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Official designation: Fighter China-1 (FC-1) Xiaolong
PAF designation: Joint Fighter-17 (JF-17) Thunder
Function: Air-superiority; Ground attack
Designer: Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute (611 Institute)
Manufacturer: Chengdu Aircraft Industry (Group) Corporation Ltd. (CAC)
Maiden flight: 25 August 2003
Operator: Pakistani Air Force
Estimated cost: US$15~20 million
The FC-1 (Fighter China-1) Xiaolong is the result of a joint Sino-Pakistani development programme that started in 1999, with each side contributing 50% of the total development cost. Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) of China is the prime contractor for aircraft development and manufacture, while Pakistani Aeronautical Complex (PAC) is the main partner responsible for post-sale service and maintenance, as well as the production of some parts for the aircraft in Pakistan. The aircraft was designed by Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute (611 Institute). Russia supplied its Klimov RD-93 turbofan jet engine for the aircraft.
The initial order was from the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) for eight aircraft, which were delivered in 2007~08. A further order for 42 aircraft worth about US$800 million was signed in March 2009. The aircraft is currently being built by CAC at a rate of 15 aircraft per annum, and this will increase to 30 aircraft per annum later. The total number required by the PAF could be as many as 250, worth US$3~5 billion.
Several other countries also showed interest in the aircraft. Despite previous reports suggesting that the FC-1 would also be equipped by the PLAAF, no order has been reported so far.
http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/fc1.asp
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French authorities have given approval for industry to offer a Thales RC 400 airborne fire control radar and MBDA Mica air-to-air missiles to Pakistan, to be fitted on the JF-17 jet fighter built under license from China, a Pakistani official said.
“They are cleared for export negotiation,” the official said.
The sale has raised concerns of a potential breach of the EU military embargo on China.
Pakistan and France have drawn up a memorandum of understanding in which Islamabad promises not to release technology to China, the Pakistani official said. French industry submitted prices about a year and a half ago for the gear and these were no longer valid. With export clearance, commercial negotiations can take place.
The Délégation Générale pour l’Armement arms agency, MBDA and Thales declined comment.
Source: DefenseNews.com
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Serial production of JF-17 aircraft to start soon, NA body told
ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) would soon start serial production of JF-17 Thunder in collaboration with China, Standing Committee of the National Assembly on Defence Production was informed on Thursday.
The committee, headed by Sheikh Aftab Ahmad, visited the PAC and was given a detailed briefing on the ongoing projects. PAC Chairman Air Marshal Khalid Chaudhry gave a detailed briefing on the projects, informing them that the PAC has set up the factory for initiating the serial aircraft’s production. He said PAC had the capability to manufacture 75 percent of avionics and 58 percent of air-frame of the fighter aircraft.
About other projects being carried out by PAC, he said facility had been overhauling around 180 engines of various fighter jets and 60 aircraft a year. He also said the Mirage Rebuild Factory, which is a part of PAC has been rebuilding 35-year old Mirage aircraft, which were bought as scrap from various countries.
The chairman as well as members of the committee appreciated the work being carried out at PAC. They assured their full support to the management of PAC. app
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009\01\02\story_2-1-2009_pg7_26
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French arms deal with Pakistan risks US ire
By Federico Bordonaro
The news last month that Pakistan is likely to get French air-to-air missiles (AAMs) and radar for its JF-17 fighter aircraft has raised some eyebrows in the US.
The reason is that MICA AAMs produced by MBDA and RC-400 multimission radar built by Thales may enrich China's rapidly growing military capabilities if sold to Pakistan, since Islamabad is developing its fighter plane jointly with Beijing. The JF-17 is a lightweight multi-role fighter co-developed by Pakistan

Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation under a joint venture of China and Pakistan.
Thus, some observers say, the widely debated European Union arm systems ban against China may finally be circumvented, in such a way that it could damage US efforts to keep Beijing's air power at disadvantage vis-a-vis Taiwan. As some Indian and Pakistani sources have pointed out, French-built Mirage fighters owned by Taiwan are actually equipped with such missiles and radar.
Taiwan and India are obviously concerned with China's military build-up. If China gets the chance to closely look at French advanced technology in possession of Taipei, Beijing could theoretically become capable of countering it effectively.
However, it must be noted that the issue of military technology transfer is fairly complicated, and that Pakistan's acquisition of French systems is not automatically a dramatic reinforcement of Chinese capabilities, unlike some reports suggest.
In fact, if French companies sell radar and missiles to Pakistan, they don't sell the know-how necessary to build such systems from scratch. Clearly, bits of the source code needed to integrate the components into the JF-17 will be transferred by the French to the Pakistanis. Missile-radar integration and avionics will be developed by France and Pakistan, with the Chinese contribution focused on hardware.
This means that if Pakistan transfers such code to Beijing, China could actually become capable of integrating the two systems into its fighter jets (like the J-10), although it will not include the JF-17 in its air force. But it does not mean that Beijing will be able to produce such systems.
Therefore, the key variable here is how many MICAs and RC-400s France sells to Pakistan. Of course, if Islamabad buys new series of them after the first acquisition, it is conceivable that China could get its hand on them in the future, independently of the JF-17 development.
Rumors of the deaL
It is certainly no secret that France has eyed Indian and Pakistani defense markets as a great opportunity to expand its strong military-industrial sector. For years, French companies have provided weapons and systems to both Delhi and Islamabad. However, the deal regarding the JF-17 has been a difficult one, mainly for political-diplomatic reasons. This explains the lack of information from France and the extreme cautiousness in all aspects of the current arrangements.
After some leading British and US publications highlighted the danger of sensitive military technology transfer to China via Pakistan, officials from MBDA and Thales refused to comment on the deal. France's Defense Minister Herve Morin subtly conveyed the Paris position nonetheless, as he replied to Associated Press journalists that "to my knowledge, there is no arms embargo for Pakistan".
Back in September 2004, Jane's Defence Weekly's special correspondent Robert Sae-Liu reported that the choice of a multimode pulse-Doppler radar for the JF-17 fighter was reported in 2003 as "involving a competition between Phazotron of Russia with the Kopyo system, Galileo (FIAR) of Italy with the Grifo S-7, and Thales of France with the RC 400".
Hence, a short history of the JF-17 project unveils Thales' interest. The simple fact that two French companies are involved in the issue worries the US. Paris has long lobbied within the EU for lifting of the arms embargo against Beijing imposed by Europe after the 1989 Tienanmen incident.
Most French Gaullists and Socialists have pushed for a lifting of the ban. The reason is twofold. On one hand, the French defense industry is aggressively seeking expansion in Asia's markets, and China is arguably the most interesting of them. On the other hand, Paris cultivates the geopolitical ambition of creating a multipolar world in which the EU will progressively acquire strategic autonomy from the United States.
However, President Nicolas Sarkozy's election in May 2007 has started an apparently rapid and powerful rapprochement between Paris and Washington on a number of issues. Interestingly, some French analysts who deal with so-called "economic warfare" dynamics have recently criticized France's pro-China orientation. They have even lambasted civilian air industry deals with Beijing made by Airbus, reasoning that French companies that only seek market opportunities will eventually jeopardize European technological superiority over China.
Up until this year, though, Washington has successfully counter-lobbied France's efforts to persuade its EU partners about the anachronism of the embargo, and the ban is still valid despite numerous predictions of its imminent demise. Now, Sino-Pakistani military cooperation, which is likely to remain strong also in light of the growing US-Indian strategic partnership, could complicate the situation even more.
Washington furious?
While on the surface the Franco-American reconciliation is fully underway, the reality is slightly more complicated. Paris' hard, pro-US stance on Iran's nuclear issue is one thing; another matter is how France and the US perceive the international system and balance of power.
Sarkozy's position on the arms ban against Beijing will possibly become clearer after the French president visits Beijing later this year, but it is unlikely that France will completely abandon its dream of a more assertive and autonomous Europe when it comes to security and defense policy.
Quoted by the Pakistani daily Dawn on September 14, British defense analyst and Asia specialist Alexander Neill said that Washington may have a "quite vicious" reaction if France does not reconsider selling such systems to Islamabad.
However, according to various sources, France and Pakistan will likely reach an agreement on the missiles and radar. It is thus possible that China will be able to exploit yet another fault line in French and American diplomacy.
Whether or not the development of the JF-17 will allow China to acquire military systems and technology that will boost its power in relation to Taiwan, as the US fears, such a program will likely cause a dilemma for France: by proceeding with enhanced cooperation with Pakistan, Paris risks not only triggering Washington's ire, but also upsetting India and Taiwan - thereby complicating its future defense marketing with two important buyers.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IJ10Df01.html
c'est sur qu'une participation marocaine à ce programme ne serait pas de refus,c'est un chasseur parfait pour nos besoins,en plus pas cher 15M $ l'unité

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MAR-1 Anti-Radiation Missile (Brazil), Air-to-surface missiles - Direct attack

