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L'Inde: l'autre Puissance d'Asie
Les articles réguliers sur la Chine et ses avancées dans l’aéronautique civile et militaire ne doivent pas nous faire oublier que l’Asie compte d’autres puissances pour qui l’aéronautique est vitale.
C’est le cas du plus grand compétiteur asiatique de la Chine : l’Inde. Ce pays-continent dispose des capacités scientifiques et industrielles pour développer comme lui ses capacités de frappe.
Tout d’abord dans le domaine balistique l’Inde souhaite décupler ses capacités et sa volonté s’exprime dans les projets hautement symboliques que sont les missiles BRAHMOS et AGNI ; mais l’Inde a développé son propre chasseur, tout comme la Chine, et prépare la relève !
Grâce à l’apport technologique Russe, une joint venture a été créée entre les deux pays pour la mise au point et la commercialisation du missile de croisière BRAHMOS qui peut être de trois versions : sol-sol ou terre-mer, mer-mer ou air-mer (depuis un Su-30MKI). Une variante sous-marine est en cours de développement. Dans sa version navale, le BRAHMOS est supersonique (Mach 2, a une trajectoire rasante et une portée max de 300km (à comparer avec les capacités de l’exocet : missile subsonique Mach 0,9 et 180km de portée seulement). Récemment l’Inde a décidé d’investir 250 millions US$ pour développer une version du missile pouvant voler à Mach 5. On le voit ce missile donnera à la marine indienne et à ses forces armées en général des capacités de loin supérieures à ce que dispose toues les marines européennes et chinoise !
Le missile AGNI consiste lui en un missile balistique à capacité nucléaire (notez que le BRAHMOS pourrait être équipé lui aussi) initiale, de conception nationale. Il existe en trois versions : AGNI 1 DE 2500km de portée ; l’AGNI 2 de 3000km de portée théorique, et l’AGNI 3 (en développement) de 5000 km de portée à terme. Ces missiles représentent avec le missile de théâtre PRITHVI les vecteurs de la dissuasion nucléaire indienne.
Mais l’Inde ne sera jamais une puissance aéronautique complète si elle ne développe pas son aéronautique militaire, et le dernier appel d’offre international pour acquérir un chasseur de dernière génération (9 milliards US$) pourrait bien être le dernier du genre, et voir les russes remporter le marché assez logiquement. En effet l’Inde et la Russie veulent développer en commun un chasseur de 5ème génération : c’est l’objet de l’accord signé à Moscou en octobre 2007 pour le projet PAK FA (Future Tactical Aviation Aircraft Complex).
Contrairement au F-22 RAPTOR US le projet russo-indien prévoit un avion tant furtif qu’hyper manœuvrable via des tuyères mobiles développées pour le Su-27, ainsi qu’un radar et des missiles à longues portées. A noter que le radar disposera de capacité de brouillage (existant déjà sur des Mig 29 et qui pourrait exister sur le RAFALE cette information n’ayant jamais été confirmée). Le mariage entre le génie aéronautique russe et le génie électronique et informatique indien devrait donner un résultat très intéressant.
Mais ce projet en commun ne signifie pas que l’Inde ne sait pas construire de chasseur de manière autonome : elle a en effet développé par elle-même le LCA (LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT) . La décision de développer ce projet fut prise en 1983 pour remplacer les Mig-21 et les caractéristiques techniques sont fixées en 1990. Le projet recevra l’appui de constructeurs européens comme DASSAULT, SAAB, et BAE, et son design montre que les ingénieurs indiens se sont inspirés du mirage 2000 et du F-18 pour les entrées d’air.
L’appareil sera à terme équipé d’un réacteur de conception nationale KAVERI GTX-35VS double flux de 8,5 tonnes de poussée (SNECMA SAFRAN fournissant les filtres et les régulateurs). Le radar doppler multi-cible est développé par HAL avec l’aide d’industriels étrangers, tout comme l’avionique (THOMSON-CSF aujourd’hui THALES) et une centrale inertielle fournie par l’américain HONEYWELL.
L’avion sera équipé de missile russe R-73 VYMPEL et du missile de conception nationale ASTRA.
Initialement prévu pour entrer en service en 1995 le LCA a fait son premier vol en 2001. Malgré le retard du projet et les difficultés de son développement, cet appareil donne aux industries indiennes des compétences et une expérience certaine au moins égale à ce que la Chine peut faire.
On le voit là encore, l’Inde entend développer ses compétences pour faire face à la Chine mais aussi pour s’installer pleinement à la table des grandes puissances. Notons que la Russie s’installe comme un acteur moteur de l’essor indien dans l’aéronautique.
