"The current conditions in Iraq are rudimentary," said Richard Dellovo, a network engineer. "They currently have 'sneaker communications,' meaning they are running notes to one another. Through the I3P, we're providing them with services that we take for granted."
Items included as part of the I3P are Voice over Internet Protocol phones, radio and command and control, or C2 equipment, along with several hundred miles of fiber cabling to connect the various areas.
Members of the team are instructing Iraqi air force members on the systems through a train-the-trainer concept.

"All the would-be teachers are receiving training to use the system, educate the other operators, and maintain the system," said Paul Risotti, the project manager.
With information transmitted through the I3P equipment, the Iraqis will be able to perform air management and strategic air reconnaissance through direct communication with aircraft and the Iraqi Air Operation Center.

As the Iraqis work to re-establish their air force, I3P is the framework that will provide a level of security so they can maintain their own protection, said Philip Steele, an acquisition specialist.
In addition to working in a war zone, there have been a number of challenges the team has had to work through. They had to deal with extreme weather conditions, logistics issues and cultural differences.
Lack of electricity is another problem team members have had to face. Currently, only three hours of electricity per day are provided for the local population.
"We're trying to install modern-day technology but it is running on antiquated systems," said Mr. Steele, adding that the equipment is still being run off generators. "We keep trying to emphasize the great need to have full-time electricity to keep the equipment we're providing up and running."
The next step for the team is to establish a Sector Operations Center and Long Range Radar.
"As an acquisition officer, it's highly unusual that we are working with the Iraqis in a constant terroristic and combat situation," Captain Crawley said. "In this case, we're able to see the immediate impact in a war zone. We're helping the Iraqis build a robust C2 capability to sustain themselves and their country while decreasing the reliance on U.S. troops."

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Iraqi CH 20000th Squadron CH 2000 Reconnaissance Plane



Posted 8/17/2010
Iraqi Brig. Gen. Sami Saeed gives a thumbs-up from inside a 70th Squadron CH 2000 reconnaissance airplane June 27, 2010, at Contingency Operating Base Basra, Iraq, before departing on a joint mission with U.S. forces. The Electronic Systems Center is completing an information technology infrastructure project that will significantly improve communication and connectivity for the Iraqi Air Force. (U.S. Army photo/Sgt. Benjamin Kibbey)

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Irak: la guerre est finie, les ventes d'armes US décollent


L’Irak s’apprête à acheter pour 13 milliards de dollars d’armes et équipements militaires américains, rapporte USA Today ce mercredi. Au moment où Barack Obama célèbre le retrait des troupes de combat américaines, les Etats-Unis négocient avec les autorités irakiennes des contrats géants d’équipements qui feront de ce pays « l’un des plus grands clients au monde » de l’industrie militaire américaine, souligne USA Today. Sur ces 13 milliards de dollars, la moitié sont des contrats déjà finalisés, précise le quotidien, l’autre est toujours en cours de négociation. La liste de course irakienne comprend notamment 140 chars M-1, que les Irakiens ont vu à l’œuvre (à leurs dépens) lors de la guerre du Golfe. Au-delà de ces 13 milliards de dollars, l’armée irakienne a aussi demandé aux Etats-Unis 18 chasseurs F-16, un autre programme de 3 milliards de dollars qui doit encore être approuvé par le Congrès.


Encore équipée de vieux chars soviétiques, l'armée irakienne a été saignée par la guerre contre l'Iran et la guerre du Golfe, puis empêchée de se rééquiper par les sanctions de l'ONU contre le régime de Saddam Hussein, rappelle USA Today. Elle a grand besoin de se reconstituer, et les Etats-Unis sont là -aussi- pour ça.

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Irak: la guerre est finie, les ventes d'armes US décollent


L’Irak s’apprête à acheter pour 13 milliards de dollars d’armes et équipements militaires américains, rapporte USA Today ce mercredi. Au moment où Barack Obama célèbre le retrait des troupes de combat américaines, les Etats-Unis négocient avec les autorités irakiennes des contrats géants d’équipements qui feront de ce pays « l’un des plus grands clients au monde » de l’industrie militaire américaine, souligne USA Today. Sur ces 13 milliards de dollars, la moitié sont des contrats déjà finalisés, précise le quotidien, l’autre est toujours en cours de négociation. La liste de course irakienne comprend notamment 140 chars M-1, que les Irakiens ont vu à l’œuvre (à leurs dépens) lors de la guerre du Golfe. Au-delà de ces 13 milliards de dollars, l’armée irakienne a aussi demandé aux Etats-Unis 18 chasseurs F-16, un autre programme de 3 milliards de dollars qui doit encore être approuvé par le Congrès.