Brazil has a long-term project to build an anti-radiation missile, known as MAR-1. The missile is being developed by a teaming of the national missile developers Mectron and the Air Force's Aerospace Technical Centre (CTA), both based at São José dos Campos. There existence of the MAR-1 has been speculated on for many years, but was never confirmed by the Brazilian authorities who viewed it as a highly sensitive programme. Mectron has also declined comment on the status of the MAR-1, except to say that it is a live programme conducted jointly with the CTA. In 2004 sources in the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) confirmed that the MAR-1 was nearing the end of its development and that a preliminary operational capability would be fielded in 2005. Since then, further flight tests have been conducted by the FAB. No announcement has been made that the missile has been formally accepted into service but production has been underway at a rate of about one per month. In 2008 the MAR-1 was exhibited in public with a FAB A-1 (AMX) attack aircraft for the first time. In December 2008 the Brazilian government confirmed an order for 100 MAR-1 missiles to the Pakistan Air Force. It is not clear if the deal covers finished weapons only or includes an element of joint technology development.
http://articles.janes.com/articles/Janes-Air-Launched-Weapons/MAR-1-Anti-Radiation-Missile-Brazil.html

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unknown pod ?!!
Il me semble que c'est le canon interne, si on parle de la même chose.
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Oui mais le canon est bien réel, le montage c'est le plan canard, tu peux voir le canon sur la photo juste au dessus dans le post de Famas (protubérance sous l'entrée d'air).
Edit: la voilà la photo.
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oui ça a l'air d'un pod à 1ère vue

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Oui, heureusement que sur ta photo on voit clairement que des balles sortent de là, grâce à la fente dans le fuselage juste devant la bouche du canon.
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et voici le Jammer du JF17

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Pas que le canard, il y a l'aile pliable aussi, navalisable za3ma...
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+ air-air refueling capacity + enhanced payload

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PAC announces start of JF-17 Block 2 construction

The Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) on 18 December rolled out its 50th and final JF-17 Block 1 Thunder fighter aircraft, and announced the launch of Block 2 production.

A ceremony to mark the event at PAC's Kamra facility north of Islamabad was attended by prime minister Nawaz Sharif, who also witnessed the Pakistan Air Force and PAC sign a formal agreement with China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC) for joint international sales and marketing of the aircraft.

Sharif said the success of the JF-17 programme, a collaboration between China's Chengdu Aircraft Corporation and the PAF-run PAC, "shows that our air force is fully capable of defending our country".

According to a PAF press release, Block 2 JF-17s "will have improved versions of avionics sub-systems, air-to-air refuelling capability, additional weapon-carrying capability, optimised maintenance facilitation and some operational capabilities".

The statement did not provide further details on any of these systems but added that "Pakistan's share in co-production of the airframe of the JF-17 aircraft is 58%".

PAF officials at the 2013 Dubai Airshow told IHS Jane's that a Block 3 variant of the JF-17 "exists in the form of a conceptual design and a list of mission requirements but no concrete decisions have been made about the choice and configuration of the onboard systems for the aircraft". IHS Jane's All the World's Aircraft notes that the Block 3 upgrade is planned to be launched in 2016, and in the meantime CAC and PAC are collaborating in developing a combat-capable, two-seat conversion trainer variant that is expected to enhance export prospects.

Air Vice Marshal Javaid Ahmed, head of the JF-17 programme for the PAF, told IHS Jane's that potential customers for the existing version of the aircraft were likely to come from South America, Africa, the Middle East or Southeast Asia. "These countries of the developing world will be attracted to this aircraft given its specifications and a competitive price," he said.

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Western analysts in Islamabad who are familiar with the progress of the JF-17 fighter plane said the PAF/PAC collaboration with CATIC is built primarily on providing developing countries with a cheaper alternative to expensive Western aircraft.

Although neither China nor Pakistan have publicly disclosed a price tag, a senior Pakistani government official told IHS Jane's that it could be in the range of around USD25 million per aircraft. A Western defence official based in Islamabad added that this price "could be about half to one-third of the price of a comparable Western fighter".

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The JF-17 Block-II — the upgrade version of the JF-17 Thunder or Xiaolong fighter jet co-designed by China and Pakistan — is likely to be a very popular combat aircraft among developing nations, according to the Diplomat, an online current affairs magazine based in Tokyo.

Quoting reports from the Washington-based online portals Defense News and Defense Talk, the Diplomat stated that Pakistan has recently launched production of the JF-17 Block-II at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex near Islamabad. The country expects to begin exporting the aircraft next year, the report said, adding the newer JF-17 Block-II variants possesses more advanced weapons systems and avionics.