Caractéristiques du LCA :
Envergure : 8,2 mètres
Longueur : 13,2 mètres
Hauteur : 4,4 mètres
Surface alaire : 37,5 m²
Masse à vide : 5,5 tonnes
Masse maximale : 12,5 tonnes
Motorisation :
Prototype : 1 General Electric F404-GE-F2J3
Avions de série : 1 TSEA GTX-35VS
Vitesse maxi : Mach 1.6
Plafond : 15 000 mètres
Rayon d'action : 1 000 km
Armement fixe : 1 canon GSH-23 de 23 mm alimenté par 220 obus.
Capacité carburant : 3 000 litres
Facteur de charges : +9 / -3 G
Charge utile : 4 tonnes
L’Inde a développé une base industrielle reposant sur de nombreux acteurs, tant institutionnels que privés, lesquels sont encadrés par des instituts publics qui fédèrent leurs avancées. Ces acteurs ont en général acquis leur expérience en important en Inde des produits étrangers. Pour en savoir plus je vous renvoie sur ce site très bien fait : http://www.siatiaero.com/siatimembers.asp[img][/img]
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un des TU142ME de la marine indienne, en période d'upgrad en Russie. Celui-ci permettra à la marine indienne de booster la durée de vie opérationnelle de ces engins, mais aussi les doter des capacités de lancer des Brahmos.
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Sea trials of aircraft carrier Gorshkov put off
Sea trials of aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, which is getting a face-lift ahead of its induction in the Indian Navy, have been postponed for another five to six months due to the onset of winters in Russia. "We have to change the trial plans as they can't be held during the winters.
So, now we will carry out all the trials to be held in the harbour during the winter and then hold the sea trials after the winter is over," senior Defence Ministry sources told PTI on Sunday.
They said the change in trial plans will not affect the delivery schedule of the aircraft carrier, which India has procured at a cost of USD 2.33 billion. The project has already been delayed by over three years.
As per the earlier schedule, the sea trials were to be conducted starting November but they are now expected to be held only after February-March timeframe, they said.
The progress of the project was reviewed during the visit of Defence Minister A K Antony to Russia on October 5 and 6.
The ship is being refitted at Sevmash shipyard in the Russian White Sea port of Severodvinsk and is expected to be delivered by December 2012.
The original USD 1.5 billion contract signed in 2004 between Russia's state-run arms exporter Rosoboronexport and the Indian Navy envisioned that work on the aircraft carrier would be completed in 2008.Of the contracted amount, USD 750 million was for the retrofit of the carrier, docked at the Sevmash shipyard in northern Russia for the past 12 years.The balance was for modern weaponry, including MiG-29K Fulcrum aircraft and Ka-27 Helix-A and Ka-31 Helix-B anti-submarine helicopters.Russia later claimed it had underestimated the scale and the cost of the modernisation and demanded an additional $1.2 billion, which New Delhi said was "exorbitant".
India then agreed in 2009 for the $2.3 billion price for the aircraft carrier, which is now rechristened INS Vikramaditya.
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One of the Mig-21 BisUPG's was lost in an accident on the 6th of September due to a technical fault and came down shortly after takeoff from Ambala AFS. The pilot escaped with only minor injuries and was taken by helicopter to the Army Cantt Hospital in Ambala.
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Another MiG crashes in Himachal's Lahaul Valley
A MiG-29 aircraft is feared to have crashed in Himachal Pradesh's Lahaul Valley during a night flying exercise, the police said on Wednesday.
Two MiG-29 planes of the western air command had taken off from Adampur airport near Jalandhar on Tuesday night. However, only one returned
to the air base, Indian Air Force (IAF) officers said.
There is no official confirmation about the number of people on board the missing aircraft.
Two IAF cheetah helicopters began a search operation on Wednesday morning to locate the missing aircraft in the treacherous mountain terrain. Sukhoi-30 fighters have also been pressed into service.
"After searching the mountains for more than two hours, the choppers have returned to their base," said Rajiv Shankar, deputy commissioner, Lahaul and Spiti district.
The missing aircraft was on its way to Leh when pilot squadron leader DS Tomar reportedly lost communication with air traffic control at 8.30pm on Tuesday.
Villagers told the police that they saw a "fireball" in the sky falling into the mountains.
"The plane seems to have gone missing at the mountain stretch between Chokhang Khang and Nyanmar glacier," Shankar said.
The local administration launched a search operation in the area after air force officials informed the deputy commissioner about the missing plane.
"The ground level search continued till 6am on Wednesday," Shankar said.
A police search party has also been rushed to the hilltop to locate the wreckage.
"It is still not clear if the pilot managed to eject out safely," district superintendent of police Bimal Gupta said. This is the seventh air crash involving the IAF's fighter aircraft this year.
