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| Sujet: US Navy Sam 22 Mar 2008 - 17:06 | |
| Rappel du premier message :Bonjour/Bonsoir ; Alors, je vous présente quelques portes avions USA : USS Carl Vinson USS Harry S Truman USS Nimitz USS Eisenhower USS George H. W. Bush USS Kity Hawk USS Wasp USS Tarawa USS Saipan _________________ Marocain, et fier de l'être.
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Jeu 24 Juin 2010 - 13:10 | |
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- USS George H.W. Bush Conducts First Missile Launch
USS GEORGE H.W. BUSH, At Sea | USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) successfully fired two Evolved NATO Sea Sparrow missiles and two Rolling Airframe Missiles (RAM) for the first time, to conclude its first Combat Systems Ship's Qualification Trials (CSSQT), June 23. CSSQT is part of the series of qualifications and certifications the aircraft carrier must undergo in preparation for her upcoming maiden deployment. According to Combat Systems Officer, Cmdr. John B. Vliet, CSSQT is a combined effort between the Combat Systems, Operations and Weapons departments to test the aircraft carrier's self-defense systems. "It's an end-to-end testing of the Combat Systems Suite, to include tactics, techniques, and procedures," Vliet said. "It's an operational verification of the ship's warfighting and self-defense capabilities. Combat Systems with Operations department has worked around the clock for the last six months, grooming equipment and training for this exercise. More than 200 personnel have directly or indirectly supported this evolution." Of those 200-plus personnel, two of the most directly involved were Fire Controlman 2nd Class (SW/AW) Ezekiel S. Ramirez, work center supervisor for the Evolved NATO Sea Sparrow Surface Missile System, and Fire Controlman 2nd Class (SW/AW) Ryan P. McWilliams, work center supervisor for the RAM system. The Evolved NATO Sea Sparrow missile is a semi-active missile that requires feed from directors to locate its target, and the RAM is a passive missile, meaning the missile uses built-in sensors to home in on targets. All of the missiles used during the launch were telemetry missiles, which are live missiles that have the warheads replaced with data recovery technology used to gauge accuracy. Ramirez and McWilliams, on board experts for the missile systems, said that the launch was the culmination of months of hard work and preparation that included more than 40 maintenance checks, going aloft to fix radar, multiple pre-fire checks, and 21 "detect-to-engage" pre-fire drills. "We've been preparing for this evolution ever since the ship left the shipyard and we took ownership of the system," said McWilliams. "This was one of the hardest evolutions Combat Systems department will have to do during the existence of this aircraft carrier." Prior to the launch, Ramirez and McWilliams were responsible for loading the two launchers for each system. "The NATO Sea Sparrow Missile system holds eight missiles in each launcher and the RAM uses 21 missiles in each launcher," said Ramirez. "It's a lot of work for one launch, but when we deploy we will have to load a total of 58 missiles." Ramirez stressed the significance of the successful missile fire, what it meant for the entire command, and for the small group of 14 Sailors directly involved with operation of the missile systems. "It's a pretty a big accomplishment," he said. "We are the aircraft carrier's first and last line of defense. This test is the way we prove that the self-defense systems work. We're finally doing our job." Directing the crew in the Combat Direction Center (CDC) were the Blue and Gold team Tactical Action Officers (TAO), Lt. Chris Caton and Lt. Jeff Moen of the Operations department. The CDC Officer Cmdr. Les Spanheimer credits proactive tactical leadership and outstanding teamwork with the successful missile test. "Lt. Caton began training our tactical watchstanders with live aircraft while the ship was still being outfitted in the shipyards," said Spanheimer. "That proactive tactical development combined with a perfectly groomed weapons system helped us demonstrate today how very capable this ship is." "The test involved two watch teams made up of 13 to 15 people," Caton said. "During the exercise the watch teams are responsible for communicating with Range Control, tracking and data-linking the targets and engaging those threats when they enter our engagement envelope. We've been preparing for this for well over a year, putting in long hours." Fire Controlman 1st Class (SW/AW) John L. Rodriguez-Hardy and Fire Controlman 2nd Class (SW) Jason E. Pugh, members of the Gold Team, said the reason for two watch teams was to create two unique scenarios for each missile system. They said that the watch teams acted as the communications link between combat systems and the weapons systems. Rodriguez-Hardy and Pugh described the long hours of preparation that went into their pivotal roles