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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Lun 3 Jan - 2:47 | |
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La marine néerlandaise ravitaille des bâtiments français au large de la Côte d’Ivoire
L’équipage du ravitailleur néerlandais HNLMS Amsterdam a commencé ses activités au large de la Côte d’Ivoire. Le ministère néerlandais de la défense indique que le bâtiment de ravitaillement a apporté des approvisionnements au BPC français Tonnerre. Il s’agit de nourriture, de rations d’urgence, de matériel médical, de munitions, d’armes et de carburant.
Le ravitailleur néerlandais revenait d’une mission de lutte contre la piraterie au large de la Somalie lorsque les Français ont demandé son assistance en Côte d’Ivoire. L’équipage du HNLMS Amsterdam était attendu aux Pays-Bas avant Noël. Il devrait maintenant revenir à la mi-janvier. Radio Netherlands Worldwide _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Ven 14 Jan - 8:28 | |
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Thales awarded radar electronic support measures systems contract
13 January 2011
Thales has been awarded a contract from the Defence Materiel Organisation (DMO) of the Netherlands Ministry of Defence to supply APX* radar electronic support measures (RESM) systems to the navies of the Netherlands and Belgium. The contract, which is part of a wider modernisation agreement between the two navies, will supply four APX systems for the M-Class frigates.
This contract will see Thales deliver a mature and flexible RESM solution to the Netherlands and Belgium navies...
The new APX system offers a low-risk, cost-effective and high-performance solution utilising a combination of the latest advanced analogue and digital receivers, with world- leading signal processing and identification algorithms. The APX system will provide significantly improved situational awareness, threat warning and intelligence gathering capabilities to these modern operational fleets. The technology originates from Thales UK’s Crawley facility. Gerben Edelijn, Chief Executive Officer, Thales Nederland BV, says: “This contract will see Thales deliver a mature and flexible RESM solution to the Netherlands and Belgium navies, reinforcing the strong links between Thales and these two navies. Thales is committed to the success of the programme and is looking forward to working closely with both navies to deliver this capability.” Thales was selected earlier this year to supply its Seastar and Gatekeeper sensors for the modernisation of the two multi-purpose M-class frigates of the Belgian Navy. The new sensors will be fitted alongside existing Thales equipment such as the SMART-S surveillance radar, the STIR weapon control radar, the LW08 search radar and the Goalkeeper close-in weapon system that already equip the M-class frigates. – Ends – Note to editors: *APX notionally stands for Advanced Processing eXtensions. The APX solution is provided with the latest Digital Signal Processing solution, in the Digital Receivers, and the latest Data Processing Solutions in the Deinterleaving and Emitter Identification engines. However, the product name is APX. About Thales Thales is a global technology leader for the defence & security and the aerospace & transport markets. In 2009 the company generated revenues of £11.5 billion (€12.9 billion), with 68,000 employees in 50 countries. With its 22,500 engineers and researchers Thales has a unique capability to design, develop and deploy equipment, systems and services that meet the most complex security requirements. Thales has an exceptional international footprint, with operations around the world working with customers as local partners. thalesgroup | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Jeu 20 Jan - 8:57 | |
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Russian bomber planes intercepted in Dutch airspace
Two Russian bombers were intercepted by Dutch F-16 planes last night. The Russians had flown into Dutch airspace; it is not clear why the Russian planes were there. The F-16s were ordered to monitor the movements of the Bear T-95 planes. Before they entered Dutch airspace, the Russians were escorted by the Norwegian and Danish air forces. The F-16s followed the Russian planes until the British air force took over above the British Isles. It is not known why the Russians were flying in Dutch airspace without identifying themselves. /www.rnw.nl/africa/bulletin/russian-bomber-planes-intercepted-dutch-airspace | |
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Russian bomber planes intercepted in Dutch airspace
Two Russian bombers were intercepted by Dutch F-16 planes last night. The Russians had flown into Dutch airspace; it is not clear why the Russian planes were there. The F-16s were ordered to monitor the movements of the Bear T-95 planes. Before they entered Dutch airspace, the Russians were escorted by the Norwegian and Danish air forces. The F-16s followed the Russian planes until the British air force took over above the British Isles. It is not known why the Russians were flying in Dutch airspace without identifying themselves. /www.rnw.nl/africa/bulletin/russian-bomber-planes-intercepted-dutch-airspace Oullllla!!!Les russes ont des idées derrière le tete ou bien ( et ) ils jouent avec le feu,envoyer 2 T-95 survoler un autre espace aérien qui n'est pas le sien :S Il pourrait y avoir une rupture des relations diplomatiques à cause de se problème Ils se prennent vraiment pour la puissance régional |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Jeu 20 Jan - 14:28 | |
| c´est pas nouveau Elias,ca date depuis tjs les vols font un cercle suede-norvege-hollande-pays baltes...meme canada,alaska,UK,c´est devenu un jeu entre pilotes OAN et russes pour se prendre en photos exemple alaska 80s _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Jeu 20 Jan - 14:54 | |
| Merci Yakuza Mais franchement de la à envoyer des Tu-95 pour les survoler Limites des chasseurs exemple le Foxhound Mig 31 grâce a sa vitesse ( Mach 3,03)... Envoyer des bombardier pour ne pas bombarder ca sert a quoi Rep: A rien sauf a faire peur les autres mais bon depuis le temps ils doivent avoir l'habitude et si c'est pour surveiller je ne penses pas ! Ou peux-être les pilotes russes ont envi d'aller dire coucou au danoise et compagnie .Sauf que la ils ne sont pas dans une ferrari mais dans un Tu-95 :p .. |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Ven 21 Jan - 2:16 | |
| Pour Elias. Cela sert aussi a tester les reactions des défenses de l'otan ,l'otan fait de meme . | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Ven 21 Jan - 2:43 | |
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- Rheinmetall and the Dutch Army conclude framework ammunition supply agreement
Dutch PzH 2000 in Afghanistan Order volume could reach €200 million over a ten-year timeframe The Rheinmetall Group of Düsseldorf, Germany, has concluded a framework agreement with the Royal Dutch Armed Forces to supply the Netherlands with a wide array of different ammunition types. The anticipated order volume over a 10-year period is €200 million.