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GRSE launches Anti Submarine Warfare
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Kolkata, Oct 25 (IBNS) The Indian Navy’s modernization quest under ‘Project-28’, to stealthily hunt and destroy lurking enemy submarines, got further bolstered with the launch of the second indigenous ‘Anti Submarine Warfare’ (ASW) corvette ‘Kadmatt’ – named after and island in the Lakshwadeep archipelago of India – built by Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers (GRSE) Ltd., at Kolkata, on Tuesday.
Conforming to the centruries-old maritime tradition of ship launches by a lady, Mamatha launched ‘Kadmatt’ from the GRSE main yard in the presence of her husband, Raksha Rajya Manteri M.M.Pallam Raju.
Others present included Controller of Warship Production & Acquisition (CWP&A) Vice Admiral N. N. Kumar, DG Naval Design Rear Admiral K. N. Sekhar and other GRSE workers and office bearers.
Kadmatt is second in the series of the four ASW corvettes being built by GRSE, first from Kamorta, which was also launched by Mamatha on April 19, 2010.
Kamorta after fitments and sea trials is expected to be delivered to the Indian Navy in June 2012 and Kadmatt in March 2013. The keel of the third ASW corvette meanwhile was laid in August 2010. The remaining two ASW corvettes scheduled to float out next from GRSE yards are Kiltan and Kavaratti.
Pallam Raju in his address expressed delight that 50 percent of the total work on the frontline warship Kadmatt was completed prior to the launch as against 40 percent for the first ASW ship Kamorta launched in April, last year.
“This is a record of sorts in the warship-building scenario,” he said.
The on-schedule ‘build programme’ would ensure timely contractual deliveries adding to the might of the country in its projection as a blue water navy of our region, he said.
Stating that Indian Navy and Coast Guard have huge requirement of ships to be met without any time and cost overruns, Raju emphasized that timely delivery of ‘quality ships’ was the need of the hour.
“Modern shipbuilding technology and tools must be adopted to achieve this objective,” he stated.
Urging GRSE to put into practice effective mechanisms to meet challenges posed by the Indian private sector, Raju said shipyards (defence) have to concentrate on implementation of time-tested quality practices, effective corporate strategy, establishment of reliable and stabilized vendors and most importantly, training and up-gradation of its human resources to the lowest level.
GRSE, a category-I Mini Ratna DPSU (Defence Public Sector Undertaking) since September 2006, has for the first-time achieved a turnover of over Rs.1,000 crores, in the last fiscal.
With a healthy order book position currently pegged at over Rs.10,000 crores, GRSE has also embarked on a major modernization drive of its infrastructural facilities at a cost of over Rs.530 crores to bolster its shipbuilding capabilities.
Following visits to various modernization sites earlier on Monday (October 24, 2011), Raju in his address at the ship launch lauded the efforts and stated, “GRSE modernization when completed next year will almost double the shipbuilding capacity of the yard enabling construction of large and more sophisticated warships using modern modular construction technology in a much shorter time frame.”
The modernization of the main yard includes construction of a 180 x 29 mts dry dock with portable shelter, an additional 180 x 23 mts inclined berth with portable shelter, module hall assembly of pre-outfitted blocks upto 230 Tons, erection of a 250 Tons Goliath crane and a paint cell.
Upon completion, the constructions will double the existing building docks and treble the dry docks besides creating of a new slipway.
The ASW corvettes – deemed Kamorta Class Ships – with more than 80 percent indigenous content, capable of fighting under NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) environment are designated as super-sophisticated frontline warships with stealth features.
The 109 Metres long, 12.8 Metres wide ship with an approximate displacement capacity of 3,000 Tons can achieve a maximum speed of 25 knots.
The ship powered by four 3888 KW diesel engines at 1,050 rpm has an endurance to cover nearly 3,450 nautical miles at 18 knots. Each ship can accommodate 17 officers and 106 sailors on board.
The anti-submarine warfare capability is largely achieved due to the low signature of radiated underwater noise.
The ship having indigenous weapon and sensor suites is equipped with super-rapid gun mounting, anti-aircraft guns, torpedo launcher, rocket and chaff launchers.
The ship fittings include early warning, navigation, fire control radars and under-water sensors with integrated communication and electronic warfare systems.
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Bids for mega fighter deal to be opened on November 4
NEW DELHI: The final lap in the marathon to bag the $10.4 billion MMRCA (medium multi-role combat aircraft) project for supplying 126 fighters for IAF will begin next week.
The defence ministry has issued letters to the two aviation majors left in the fray, the Eurofighter Typhoon (backed by UK, Germany, Spain and Italy) and the French Rafale, that their commercial bids will be opened on November 4.
The other contenders, the American, Russian and Swedish jets, were earlier ejected out of the race after long-drawn technical evaluation and field trials.
It will, however, take two-three weeks to determine the lowest bidder (L-1) after the bids are opened on November 4. "Huge amounts of mathematical and data verification of the lifecycle costs of operating the jets over a 40-year period, with 6,000 hours of flying, as well as cost of ToT (transfer of technology) will have to be done,'' said an official.