in the evolution. "We've performed more than 80 hours of pre-fire maintenance on all weapons systems, 40 hours of system testing and 20 hours in briefs and debriefs," said Rodriguez-Hardy, the defense weapons coordinator for the Gold Team. "It's a big stress relief to know that we're capable of defense," he added. Pugh, the Gold Team NATO supervisor's console operator, noted that the success also had an impact on the morale of the operators and crew. "This test makes or breaks the defense mentality of the entire ship," he said. "It's the first step in a trust-building foundation, between the systems operators and the rest of the crew." The lengthy systems certification process, which involved weapons onload and system approval from Carrier Strike Group 2 and the Board of Inspection and Survey (INSURV), directly involved the aircraft carrier's Weapons department. According to Aviation Ordnanceman 1st Class (AW/SW) Chris J. Morrison of Weapons department, the certification involved every member of the Weapons Inventory Control. "We had to verify and requisition the exact missiles being used in the launch," he said. "Once missiles were on board, we were responsible for turning them over to Combat Systems personnel. From there we inspected, stowed and moved the missiles to the launchers." In addition to all the preparation that went into the test, Vliet described how the systems operators had to be fully prepared to handle any situation. "The operators and technical experts have got to be ready and fully understand all of the dud and misfire procedures in the event of an equipment or missile casualty," Morrison said.
Ramirez reaffirmed the team's readiness with confidence.
"We're fully trained and capable to handle misfires," he said. "We're ready no matter what happens. We are here to defend the ship. We're ready and willing to do our job."
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Mar 29 Juin 2010 - 12:24 | |
| Vers des réductions budgétaires “extrêmes” pour l’US Navy ? - Citation :
Task force: Budget fix requires extreme cuts
Cut two carriers and 40 percent of new ballistic-missile subs, then slash the fleet to 230 ships and eight air wings. Terminate the F-35, Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle and V-22 Osprey. Drop down to six expeditionary strike groups, eliminate the maritime prepositioning force and place greater emphasis on surging smaller naval groups as needed. These are but some of the eyebrow-raising recommendations provided to Congress on June 10 by the Sustainable Defense Task Force. The group was formed at the request of Reps. Barney Frank, D-Mass.; Walter B. Jones, R-N.C.; and Ron Paul, R-Texas; and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore. The task force proposal amounts to $1.1 trillion in defense cuts over 10 years. Slightly more than half of that amount comes from personnel budgets; the rest comes by cutting research, development and procurement of weapons systems. While acknowledging that its recommendations will be hard for some to accept, the task force defended its report, saying a “significant number of the cuts that we propose and review represent outdated, wasteful and ineffective systems that could be foregone without any arguable impact on our national security.” But not everyone is in full agreement — and that begins with one of the lawmakers who helped form the task force. Jones told Navy Times that a strong military is absolutely necessary, but he requested the task force be formed because “this country is in very deep financial trouble, and I think it’s going to get worse.” He desires careful and complete review of federal spending — including defense spending — but said he does not agree with all of the task force’s recommendations. Specifically, he supports the continuation of the V-22 and opposes a reduction of Navy ships. Jones said he is opposed to the number of worldwide bases the military now maintains. “I don’t know how we can continue to support the bases, particularly these that have been in certain countries for over 60 or 70 years,” he said. “I think we have to be smarter with our situation.” With an eye on diminishing budgets and rising tensions with Iran and North Korea, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Gary Roughead on June 24 called for continued international partnerships to hone a “just and sustainable international order.” He also continued his call for fiscal restraint, emphasizing that the Navy “cannot afford a tailor-made solution to every need that we have.” But the CNO still is adamant that a 313-ship Navy is needed to maintain maritime security. Loren Thompson, chief operating officer of Lexington Institute, a military consulting firm, said he “skimmed the report and moved on,” but also cautioned that the recommendations reflect the kind of political environment the Navy will be facing in the next decade. “It will have to fight every budget year to prove the fleet is relevant,” he said. “We are talking about a country