Je colle ça ici à toute fin utile. Je l'ai trouvé écrit sur Reddit /Seuros The Unseen Costs of Accepting Humanitarian Aid: A Deep Dive
Greetings /r/morocco.
This is a meta topic about the question why we did not accept humanitarian help from all countries.
I saw that a lot of you are asking why we did not accept the free help from different countries. it’s not always as straightforward as it appears. Let’s dissect why some countries might hesitate or even refuse humanitarian aid, incorporating some fresh perspectives:
## 1. The "Not So Free" Nature of Aid
While it's the citizens who receive aid without any financial obligations, the reality for the receiving nation can be quite different. Aid often comes with strings attached, such as pressure to modify trade tariffs, ban some policies or other economic policies to favour the donor country. A hypothetical dialogue between Wakanda and Morocco illustrates this well:
*Wakanda: Wanna help?Morocco: Sure! Please send ! Thanks.Wakanda: Before we come, can you make agreement you will declare that* King Namor is a terrorist and recognise the genocide he did ?*Morocco: OK, just hurry up.*
## 2. The Complexities of Logistics and Security
Accepting aid isn’t just a matter of receiving goods via Speedaff and distributing them among the needy.
It need a well-coordinated approach involving logistics, security, and intelligence provisions to facilitate the smooth functioning of aid operations.
This involves substantial groundwork and resources, which might not be readily available, especially in a crisis situation.
Just think if a bunch of Greek or Turkish firefighters are dwelling in the street of Taroudant. You have 0 local that speak their language or know their way of working.
And Maybe we cannot even help them to get their machines to those zone.
If the aid teams get in troubles such as mugging, accident, ect. We endup in an international crisis in addition of our existing problems.
## 3. The Imperative of Needs Assessment
Before accepting aid, a comprehensive assessment of the damage and the actual needs is crucial. Without this, there is a risk of ending up with a massive amount of unnecessary items, and staff displaced, further complicating the crisis management process.
Hence, nations might sometimes delay or refuse aid to get a clear picture of what is precisely required.
## 4. Image and Perception on the Global Stage
There is a considerable emphasis on national pride and the image portrayed internationally.
Remember we claimed to be ready for a **WORLD CUP** standalone. And now, we need all the external help for a 6.8 Degree earthquake ?
Accepting aid can sometimes signal a country's inability to address its problems, giving an impression of mismanagement or lack of preparedness.
For instance, the IMF might see our usability to fix this without external help as failure for the promise we did that we will be prepared.
## 5. The Philosophy of Self-Reliance
There is also a philosophical angle to this discussion.
If Morocco continue to relies on external assistance, it might block its growth towards self-reliance.
When a **Natural disaster** happens, all NGO are set in pause. The government takes over, including insurances and damage costs.
Every **NGO** that is currently collecting money is doing it **illegally** unless they get official authorization from the government (which takes few days).
The collected money can be seized or not used for its main cause.
[See related topic](https://www.reddit.com/r/Morocco/comments/16f4qwn/the_complexity_of_ngo_fundraising_during_natural/)
## 6. Underlying Political Dynamics
Beyond the apparent reasons, the political dynamics between countries can significantly influence the acceptance of aid. Sometime a country offer aid just to show off that they are superior.
Think about it like the TIKTOK for countries where a country is offering a Cheeseburger to the Homeless Morocco that didn't eat for 3 days.
Remember that those help are not huge, it just 5-100 people with experience and some hardware.
Sometimes : They just leave a stockpile of their local products in the airports and leave (eq tents, medical stuff and food)
*PS: I have extended experience with NGOs work and humanitarian help.*
*You can ask questions and i will try to answer them if i know the answer them.*
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Je colle ça ici à toute fin utile. Je l'ai trouvé écrit sur Reddit /Seuros The Unseen Costs of Accepting Humanitarian Aid: A Deep Dive
Greetings /r/morocco.
This is a meta topic about the question why we did not accept humanitarian help from all countries.
I saw that a lot of you are asking why we did not accept the free help from different countries. it’s not always as straightforward as it appears. Let’s dissect why some countries might hesitate or even refuse humanitarian aid, incorporating some fresh perspectives:
## 1. The "Not So Free" Nature of Aid
While it's the citizens who receive aid without any financial obligations, the reality for the receiving nation can be quite different. Aid often comes with strings attached, such as pressure to modify trade tariffs, ban some policies or other economic policies to favour the donor country. A hypothetical dialogue between Wakanda and Morocco illustrates this well:
*Wakanda: Wanna help?Morocco: Sure! Please send ! Thanks.Wakanda: Before we come, can you make agreement you will declare that* King Namor is a terrorist and recognise the genocide he did ?*Morocco: OK, just hurry up.*
## 2. The Complexities of Logistics and Security
Accepting aid isn’t just a matter of receiving goods via Speedaff and distributing them among the needy.
It need a well-coordinated approach involving logistics, security, and intelligence provisions to facilitate the smooth functioning of aid operations.