Final commercial negotiations with the L-1 vendor will then begin before the contract is ready for signing by early-2012. While the first 18 jets will come from abroad, the remaining 108 will be manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics after ToT from end-2016 or early-2017 onwards.
As earlier reported by TOI, India is likely to go in for another 63 fighters after the first 126 fighters, which will make the entire project zoom well beyond $20 billion.
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21 more Hawks for IAF's Surya Kiran aerobatics display team
Ajai Shukla / Hal Bangalore October 25, 2011, 0:00 IST
The addition is to replace the vintage Kiran Mark II trainer aircraft and help SKAT fly faster.
The Indian Air Force’s vaunted aerobatics display team, the Surya Kiran Aerobatics Team (SKAT), could soon be enthralling spectators with cutting-edge aircraft. The IAF has initiated the procurement of 21 additional Hawk aircraft, built by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Bangalore. Hawk advanced jet trainers would allow SKAT to fly faster, turn tighter and manoeuvre more spectacularly, than was possible with the vintage Kiran Mark II trainer aircraft that they have flown since 1996
With the additional Hawk procurement underway, HAL chief, Ashok Nayak told Business Standard that HAL would build another 21 Hawks as soon as it completes the 123 aircraft, ordered by the IAF and the Indian Navy. “The IAF has initiated the follow-on procurement of 21 additional Hawks from BAE Systems. These are mainly for its aerobatics team, but also to replace the couple of Hawks that have been lost in crashes,” says Ashok Nayak, the HAL Chairman. The SKAT, highly regarded despite the old aircraft it performs in, is one of the few aerobatics teams that fly nine aircraft in close formation. To stage its heavy and technically demanding routine of nine-aircraft performances, the SKAT is authorised 18-19 aircraft.
The only other military aerobatics teams that fly nine-aircraft formations are the UK Royal Air Force’s Red Arrows, which also fly the Hawk; and the Snowbirds, from the Royal Canadian Air Force. Other aerobatics teams perform with fewer aircraft. The Thunder Birds (US Air Force), with six aircraft; Blue Angels (US Navy), with six aircraft; the August 1st Aerobatics Team (China’s People’s Liberation Army Air Force, or PLAAF), with six aircraft; and the Patrouille de France (French Air Force), with eight aircraft. The Russian Knights (Russian Air Force) have flown varying numbers of aircraft, but never nine.
For the pilots of SKAT, the transition to Hawks represents a generational shift. Before SKAT was formed with the Kiran Mark II in 1996, another IAF aerobatics team, “The Thunderbolts”, flew the Hawker Hunter fighter. The Thunderbolts, too, performed nine-aircraft routines. Besides the advantages of switching to the Hawk, the withdrawal of the Kiran Mark II from SKAT is driven by another pressing reason: the IAF’s shortage of trainer aircraft. The entire IAF fleet of HPT-32 Deepak basic trainers has been grounded since July 09, after 19 pilots died in 17 Deepak crashes over the years. Today, IAF rookies are herded for their first flying lessons into the relatively complex Kiran Mark I aircraft. For the next stage of intermediate training the IAF requires all the Kiran Mark IIs that it can muster. In the circumstances, maintaining an entire squadron (the SKAT team comprises the IAF’s No 52 squadron) for aerobatics seemed unjustifiable.
But, given SKAT’s glamour quotient, the IAF is keen to get it back in the air. Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne has demanded the team starts performing again in their new Hawks within three years.
Going by HAL’s projections, that seems unachievable. HAL is projected to finish building IAF’s first order of 66 Hawks (contracted in 2004 for Rs 6,600 crore) by mid-2012. Thereafter, 57 more Hawks have to be manufactured for the IAF and the Indian Navy as per a Rs 5,500 crore contract signed last year.
“Next year we will build 13-14 Hawks; and then step up production to 19 Hawks from 2013 onwards. That means 57 Hawks will be delivered by late 2015. Then we can build 21 more Hawks by the end of 2016,” says Nayak.
For the struggling UK aerospace industry, that opens an intriguing prospect: will the IAF insist on building its latest order of 21 Hawks in the UK, arguing a pressing need to get the SKAT performing again? Industry sources say, given the recent budget cuts in the British aerospace industry, this would be a welcome proposal.
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les indiens commencent a se rendre compte de la différance ente la technologie Russe et occidental
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Russia loses $600 mln Indian attack helicopter tender
Russian Mi-28N Night Hunter has lost a tender on the delivery of 22 attack helicopters to the Indian military in strong competition with the American AH-64D Apache, an Indian Defense Ministry source said on Tuesday.
“We decided not to choose the Mi-28 for technical reasons. Our experts believe that the Mi-28N did not meet the requirements of the tender on 20 positions, while the Apache showed better performance,” the source said.