Under the agreement, the Royal Dutch Armed Forces have already placed an initial order in 2010 for modular propelling charges for the PzH 2000 self-propelled howitzer.
This far-reaching agreement reinforces Rheinmetall’s position as a leading supplier of large- and medium-calibre weapons and ammunition for NATO member countries and other friendly nations.
The Dutch Army already relies on Rheinmetall for nearly all its ammunition needs, including practice and service ammunition in multiple calibres. This long-term framework agreement provides the Dutch military with assured access at short notice to a comprehensive range of top quality ammunition, while simultaneously contributing to simplified procurement flows.
Built on mutual trust, the new framework contract symbolizes the longstanding relationship between Rheinmetall and the Royal Dutch Armed Forces, and lays the groundwork for an enduring intensification of cooperation that benefits both parties. defpro | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Ven 21 Jan - 7:57 | |
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- Emergency debate on Joint Strike Fighter
A request by the Green Left party in the Dutch parliament for an emergency debate has been granted following the release of US cables revealing comments by the Ministry of Defense regarding the purchase of Joint Strike Fighter planes. The cables sent by the US embassy in The Hague in 2007 were uncovered by Wikileaks and passed onto Dutch daily NRC Handelsblad. The newspaper says the United States was better informed on the government's position with regard to the project than parliament. For instance in 2007, the US was aware that the ministry did not have enough money to buy all 85 planes wanted by the armed forces to replace Dutch F-16 fighter planes. In parliament the minister has always said the government intends to purchase all 85 planes. The conservative VVD did not support the motion for an emergency debate saying parliament was poorly informed by the newspaper. The minister recently revealed for the first time that the cost of a single plane was 60 million euros. The whole project is costing 1.4 billion euros on top of the original estimate of 6.2 billion euros. The current government says it plans to purchase two test planes.
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Jeu 27 Jan - 4:11 | |
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Boeing, Netherlands MOD Mark 1st Flight of Royal Netherlands Air Force CH-47F (NL) Chinook
Ridley Township, Pa., Jan. 26, 2011 — Representatives of Boeing [NYSE: BA], its suppliers and the Netherlands Ministry of Defence marked the first flight of the Royal Netherlands Air Force (RNLAF) CH-47F (NL) Chinook heavy-lift helicopter in a ceremony Jan. 25 at Summit Aviation in Middletown, Del. The aircraft made its first flight on Dec. 8 and is scheduled to complete its flight test program in August after approximately 100 flight hours. There are two aircraft in flight test. The RNLAF has ordered six CH-47F (NL) Chinooks to enhance its current fleet of 11 CH-47D (NL) aircraft. The new Chinooks are equipped with survivability equipment, a forward-looking infrared system, and fast rope positions, which will be used to support Special Forces operations. The engines will include air particle separators for operation in harsh environments. These additions will make the RNLAF CH-47F a versatile, multi-role aircraft for worldwide operations. Boeing expects to begin delivering the aircraft later this year, making the RNLAF the first international customer to field the new CH-47F. The flight tests have included assessments of the advanced operational capabilities enabled by the aircraft’s Avionics Control and Management System cockpit and newly integrated Digital Automatic Flight Control System. By the conclusion of the tests, the aircraft will be certified airworthy by the Netherlands Military Aviation Authority. “The Chinook has over the years proven itself to be a true workhorse for the Netherlands Air Force,” said Air Commodore Theo ten Haaf, Commanding Officer Defence Helicopter Command of the RNLAF. “The aircraft proved to be ‘the right tool’ for a difficult and challenging job, especially in austere environments and during the combined air and ground operations in Afghanistan. Both ground troops and aircrew speak highly of it.” He added, “The CH-47F is a major improvement over the 47D model. The arrival of these new aircraft in the RNLAF will ensure that the RNLAF continues to operate with the best in the field of tactical transport helicopter operations both now and in the future.” “Our goal is to use available technology to provide customers with the best solutions while enabling long-term sustainability,” said Leanne Caret, H-47 Programs vice president for Boeing. “We have a long-standing relationship with the Netherlands and this new aircraft is another example of our focus on providing advanced solutions to meet our customers’ growing demands.” The Netherlands MOD and Boeing also are evaluating a potential upgrade of the current CH-47D (NL) Chinook fleet to the new CH-47F (NL) configuration. Source: Boeing Photo: Rob Vogelaar, ZAPP | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Ven 11 Fév - 14:34 | |