Encore équipée de vieux chars soviétiques, l'armée irakienne a été saignée par la guerre contre l'Iran et la guerre du Golfe, puis empêchée de se rééquiper par les sanctions de l'ONU contre le régime de Saddam Hussein, rappelle USA Today. Elle a grand besoin de se reconstituer, et les Etats-Unis sont là -aussi- pour ça.

18 f16 pour 3 milliards de dollars?
Pour cette somme, j'espère qu'ils ont inclus la couverture radars et la dca, l'artillerie et d'autres surprises, parce que je la sens pas trop cette histoire moi. Ca ressemble à du: "je me sers avant de ne plus pouvoir le faire"!

les FMS reprennent,avec un gangbang

mtn y´a un F16IQ pour IQ=16

Attention,pas pour les moins 18ans

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Iraq – F-16 Aircraft

WASHINGTON, September 15, 2010 -- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress on September 13 of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Iraq of 18 F-16IQ Aircraft as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $4.2 billion.

The Government of Iraq has requested a possible sale of (18) F-16IQ aircraft, (24) F100-PW-229 or F110-GE-129 Increased Performance Engines, (36) LAU-129/A Common Rail Launchers, (24) APG-68(V)9 radar sets, (19) M61 20mm Vulcan Cannons, (200) AIM-9L/M-8/9 SIDEWINDER Missiles, (150) AIM-7M-F1/H SPARROW Missiles, (50) AGM-65D/G/H/K MAVERICK Air to Ground Missiles, (200) GBU-12 PAVEWAY II Laser Guided Bomb Units (500 pound), (50) GBU-10 PAVEWAY II Laser Guided Bomb Units (2000 pound), (50) GBU-24 PAVEWAY III Laser Guided Bomb Units (2000 pound), (22) Advanced Countermeasures Electronic Systems (ACES) (ACES includes the ALQ-187 Electronic Warfare System and AN/ALR-93 Radar Warning Receiver), (20) AN/APX-113 Advanced Identification Friend or Foe (AIFF) Systems (without Mode IV), (20) Global Positioning Systems (GPS) and Embedded GPS/Inertial Navigation Systems (INS), (Standard Positioning Service (SPS) commercial code only), (20) AN/AAQ-33 SNIPER or AN/AAQ-28 LITENING Targeting Pods, (4) F-9120 Advanced Airborne Reconnaissance Systems (AARS) or DB-110 Reconnaissance Pods (RECCE), (22) AN/ALE-47 Countermeasures Dispensing Systems (CMDS); (20) Conformal Fuel Tanks (pairs). Also included: site survey, support equipment, tanker support, ferry services, Cartridge Actuated Devices/Propellant Actuated Devices (CAD/PAD), repair and return, modification kits, spares and repair parts, construction, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor technical, engineering, and logistics support services, ground based flight simulator, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $4.2 billion.

The proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States by enhancing the capability of Iraq. The proposed aircraft and accompanying weapon systems will greatly enhance Iraq’s interoperability with the U.S. and other NATO nations, making it a more valuable partner in an important area of the world, as well as supporting Iraq’s legitimate need for its own self-defense.

The proposed sale will allow the Iraqi Air Force to modernize its air force by acquiring western interoperable fighter aircraft, thereby enabling Iraq to support both its own air defense needs and coalition operations. The country will have no difficulty absorbing this new capability into its armed forces....

http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2010/iraq_10-23.pdf

c´est en voyant telles ventes que je me rends compte de la valeur du Maroc ::

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Iraq -Refurbishment of M113A2 Armored Personnel Carriers

WASHINGTON, September 15, 2010 -- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress on September 14, of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Iraq for the refurbishment of 440 M113A2 Armored Personnel Carriers as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $131 million.

The Government of Iraq has requested a possible sale for the refurbishment of 440 M113A2 Armored Personnel Carriers, being offered as Excess Defense Articles, including installation of 440 M2 .50 Cal Machine Guns, 607 AN/VRC-90E Single Channel Ground and Airborne Radios Systems, M259 Smoke Grenade Launchers, and Combat Vehicle Crewmember Helmets. Also included are tools and test equipment, site survey, construction, spare and repairs parts, support equipment, personnel training and training equipment, publications and technical documentation, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics personnel services, and other related logistics and program support. The estimated cost is $131 million.