The future contract, worth at least $600 million, envisions an optional delivery of additional 22 helicopters.
Russia is still taking part in two other Indian helicopter tenders: on the delivery of 12 heavy transport helicopters and 197 light general-purpose helicopters.
Mi-28N Night Hunter: The main attack helicopter of the Russian Air Force
The first tender includes the Russian Mi-26T2 and the American CH-47F Chinook helicopters, while the second involves the Russian Ka-226T and the AS550 Fennec helicopter, developed by Eurocopter.
Meanwhile, Russia continues the deliveries of Mi-17-B5 transport helicopters to India under a 2008 contract for the supply of 80 helicopters worth $1.4 billion.
The Indian military helicopter market, with its potential demand for 700 helicopters in the next decade, fuels fierce competition among foreign manufacturers.
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Maatawi, peus tu nous en dire plus sur les carénages situés sur le fuselage a hauteur des ailes des Mig 21 indiens?
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thierrytigerfan a écrit:
Maatawi, peus tu nous en dire plus sur les carénages situés sur le fuselage a hauteur des ailes des Mig 21 indiens?
C’est la troisième génération des MiG-21 nommé MiG-21-93. En 2000, un programme fut lancé pour moderniser 125 MiG-21bis au standard MiG-21-93 Le but de cette version était d'augmenter les dispositions multi rôles de l'avion, en augmentant sa capacité en armement avec quatre pylônes sous les ailes et en carburant et aussi le radar Doppler à impulsion Kopyo du MiG-29 Fulcrum permettant de tirer des missiles air-air R-77 ou des R-27, antiradar Kh-31P et Kh-25MP ou antinavires Kh-31A et Kh-35, 128 produits.
Pour la forme du carénage je croie que c juste des renforcements des ailes piuisque la capacité de l’emport de l’avion a été augmenté en armement et en carburant
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India - C-130J Aircraft
WASHINGTON, Oct. 27, 2011 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress Oct. 26 of a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of India for six Lockheed Martin C-130Js and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $1.2 billion.
The Government of India has requested a possible sale of 6 Lockheed Martin C-130J United States Air Force (USAF) baseline aircraft including: USAF baseline equipment, 6 Rolls Royce AE 2100D3 spare engines, 8 AN/AAR-47 Missile Warning Systems (two of them spares), 8 AN/ALR-56M Advanced Radar Warning Receivers (two of them spares), 8 AN/ALE-47 Counter-Measures Dispensing Systems (two of them spares), 8 AAQ-22 Star SAFIRE III Special Operations Suites (two of them spares), 8 ARC-210 Radios (Non-COMSEC), and 3200 Flare Cartridges. Also included are spare and repair parts, configuration updates, communications security equipment and radios, integration studies, support equipment, publications and technical documentation, technical services, personnel training and training equipment, foreign liaison office support, Field Service Representatives’ services, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics personnel services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $1.2 billion.
This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of an important partner and to strengthen the U.S.-India strategic relationship.
The proposed sale will provide the Indian Government with a credible special operations airlift capability that will help deter aggression in the region and provide enhanced humanitarian assistance and disaster relief support.
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MAATAWI a écrit:
thierrytigerfan a écrit:
Maatawi, peus tu nous en dire plus sur les carénages situés sur le fuselage a hauteur des ailes des Mig 21 indiens?
C’est la troisième génération des MiG-21 nommé MiG-21-93. En 2000, un programme fut lancé pour moderniser 125 MiG-21bis au standard MiG-21-93 Le but de cette version était d'augmenter les dispositions multi rôles de l'avion, en augmentant sa capacité en armement avec quatre pylônes sous les ailes et en carburant et aussi le radar Doppler à impulsion Kopyo du MiG-29 Fulcrum permettant de tirer des missiles air-air R-77 ou des R-27, antiradar Kh-31P et Kh-25MP ou antinavires Kh-31A et Kh-35, 128 produits.
Pour la forme du carénage je croie que c juste des renforcements des ailes piuisque la capacité de l’emport de l’avion a été augmenté en armement et en carburant
merci Maatawi pour cette explication
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Apparement le Typhoon a etait choisi par l' inde au detriment du Rafale.......... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/8857516/RAF-Typhoon-leads-the-race-to-secure-7-billion-arms-deal.html .............. ......bon ils savent pas ce qui perdent le Indiens ..............
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L'Eurofighter serait en tête pour gagner la compétition indienne annonce le journal, notamment grâce à la façon dont l'avion s'est comporté lors du conflit libyen, et en éborgnant le Rafale au passage (top cher, techniquement trop complexe). Il n'est pas écrit que le contrat a été signé par les autorités indiennes...