that is spending a trillion dollars each year it does not have. At some point, something has to give.” Thompson took issue with, and laughed at, some of the report’s recommendations, notably that the military does not need a new fighter jet. “The Super Hornet is a great aircraft,” Thompson said. “But the F-35 purchase covers the next four decades, and I’m not sure I would want to fly a non-stealthy aircraft against Chinese air defenses 20 years from now.” Rep. Joe Courtney, D-Conn., also takes issue with some of the report’s recommendations — specifically, the call to reduce ballistic-missile subs to seven. The plan for 12 new boomers to replace the retiring Ohio class is a standing point of contention, as it carries an $80 billion price tag. That would consume half of the Navy’s shipbuilding budget for 14 years. While the task force looks to reduce boomers to save money, Courtney is looking for alternate funding. He wants to separate programs like SSBN(X) — the replacement for the Ohio class — from the military’s budget and place them in their own national security funding stream, in much the same way missile defense and sealift/auxiliary ships are funded. He said that “no serious analysis” has said it is possible to meet mission requirements with fewer than 48 attack subs and 12 boomers: At that point, he said, “you’re ending up with shadow Navy.” navytimes | |
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Mar 29 Juin 2010 - 12:48 | |
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Mar 29 Juin 2010 - 13:04 | |
| ca sera le debut de la fin de l´hegemonie US si executé,mais il n´y a pas d´autres solutions en fait,ils reconnaissent eux meme - Citation :
- “this country is in very deep financial trouble, and I think it’s going to get worse.”
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Mar 29 Juin 2010 - 13:37 | |
| Mais le lobbying des industriels est trés puissant .. Pourtant, il faut absolument que la flotte US "réduise" significativement la voilure .. _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Mer 30 Juin 2010 - 0:49 | |
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- Mais le lobbying des industriels est trés puissant ..
Ce lobbying est désormais condamné fremo, il est montré du doigt comme le principal facteur derrière l'implication des USA dans les guerres d'afghanistan et d'irak, pour relancer l'industrie militaire et débloquer les millirads pour les programmes d'achats d'armes et d'équipements... résultat, le pays est ruiné! |
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Mer 30 Juin 2010 - 1:51 | |
| à mon avis cette situation là est la véritable victoire des taleb et du fantôme d'Al Quaeda ... avoir réussit en 10 ans à divertir et ponctionner de manière énorme les budgets défense des pays de l'OTAN et à créer de nouvelles tensions entre les chapelles. _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Ven 2 Juil 2010 - 12:23 | |
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- U.S. Aegis Radars' Readiness Plunges
The advanced radar systems aboard U.S. cruisers and destroyers are in their worst shape ever, according to an independent probe into U.S. Navy readiness, raising questions about the surface fleet's ability to take on its high-profile new mission next year defending Europe from ballistic missiles.
Poor training, impenetrable bureaucracy and cultural resignation have caused a spike in the number of technical problems and a dip in the operational performance of the Aegis system, considered the crown jewel of the U.S. surface force, the investigation found.
And if that's the situation with Aegis - which includes warships' iconic, hexagonal SPY 1 radar arrays - the panel wondered what that could mean for other, lower-profile equipment.
"The SPY radar has historically been the best supported system in the surface Navy, and coincidentally supports one of the most critical Navy missions today: ballistic missile defense. Yet SPY manpower, parts, training and performance are in decline."
If that's the case, the report said, "it can be assumed that less important systems could well be in worse material condition."
The findings came in the report of the "fleet review panel," convened last September by Adm. John Harvey, head of Fleet Forces Command, to conduct an outside assessment into the readiness of the surface force. The seven-member panel, which was chaired by retired Vice Adm. Phillip Balisle and included two serving admirals, produced a comprehensive indictment of Navy decision-making since the late 1990s: Admirals' preoccupation with saving money, which led them to cut crews and "streamline" training and maintenance, led to a surface force that can't keep its ships in fighting shape.
The Balisle panel's report, which has not been publicly released, was obtained by Navy Times, a sister publication to Defense News. Navy officials in the Pentagon deferred questions about it to Naval Sea Systems Command. NavSea officials did not respond by the time this newspaper went to press.