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Les sous-marins néerlandais sont sur la sellette
Comme d’autres pays européens, les Pays-Bas cherchent des économies à réaliser afin de réduire leurs dépenses publiques et leurs déficits. Et selon un document de travail non définitif évoqué par le quotidien De Telegraaf, le 3 février dernier, le ministère néerlandais de la Défense devrait voir son budget réduit d’au minimum un milliard d’euros. Les forces aériennes néerlandaises (Koninklijke Luchtmacht), qui ont déjà du mal à maintenir en état de vol leurs 87 avions F16 encore en service, risquent de voir le nombre de ses appareils encore réduit. Initialement, les Pays-Bas avaient l’intention d’acquérir 85 F35 A Lightning, actuellement en cours de développement aux Etats-Unis, pour moderniser sa flotte aérienne. Aussi, face à l’augmentation des coûts du programme Joint Strike Fighter, il serait question de diminuer la commande de 30 à 35 exemplaires, voire de purement et simplement l’annuler. Mais c’est la marine royale néerlandaise qui va sans doute être la plus touchée par le plan d’économies en préparation. Elle pourrait être contrainte de revendre deux patrouilleurs actuellement en cours de construction et perdre ses deux dernières frégates de classe Karel Doorman (dite aussi classe M). Et ce n’est pas fini puisque les quatre sous-marins de type Walrus pourraient également faire les frais de la rigueur budgétaire et être revendus. Ces bâtiments doivent normalement être rénovés et dotés d’équipements plus performants à partir de cette année et jusqu’en 2018 afin de prolonger leur vie opérationnelle. L’un de ses sous-marins d’attaque, à propulsion diesel-électrique et mis en service dans les années 1990, a été déployé l’an passé au large des côtes somaliennes afin de participer à l’opération de l’Otan Ocean Shield, visant à lutter contre la piraterie maritime.
http://www.opex360.com/2011/02/11/les-sous-marins-neerlandais-sont-sur-la-sellette/ _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Ven 11 Fév - 19:01 | |
| les 2 karel doorman dont on a parlé.. sinon la liste de degressage parrait interessante(F16?OPV?SM?) _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Ven 11 Fév - 20:56 | |
| les F-16 ont reçu l'upgrade MLU y a pas trop longtemps il me semble... _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Sam 12 Fév - 0:16 | |
| je crois qu'une marine latine pourrait étre intéréssé par les KD ... le chili peut étre les SM est une très bonne affaire celle là ... mais je vois pas un intéréssé ... j'aurais dire l'Egypte, mais ... !! _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Mer 23 Fév - 11:27 | |
| FABULEUX merci pour cette belle serie Maatawi _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Mar 1 Mar - 7:26 | |
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NLR helps Royal Netherlands Navy test new helicopter transport system on board M-frigate
February 28, 2011 The NH90 helicopter recently made its first deck landing on an M-frigate, while the ship was under sail. This first-ever landing occurred as part of a qualification measurement procedure for a new helicopter transport system. The National Aerospace Laboratory (NLR) conducted these measurements during the certification process, with dedicated measuring equipment for the ship, helicopter and transport system. The BNS Leopold I, a Belgian Navy ship, is the first M-frigate to be adapted for on- board operations with the NH90. The frigate was therefore equipped with a helicopter transport system that allows helicopters to be safely transported from the landing area on the rear deck to the hangar. The system is manufactured by Bosch-Rexroth, a Dutch company. The BNS Leopold I is one of two M-frigates that the Belgian Navy acquired from the Netherlands in recent years. NLR measured the loads exerted by the helicopter transport system on the helicopter as the ship undergoes various movements. NLR mounted measuring equipment on the ship, the transport system and the helicopter. Strain gauges measured the loads/forces at the points where the helicopter was attached to the transfer system for transport to the hangar. The frigate's stabilisation system was utilized in order to test how the system functions under the entire expected spectrum of rolling motions of the ship. This stabilisation system is normally used to reduce the frigate's rolling movements, but it can also be used to generate such movements by allowing the system to operate in the ‘opposite' way. In addition to the instrumentation, NLR also provided the ‘real-time' data processing system, in order to directly monitor the loads and to ensure that the forces exerted on the helicopter remain within specified limits. In