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The RAF's Typhoon combat jet is the leading contender in the battle to win a multi-billion pound deal to supply the Indian air force with a battle-proven combat jet. The "flawless" performance of the Eurofighter Typhoon in the Libyan war has catapulted the aircraft ahead of its main rival to win one of the most lucrative of defence deals in recent times. (...) But the Rafale has so far failed to sell overseas because of its high cost and technical complexity –
Ce ne sont plus les qualités des deux avions qui feront la différence, mais bien la proposition commerciale finale des uns et des autres. Les enveloppes seront ouvertes le 4 novembre 2011. Bref, c'est de la pub comme les français en font pour le Rafale!
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OK Rafi Donc pas définitif.............. Quoi que hônnetement ,cela ne m'a pas surpris si cela aurait été vrai.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 30 Oct - 19:44
L'Eurofighter aurait reçu la note la plus élevée lors d'une l'évaluation technique conduite en 2010 par des pilotes indiens...
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The Typhoon was already leading the pack after the jet scored highest in a technical assessment by Indian pilots who flew the aircraft in a series of exercises in 2010.
Mais ce qui sera déterminant ce sont les offres industrielles.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Mar 1 Nov - 14:27
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L’Inde ne parvient pas à lancer son nouveau programme de sous-marins
Un nouveau programme indien de sous-marins, le ’Projet-75India’ qui a déjà pris beaucoup de retard, connait de telles difficultés qu’il va falloir encore au moins 2 à 3 ans pour que l’appel d’offres soit lancé.
Comme il faut de 6 à 7 ans pour construire un sous-marin, la marine indienne craint de ne pas recevoir ses sous-marins P-75I avant 2020, ce qui laisserait sa flotte sous-marine loin derrière celles de la Chine et du Pakistan.
Des sources haut placées indiquent que le lancement de l’appel d’offres pour le P-75I, qui prévoit la construction de 6 sous-marins avec une assistance étrangère, « n’est pas attendu avec de nombreux mois ».
Au départ, 3 sous-marins devaient être construits au chantier Mazagon Docks (MDL) de Mumbai, un autre chez Hindustan Shipyard à Visakhapatnam. Les 2 derniers devaient soit être importés de l’étranger, soit construits par un chantier indien.
Mais la marine et le ministère de la défense ne parviennent pas à s’entendre pour désigner les chantiers qui doivent construire les sous-marins. Le ministre de la défense, A K Antony, ne parvient pas à imposer ses décisions. Le bureau du premier ministre s’est impliqué dans le dossier et 3 comités ont été créés les uns après les autres pour examiner le projet.
« L’appel d’offres ne pourra être lancé au mieux qu’à la mi-2012, » a indiqué une source. Des négociations complexes vont ensuite être lancées avec les fournisseurs étrangers : Rosoboronexport, DCNS, HDW et Navantia. Les sous-marins devront être à la fois équipés de missiles pouvant attaquer des cibles à terre et un système de propulsion anaérobie.
« Le contrat ne sera probablement pas signé avant 2014-2015.Donc, effectivement, nous envisageons une mise en service du 1er sous-marin P75-I vers 2022 environ, » a indiqué la source.
En 1999, l’Inde avait approuvé un plan de construction qui prévoyait la mise en service de 12 nouveaux sous-marins avant 2012, et 12 autres d’ici 2030.
Mais 12 ans plus tard, pas un seul sous-marin n’a été mis en service. Même la construction de 6 sous-marins Scorpène a 3 ans de retard.
La marine indienne n’aura plus en 2022 que 2 ou 3 sous-marins de la classe Kilo et 4 sous-marins U-209. Même avec les 6 Scorpène, l’Inde n’aura pas les 18 sous-marins qu’elle estime nécessaires pour dissuader la Chine et le Pakistan.
http://www.corlobe.tk/article26463.html
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Ven 4 Nov - 22:23
Après l'ouverture des enveloppes, il semblerait que la différence de coût entre les offres des deux avionneurs soit marginale (coût unitaire, moteurs, coûts de maintenance et d'utilisation).
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The cost difference between the two companies is ‘marginal’ when seen in the context of the overall cost of the tender that is more than Rs 42,000 crore. Also, on broad parameters like per unit cost, engine costs, maintenance costs and operating costs, there isn’t much difference between the two.
“The Contract Negotiations Committee (CNC) of the Defence Ministry opened the commercial bids and read out the offers made by the Eurofighter and Dassault Rafale in the presence of their representatives. Now, the ministry will evaluate and examine their proposals and it will take another 6-8 weeks to finalise the name of the lowest bidder,” said Defence Ministry spokesperson Sitanshu Kar.
As per the Defence Procurement procedure (DPP), the bidder charging lowest price and meeting all the requirements specified in the tender has to be offered the contract. The ministry will now start calculating the Life Cycle Cost (LCC) of the two aircraft, which is to be operated for 40 years or 6,000 hours, said the spokesperson. Final commercial negotiations with the L-1 vendor (lowest bidder) will begin before the contract is ready for signing before the end of this fiscal...