Although sailors and other observers have said before that cuts in crew sizes hurt readiness, Balisle's report is the first to detail so many problems with Aegis, widely considered the world's finest seagoing radar and combat system. It is so powerful and adaptable, in fact, the Obama administration is counting on it becoming a permanent ballistic missile defense shield for Europe next year, taking the place of ground-based sensors and weapons as U.S. warships make standing patrols in the Mediterranean.
But Aegis, like the rest of the fleet, has become a victim of personnel cuts and the Navy's labyrinthine internal organization, the report said. Casualty reports are up 41 percent from fiscal year 2004, and those requiring technical assistance are up 45 percent.
Over the same period, SPY radar performance, as observed by the Board of Inspection and Survey, has steadily worsened for cruisers and destroyers.
The report includes a sample of eight cruisers visited in the past several months by InSurv, whose scores on Aegis readiness form a distinct downward trend. Causes
What's causing it? The panel found many reasons, including: ■ There aren't enough qualified people in the right jobs. ■ Sailors aren't fully trained on maintaining the radars. ■ It's too much work navigating the Navy bureaucracy to order replacement parts, and as such, crews have grown to accept "degradation," Balisle's panel found.
For example, ships are not ordering replacement voltage regulators, the report said, which SPY radars need to help manage their prodigious consumption of ship's power. Crews aren't ordering them because technicians can't get the money to buy spares, so commanders are knowingly taking a risk in operating their Aegis systems without replacements. "The technicians can't get the money to buy spare parts," the report said. "They haven't been trained to the requirement. They can't go to their supervisor because, in the case of the DDGs, they likely are the supervisor. They can't repair the radar through no fault of their own, but over time, the non-responsiveness of the Navy system, the acceptance of the SPY degradation by the Navy system and their seniors, officers and chiefs alike, will breed (if not already) a culture that tolerates poor system performance. The fact that requests for technical assistance are up Navy-wide suggests there is a diminished self-sufficiency in the surface force. Sailors are losing their sense of ownership of their equipment and are more apt to want others to fix it."
Naval expert A.D. Baker III, a retired Office of Naval Intelligence analyst and longtime editor of "Combat Fleets of the World," called the Balisle findings "utterly damning."
"The Aegis readiness shortfall is just one of a vast number of problems related to pushing people too far and not giving them the training or funding resources to carry out their duties properly," Baker said. He said the report's findings showed the Defense Department's priorities for European ballistic missile defense had been misplaced.
"This will significantly affect our putative BMD capability. The [Pentagon's] money is going to missile development and procurement, not to maintenance of the detection and tracking system - without which the best missiles in the world won't be of much use."
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Lun 5 Juil 2010 - 12:56 | |
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- General Dynamics Awarded $52 Million for Maintenance Work on USS New Mexico
General Dynamics Electric Boat has been awarded a $51.8 million contract modification by the U.S. Navy to plan and perform the post-shakedown availability (PSA) on the nuclear submarine USS New Mexico (SSN-779). Electric Boat is a wholly owned subsidiary of General Dynamics (NYSE: GD).
The PSA, which will comprise maintenance, repairs, alterations and testing, will be performed in Groton and is expected to begin this month. Up to 450 employees will be engaged in the work, which is scheduled for completion by July 2011.
USS New Mexico is the sixth ship of the Virginia Class of submarines. Electric Boat and its construction teammate, Northrop Grumman Shipbuilding, have received contracts to produce a total of 18 Virginia-class submarines. Thirty ships are planned altogether.
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Lun 5 Juil 2010 - 13:06 | |
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- Submarine Missouri Completes First Voyage
The nation's newest and most advanced nuclear-powered attack submarine, Missouri (SSN-780), returned to the Electric Boat shipyard today following the successful completion of its first voyage in open seas, called alpha sea trials.
Missouri is the seventh ship of the Virginia Class, the most capable class of attack submarines ever built. Electric Boat is a wholly owned subsidiary of General Dynamics (NYSE: GD).
Missouri's alpha sea trials included a range of submarine and propulsion- plant operations, submerging for the first time, and high-speed runs on and below the surface to demonstrate that the ship's propulsion plant is fully mission-capable.