addition, the measurements could immediately be analysed on board the ship. In testing the helicopter system, the Defense Materiel Organisation, flight squadron 860, NLR and Bosch-Rexroth conducted two rounds of tests on board the ship. The first test used a 'dummy' helicopter. Owing to the excellent initial tests results, a second test was quickly conducted using a 'real' NH90. Thanks in part to NLR, both tests were successfully completed. After further analysis and evaluation of the test results, this helicopter transport system will be deployed on all Royal Netherlands Navy and Belgian Navy M-frigates, as well as on the Royal Netherlands Navy's new Patrol Vessels. Source: Netherlands National Aerospace Laboratory (NLR) | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Jeu 17 Mar - 8:27 | |
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- The Netherlands is no army tanks
The Netherlands will probably have an army without tanks. Defense Minister Hans Hillen (CDA) is planning to cut away all the tanks, the AD writes Thursday on the basis of insiders. The plans were not final yet, but discussions are or in a final phase. The Army now has about eighty Leopard tanks, divided into two battalions. Because of the large cuts that the government's planned defense would no longer be operational battalions to keep.Combat Helicopters The tank battalions initially serve to protect the Netherlands against a possible attack by communist countries. Today is the use of tanks, the newspaper less clear. They are hardly used in missions abroad. The loss of momentum must be balanced with lighter armored vehicles and Apache attack helicopters. But according to the AD point out that some Apaches sometimes by bad weather to be grounded. Light armored vehicles would be deployed in all fields. The Ministry would also Couger helicopters, which transport will be used to cut away. The cost of maintenance should be printed by not having too many helicopters. Furthermore, the cuts in staff positions money. Hillen has announced earlier this month with a letter with exact measures.
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Jeu 17 Mar - 11:30 | |
| qu´ils les mettent sur le marché normal,ils sont devenus mtn loin de toute ligne de front,et s´ils comptent pas mener des guerres d´invasions,ils n´en auront plus besoin,comme la Belgique aussi.l´Allemagne reduira aussi a un minimum syndical de 150/180 dans les cadre de sa réforme de Bundeswehr _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Ven 18 Mar - 9:59 | |
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Dutch Navy Tests New High-Speed Vessel
The Royal Netherlands Navy has tested the interceptor model of the new high-speed vessel, fast raiding interceptor and special forces craft (FRISC). The FRISCs are designed to perform a wide range of tasks, from counter-drugs operations to maritime counterterrorism operations. The Marines Intervention Unit will conduct further tests to measure G-forces that occur when the vessel is at high speed. The vessel, with a cruising speed of 40kt, will undergo further tests for 14 weeks before it is operational with final improvements to be cleared up by this autumn. About 48 FRISCs will be handed over by the Defence Materiel Organisation (DMO) to the navy for use by the fleet and marine corps.
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Hollandaise/Armed forces of the Netherlands/Nederlandse krijgsmacht Dim 20 Mar - 4:11 | |
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- Dutch airmen utilize F-16s and new technology to help Coalition Forces
Airmen from the 1st Royal Netherlands Air Task Force prepare for a mission at Kandahar Airfield, Afghanistan, March 17. The RNAF has flown more than 7,000 missions in Afghanistan since 2002.
An F-16A "Fighting Falcon" taxis out into the runway for a reconnaissance mission at Kandahar Airfield, Afghanistan, March 17. The 1st Royal Netherlands Air Task Force provides armed overwatch and reconnaissance capabilities for coalition forces throughout Afghanistan.
A pilot with the 1st Royal Netherlands Air Task Force checks the RecceLite reconnaissance pod prior to his flight mission at Kandahar Airfield, Afghanistan, March 17. The RecceLite gathers and transmits Infra-Red and visual digital images through a data link to a group of imagery analysts for comparison.
A Dutch airman cleans the landing apparatus on an F-16A fighter jet at Kandahar Airfield, Afghanistan, Mar. 17. The 1st Royal Netherlands Air Task Force flies and maintains four F-16s at KAF. The airman said he felt it was his duty to keep the aircraft clean even if the dirt and grease didn't effect mission capabilities.
An F-16A "Fighting Falcon" aircraft taxis out onto the runway for a reconnaissance mission at Kandahar Airfield, Afghanistan, March 17. The 1st Royal Netherlands Air Task Force provides armed overwatch and reconnaissance capabilities for coalition forces throughout Afghanistan.
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