Le coût fly away par unité du Rafale serait légèrement meilleur marché que celui de l'Eurofighter.
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...the French Rafale came out to be slightly cheaper than the European Consortium’s Eurofighter in terms of ‘fly away cost’ per unit, as expected, the difference was less than 5 per cent.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Sam 5 Nov - 19:27
Info pour réveillé le British ou les offres formulées sont ce quelles sont et reste telle quelle pour le gouvernement Indien
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Sam 5 Nov - 19:53
Gémini a écrit:
Info pour réveillé le British ou les offres formulées sont ce quelles sont et reste telle quelle pour le gouvernement Indien
Je ne comprends pas exactement ce que tu veux dire?
Comme il est prévu par la procédure d'acquisition initiée par le ministère de la défense indien celui qui remportera le contrat est celui qui satisfera au coût le plus bas, en même temps qu'il aura rempli toutes les spécifications requises dans le cahier des charges. Le ministère va maintenant évaluer le "life cycle cost" des deux avions sur la base d'une utilisation de chacun d'eux pendant 40 ans ou 6000 heures...
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Now, the ministry will evaluate and examine their proposals and it will take another 6-8 weeks to finalise the name of the lowest bidder,” said Defence Ministry spokesperson Sitanshu Kar.As per the Defence Procurement procedure (DPP), the bidder charging lowest price and meeting all the requirements specified in the tender has to be offered the contract. The ministry will now start calculating the Life Cycle Cost (LCC) of the two aircraft, which is to be operated for 40 years or 6,000 hours, said the spokesperson. Final commercial negotiations with the L-1 vendor (lowest bidder) will begin before the contract is ready for signing before the end of this fiscal.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Dim 6 Nov - 14:23
Hélico Cheetah Lancer "Z3476" armé de pods canons de 12,7mm & roquettes de 70mm.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Mar 8 Nov - 14:01
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First Batch of Mi-17V-5 Helicopters Delivered to India Under 80 Units Order
A Mi-17V-5 helicopter of the Indian Air Force. (Photo: Russian Helicopters) 07:48 GMT, November 8, 2011 Kazan | The first batch of Mi-17V-5 helicopters have been delivered to the Indian side under the contract signed by Rosoboronexport, JSC in December 2008 during the visit to India of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. The helicopters are manufactured by Kazan Helicopters, a subsidiary of the Russian Helicopters holding company.
India is considered Russia’s a strategic partner in development and delivery of rotorcraft for defence purposes as well as state and private operators. Joint Russian-Indian projects to deliver new helicopters, spares, and aviation equipment are under way. As of 2011 the Indian Air Force operates over 200 Mi-8/17 type medium rotorcraft of Russian make.
The Mi-17V-5 is the most up-to-date modification of the Mi-17. The helicopters being delivered are manufactured to the customer’s specification and are unique in their configuration. Each helicopter is equipped with a KNEI-8 avionics suite. It replaced a number of systems indicators, resulting in a very clear and intuitive cockpit with four large multi-functional displays that are easy to read and help reduce pilot fatigue. This avionics suite also helps cut down pre-flight inspection time, displaying all systems data and alerting crew when necessary.
As of today, Kazan Helicopters and Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, also a subsidiary of Russian Helicopters, have both delivered over 11 thousand rotorcraft of the Mi-8/17 family to 110 countries worldwide.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Jeu 10 Nov - 11:16
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IAF will add two more Israeli AWACS to its fleet
NEW DELHI: India will order another two advanced Israeli Phalcon AWACS (airborne warning and control systems), or the "formidable eyes in the sky'' capable of detecting hostile aircraft, cruise missiles and other incoming aerial threat far before ground-based radars at a cost of over $800 million soon.
Top defence ministry sources say the "draft contract'' for the two new AWACS "is now finally in the final stages of being examined'' before it's inked as a follow-on order to the $1.1-billion tripartite agreement among India, Israel and Russia in 2004, under which IAF inducted three Phalcon AWACS in 2009-10. The purchase comes at a time when Pakistan is fast snapping at India's heels in this complex military arena, having first inducted four Swedish Saab-2000s and on the verge of getting four Chinese ZDK-03 AWACS.