This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country. This proposed sale directly supports the Iraq government and serves the interests of the Iraqi people and the U.S.

The proposed sale to refurbish the APCs will strengthen the effectiveness and interoperability of the Iraqi military, reduce Iraq’s dependence on U.S. forces in the region and enhance any coalition operations the U.S. may undertake with Iraq. The Iraqi military will have no difficulty absorbing these vehicles into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of these vehicles will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The prime contractor will be BAE Corporation in Rosslyn, Virginia. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.
Implementation of this proposed sale will require the assignment of multiple additional U.S. Government and contractor representatives to Iraq for a period of two years with an option for additional years for the purpose of fielding and training and quality assurance during equipment delivery

http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2010/iraq_10-30.pdf

Awwwwwaaaaa7777777777 J'espère que la vaseline est fourni dans le deal. Attention les irritations.
J'aime le style américain. Je viens chez toi, je vous le bordel, je pompe ton pétrole, je chope les contrats de reconstruction, et si tu veux accéder à l'industrie militaire, j'appelle tout le monde pour une Touiza.

Bravo, les US, sa + le méga truck Saoud+ l'Egypte

Les americains ne comptent faire part au iraquien du deal marocain qu'apres leur avoir fait signé le contrat !!

ni JHMCS ni AIM120 ni pod ATP sniper tout ça pour 4 billions dollars sacrée arnaque

Si Si Famas, il y a bien des Sniper , ce sont les suppo de l'histoire.. ((20) AN/AAQ-33 SNIPER , deux de plus que les avions... ))

ce que je comprends pas, c'est pourquoi acheté 18 cellules F16 ... et 24 F100-PW-229 et 24 APG68

pour ce prix il aurait pu avoir (en toutes options c est a dire avec fomration pieces de rechange maintenance ...):

-72 Su-30 MKA (avec les meme equipement que l algerie)
ou
-25 a 40 Eurofighter (avec les meme equipement que l A.S)
ou
-30 a 40 rafale (en supposant un prix entre 100 et 130M$)
ou
-40 F-16B50/52+ (avec JHMC, AMRAAM C-7, contrat de maintenance et financement comme pour nous)
ou 56 si ont prend en compte les 700 million qui nous ont etait accordé
ou
-tous les F-16 d occas qui traine en europe avec upgrad MLU ...etc
ou
-40 F-15K
ou
-98 Mig-29SMT
ou
-recuperer les 2000-9 o ychit chala sarf (et il restera de la monnaie)

...

meme en se basant sur le contrat egyptien (qui etait deja scandaleux) de 20B50/52 pour 3.2MM$


il aurait 25 F16


il ont payer leur f-16 le prix d un F-22

4MM/18 = 222 million$ par cellule (meme avec les equipement compris sa reste de la pure arnaque)


il prix a l unité de leur F-16 c est
le prix d un gros navire de guerre avec tous ses equipement pour un seule F-16
ou encore pas loin du prix d un soum tous equipé
le prix de 2 bataillon PMU2
50 millions de plus que le prix d une FMMM






Hachakom !

je sais pas, mais question prix c'est pas trés intéréssante, d'ailleurs c'est du commerce, en tant que commerçant, si tu trouve quelqu'un que tu peux y profité, tu n'hésitra pas, surtout lorsque tu es déjà sous mon pouvoir que ca soit d'une façon directe ou pas ...

Fremo a écrit:

ce que je comprends pas, c'est pourquoi acheté 18 cellules F16 ... et 24 F100-PW-229 et 24 APG68

zaâma spares part,y´a tjs une petite partie pour ca,mais pour eux ca depasse le taux.

Seg,meme les Sniper ne seront pas full option c´est sure(par ex sans datalink et autres features),a voir qu´ils leur vendent des Sparrow et un GPS "civil",normal ils doivent tous leur place aux US,ces derniers ont fait semblant d´augmenter les munitions histoire de legitimer le prix,mais la bouteille est tout simplement trop grosse
d´un autre coté,je comprends les US,car si un pilote decide demain de refaire le coup des mirage F1 en iran,ces derniers ne devraient pas se rejouire du cadeaux de noel.

peut etre une explication des prix surfacturés,le GAO critique les financements d´aide US a l´armée iraquienne,alors que ce pays a un exedent budgetaire

Iraqi-U.S. Cost-Sharing: Iraq Has a Cumulative Budget Surplus, Offering the Potential for Further Cost-Sharing
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-10-304