The sea trials were directed by U.S. Navy Adm. Kirkland Donald, director - Naval Nuclear Propulsion. Also participating in the sea trials were Rear Adm. William Hilarides, program executive officer - Submarines; Rear Adm. Michael McLaughlin, commander - Submarine Group Two; Capt. Leslie Elkin, supervisor of shipbuilding in Groton; and John P. Casey, president of Electric Boat. Missouri is commanded by Cmdr. Timothy A. Rexrode.
"The crew and shipbuilders worked together seamlessly to take this submarine to sea and put it through its paces," said Electric Boat President John P. Casey. "It was a superb effort by everyone involved, and reflects the commitment of the Navy/industry team to sustain the success of the Virginia- class submarine program. I deeply appreciate the contributions made by the Navy personnel, shipbuilders and suppliers who made it happen."
Electric Boat and its major subcontractor, Northrop Grumman Shipbuilding, have received contracts to build the first 18 submarines of a planned 30- ship Virginia Class under a teaming agreement that splits the construction workload between the two shipyards.
Virginia-Class characteristics:
• Displacement: 7,835 tons • Length: 377 feet • Beam: 34 feet • Payload: 40 weapons; special operations forces; unmanned undersea vehicles; Tomahawk land-attack missiles; Mark 48 • Weapons: advanced capability torpedoes • Crew: 134 officers and enlisted men
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Lun 5 Juil 2010 - 13:22 | |
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USS Freedom Up Close
Posted 7/3/2010 Lt. Cmdr. Earl Timmons assigned to the littoral combat ship USS Freedom explains the specifics of Freedom's Mk-110 57 mm gun to visitors during a public tour of the ship at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam. Freedom is participating in Rim of the Pacific 2010, the worldÂ’s largest international maritime exercise. Photo by Lt. Ed Early strategypage | |
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| Sujet: Re: US Navy Mer 7 Juil 2010 - 14:02 | |
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Lockheed Martin Delivers 100,000th Paveway II Enhanced Laser Guided Training Round To the U.S. Navy
July 6, 2010 by Rob Vogelaar · Leave a Comment
ARCHBALD, PA, July 6th, 2010 — Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] celebrated a production milestone recently with the delivery of the 100,000th Paveway II Enhanced Laser Guided Training Round (ELGTR) to the U.S. Navy. Lockheed Martin has produced ELGTRs for the U.S. Navy and international customers since 1992. Current production is part of a five year, $114 million contract awarded in April 2005. The ELGTR is recognized worldwide as the only live-fire training solution for Warfighters, and is compatible with F/A-18, AV-8B, F-16 and multiple international aircraft. ELGTR provides cost-effective training for all Paveway II laser guided weapons, maintaining aircrew proficiency without depleting the Paveway II Laser Guided Bomb (LGB) tactical inventory. “For two decades, the U.S. Navy/Lockheed Martin team has fully embraced the concept of continuous product improvement, providing the highest fidelity, cost effective live-drop trainer to the Warfighter,” said Joe Serra, senior manager for Precision Guided Systems at Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control. “Upon reaching this milestone, ELGTR users have realized a combined savings in excess of $1.3 billion when compared to training with Paveway II tactical weapons.” The ELGTR emulates the release envelope, flight characteristics and accuracy of Paveway II laser guided weapons. Live-fire training permits aircrews to practice delivery tactics in a real-mission environment and experience actual weapon characteristics within today’s range limitations. “The ELGTR is a reliable and cost-effective tactical employment tool that enables our aircrews to efficiently train for and maintain combat readiness,” said Capt. Carl Chebi, U.S. Navy Precision Strike Weapons program manager. In addition to the Paveway II ELGTR, Lockheed Martin’s 350,000-square foot production facility, located in Northeastern Pennsylvania, designs and manufactures Paveway II LGB kits, Paveway II Dual Mode Laser Guided Bomb kits, specialized instrumentation and control systems, and provides manufacturing services, such as state-of-the-art metal crafting and electro-mechanical assemblies. Source and picture: Lockheed Martin http://www.aviationnews.eu/category/military-aviation-news/ | |
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