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Second regiment of BrahMos cruise missiles commissioned
Hyderabad, Nov 9 (PTI) In a major boost to its firepower, the army today commissioned the second regiment of the 290-km- range supersonic BrahMos cruise missiles with 16 weapon systems. "I am glad to know that this regiment is being delivered, ahead of schedule. This shows BrahMoss commitment to its customer," Minister of State for Defence M M Pallam Raju said at a function to mark the commissioning of the regiment into the Army's Corps of Artillery. "Industries must go in a big way towards producing the systems as the production requirement is large in order to meet the demand of the Indian Armed Forces," he said. Speaking on the occasion, Director General Artillery Lt Gen Vionod Nayanar said, "We have guns for near range and Smerch Rockets for range of 75 km. "But beyond 75 km range, BrahMos is the only system which has added tremendous fire power capability to Indian Armed Forces for targets as deep as 300 km." Observing that the capabilities of Army will increase manifold with the induction of world's only supersonic cruise missile, BrahMos Aerospace Chief A Sivathanu Pillai said, "We have formed a missile industry complex which is tirelessly working for producing BrahMos missiles for meeting the demand of all the three services." Two more regiments of the BrahMos will be commissioned in near future including the Block III, which will be deployed in the Northeast along the China border.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Ven 11 Nov - 9:41
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Agni II Prime to be tested again
Missile technologists of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) are reaching Wheeler Island off the coast of Orissa for the launch of India's Agni II Prime missile on November 15. The missile will take off from a specially designed truck and, if the flight is successful, it will target an area 3,000 km away in the Bay of Bengal.
The missile engineers are looking forward to the Agni II Prime launch after the successful flights of Shourya, Prithivi-II and Agni-II missiles in the last week of September this year.
However, they are keeping their fingers crossed because the maiden flight of Agni-II Prime in December 2010 had failed. The flight ended abruptly after a problem in the control system of the first stage of the missile, which occurred during the lift-off.
No change
There is no change in the configuration of the Agni II Prime to be launched on November 15 and the missile that failed last December.
The missile engineers said: “We had a problem last time. We have identified the problem and taken precautions to stabilise the whole system. We have introduced a lot of redundancies to take care of the anomalies that may occur during the flight,” they added.
Agni-II Prime is a two-stage surface-to-surface missile that aims at filling the gap in the ranges between Agni-II and Agni-III. While Agni-II can take out targets 2,000 km away, Agni-III can travel a distance of 3,000 km to 3,500 km.
All the three are strategic missiles that can carry nuclear warheads. But test flights like these carry conventional explosives. Agni-II Prime is 20 metres long and weighs 17 tonnes. This time it will carry a warhead weighing 800 kg instead of the normal 1,000 kg. “We are aiming to go for range of 3,000 km this time,” a DRDO official said. The Advanced Missile Laboratory, Hyderabad, has designed and developed the missile.
The DRDO has also developed the Agni-V, the most powerful missile in India's arsenal. Agni-V, which will carry a nuclear warhead, can aim at places 5,000 km away. The motors of its three stages have undergone successful tests at a facility at Jagdalpur in Chhattisgarh. Its maiden flight may take place in December 2011 or January/February 2012.
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Sujet: Re: Armée Indienne / Indian Armed Forces Ven 11 Nov - 15:25
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Navy to procure three dimensional radars for warships
PTI | 07:11 PM,Nov 10,2011 New Delhi, Nov 10 (PTI) Aiming to provide a 360 degree surveillance capability to warships, the Indian Navy is planning to induct state-of-the-art three dimensional (3D) radars for detecting enemy aircraft, helicopters and sea-skimming missiles. "We are considering induction of 3D air surveillance radars for warships above 3,000 tonnes to detect aircraft, helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and missiles," Navy officials told PTI here. They said the radar would also be required to automatically track in three dimensions including range, height and direction. In a global Request for Information (RFI) issued by the Navy, it has asked the global manufacturers to provide details of the ranges at which they can track enemy fighter aircraft, helicopters and anti-ship missiles. The Navy wants the radar to be compatible with the latest combat management systems used by it. The DRDO has already developed a three dimensional radar named Central Acquisition Radar (3D-CAR) for use with the Akash Surface to Air missile system, which is capable of tracking 150 targets. The DRDO has also developed the maritime version of the 3D radar which is called 'Revathi'.
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India Presses Russians on Smerch Problems
A Russian diplomat here said the firing system problems occur only in isolated cases, and noted that the Army had tested the weapons before bringing them into service.
The Indian Army needs more Smerches, despite the technical problem, an Army official said.
India bought the Smerch in 2005 and 2006. New Delhi asked for technology transfer, but Russia refused.
The Army relies heavily on the Smerch MRBLs, which can fire 12 rockets at once and hit targets out to 70 kilometers, along with the Russian-origin Grad 122mm rocket systems and indigenous Pinaka MRBL.
Its range can be extended to 90 kilometers, the Army official said. It can also launch surface-to-surface and surface-to-air missiles, he added.
NEW DELHI - India is pressing Russia about Smerch multibarrel rocket launchers (MRBLs) that Indian Army officials say have problems with their firing system. The Army is also having difficulties obtaining spare parts for the Russian-built weapons.
An Indian delegation raised the matters last month at a joint meeting in Moscow, Defence Ministry sources said. The outcome of the meeting was not known.
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