This involves substantial groundwork and resources, which might not be readily available, especially in a crisis situation.
Just think if a bunch of Greek or Turkish firefighters are dwelling in the street of Taroudant. You have 0 local that speak their language or know their way of working.
And Maybe we cannot even help them to get their machines to those zone.
If the aid teams get in troubles such as mugging, accident, ect. We endup in an international crisis in addition of our existing problems.
## 3. The Imperative of Needs Assessment
Before accepting aid, a comprehensive assessment of the damage and the actual needs is crucial. Without this, there is a risk of ending up with a massive amount of unnecessary items, and staff displaced, further complicating the crisis management process.
Hence, nations might sometimes delay or refuse aid to get a clear picture of what is precisely required.
## 4. Image and Perception on the Global Stage
There is a considerable emphasis on national pride and the image portrayed internationally.
Remember we claimed to be ready for a **WORLD CUP** standalone. And now, we need all the external help for a 6.8 Degree earthquake ?
Accepting aid can sometimes signal a country's inability to address its problems, giving an impression of mismanagement or lack of preparedness.
For instance, the IMF might see our usability to fix this without external help as failure for the promise we did that we will be prepared.
## 5. The Philosophy of Self-Reliance
There is also a philosophical angle to this discussion.
If Morocco continue to relies on external assistance, it might block its growth towards self-reliance.
When a **Natural disaster** happens, all NGO are set in pause. The government takes over, including insurances and damage costs.
Every **NGO** that is currently collecting money is doing it **illegally** unless they get official authorization from the government (which takes few days).
The collected money can be seized or not used for its main cause.
[See related topic](https://www.reddit.com/r/Morocco/comments/16f4qwn/the_complexity_of_ngo_fundraising_during_natural/)
## 6. Underlying Political Dynamics
Beyond the apparent reasons, the political dynamics between countries can significantly influence the acceptance of aid. Sometime a country offer aid just to show off that they are superior.
Think about it like the TIKTOK for countries where a country is offering a Cheeseburger to the Homeless Morocco that didn't eat for 3 days.
Remember that those help are not huge, it just 5-100 people with experience and some hardware.
Sometimes : They just leave a stockpile of their local products in the airports and leave (eq tents, medical stuff and food)
*PS: I have extended experience with NGOs work and humanitarian help.*
*You can ask questions and i will try to answer them if i know the answer them.*
I tried getting into the r/morocco subreddit for a while, but the rampant anti-Semitism every time Israel is mentioned and the insanity of their ideals in there kept me away from it. I prefer this forums by far
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Mes freres de notre cher Forum Far-Maroc, en ces jours douloureux, je partage avec vous un message que j’ai écris sur Twitter et où je relate ce que je vis depuis 2jours ici à Marrakech, ma ville natale:
La solidarité des marocains est juste incroyable…
Ces derniers jours à Marrakech j’ai vu:
Des heures de fils d’attentes des citoyens de toute age et de tout millieux social, pour donner le sang 🩸 Et apparement les meme scenes se sont répétés partout dans le Royaume
Des Centaines de voitures de civiles, remplies d’aides, qui se dirigent continuellement vers les zones les plus touchées et reviennent faire le stock à Marrakech
Des personnes, défavorisées, sur des motos, qui portent avec difficulté des habits, des matelas, des coussins et tout ce qu’ils peuvent se permettre, à destination des centres de donnation.
J’ai vu:
Toutes les associations, sans exceptions se donnant à 10000% pour reunir le plus d’aides dans les centres de dispatch, à Tahanaout, à Amzmiz etc…
Souvent, ces centres de dispatch viennent des civils des classes les plus aisées, qui ont des villas à l’extérieur de Marrakech, et qui mettent à disposition leurs garages, leurs hangars, leur jardin, pour stocker les aides.
Certains meme sont des etrangers qui habitent au Maroc et qui en ont fait leur pays de coeur
Les Hopitaux sont débordés de medecins, d’infirmiers et meme d’etudiants en medecine, qui veulent absolument offrir leur aide et refusent de rester chez eux avec leur compétence.
Enfin, les Marocains Résidants à l’Etranger se mobilisent dans tout les pays du monde pour envoyer des aides à leur Patrie, les cagnottes atteignent des records. Leur fidélité et leur amour à leur patrie et à leur peuple n’a d’egal que la peine qu’ils eprouvent, si loin de leur pays, en ces temps si dur.
Le peuple marocain est un peuple Fier. le peuple marocain est un peuple solidaire. Le peuple marocain est un peuple d’abnégation. Et de sacrifice.
Et on en a aujourd’hui une preuve supplémentaire et absolue.
Allah irham nos morts. Allah ichafi nos blessés. Allah i3awen nos secouristes
Et que Vive les marocains et que Vive le Maroc.
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J'espère qu'on va refuser l'aide de la Tunisie. Ces vendus jouent double jeu et veulent sauter sur cette occasion pour blanchir leur réputation. Pour moi la Tunisie de Qaiss Said est une wilaya algérienne.
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