"We've been getting inquiries and expressions of interest for the JF-17 Thunder from many countries in the Middle East, Africa and from as far as South America," said Air Marshal Sohail Gul Khan of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex.

A report published in 2010 indicated that the potential buyers of JF-17 includes Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Congo, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Nigeria, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkey, Venezuela and Zimbabwe.

The Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has already produced 50 older and less-advanced JF-17 Block-1 fighters for the nation's air force. This low-cost multirole single engine fighter was originally co-designed by China's Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex. In China, the aircraft is called the FC-1 Xiaolong or Fierce Dragon.

Earlier last week, Pakistani prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, visited the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex to officially inaugurate the beginning of the Block-II production. The event was also attended by Chinese delegates and the Pakistan air force, the Diplomat said.

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ISLAMABAD - The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) would brief Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on the proposed measures for enhancing defence production exports, during his scheduled visit to a key PAF facility today (Wednesday).

The PM would be visiting Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) Kamra to receive the relevant briefings on the contemplated exports of the PAF aircraft, especially the JF-17 Thunder, sources in PAF informed The Nation on Tuesday.

The PAF top command led by Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt would reportedly give the relevant briefings on the contemplated measures to export the JF-17 Thunder to some countries, the officials said.

Presently, 49 JF-17 Thunder aircraft are part of the PAF operational fleet of fighter jets.
The report on progress made in the contemplated exports in the context of the last month's Dubai Air Show would reportedly be given to the premier. Two kinds of PAF aircraft, JF-17 Thunder and Super Mushshak, were showcased for static and aerial display in Dubai Air Show. In November last year, JF-17 Thunder was showcased in China Air Show.

The PAF sources said, Air Vice Marshal Sohail Gul Khan, Chairman PAC Kamra, AVM Javaid Ahmed, Chief Project Director JF-17 Thunder, and Air Commodore Khalid Mehmood Project Director JF-17 would give the technical briefings to the PM. AVM Asad Lodhi, Director General Defence Purchase, AVM Arshad Malik, Air Officer Commanding (AOC) Northern Command, Air Commodore Sohail Ahmed, Joint Secretary II Ministry of Defence Production (MoDP) and newly promoted AVM Nudrat Kazmi, who has reportedly remained closely involved with the JF-17 Thunder project, would also give the related briefings, the officials added.

The PM would also chair a related ceremony on the induction of fresh fleet of JF-17 Thunder in the PAF.
The PAF command, the officials said, is seeking technical input on the JF-17 Thunder project from Air Marshal Farhat Hussain Khan, who has proceeded on LPR (leave preparatory to retirement) owing to his scheduled retirement.

In addition, the incumbent Federal Government is said to have given a 'positive' response to the PAF proposed initiative to export JF-17 Thunder to some prospective buyer states, which, the PAF sources claim, have taken 'keen interest' in purchasing the aircraft from the Pakistani armed force. Of these states, the officials said, intense deliberations are under way with Turkey, Sri Lanka, United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

"There are a few other states, mostly less developing ones, with which the negotiations are at a preliminary stage," the insiders informed, adding that the PAF, if continuously supported by the government in terms of resisting the international pressure, would be able to export the JF-17 Thunder in the coming years.

"There has been enormous international pressure coming from some developed states that oppose exporting JF-17 Thunder project. It's up to the government to withstand these kinds of pressures and the PAF will be able to launch the aircraft exports in the coming times, a couple of years at least," a senior PAF official stated.
Jointly manufactured by Aviation Industry Corp of China and the PAC Kamra, JF-17 Thunder is originally a Chinese product, with the related technology shifted to Pakistan in the recent years. Regarded as a third-generation multipurpose combat jet, the JF-17 Thunder, in technical terms, is known as FC-1 Fierce Dragon. The PAF says, it is the only armed force across the globe to have developed its own fighter jet aircraft. It says, the JF-17 can carry a variety of missiles and bombs, including air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles. It merits recalling here that PM Nawaz Sharif along with a delegation of PAC Kamra had visited Turkish Aerospace Industries in September this year to witness demonstration of T-129 Advance Attack and Tactical Reconnaissance Helicopter. The contemplated export of JF-17 Thunder was also discussed then, the PAF sources said

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on apprend que :

* c'est le radar PESA KLJ-7 qui a été adopté pour le block II

* le AESA ça sera pour block III

* le général de la PAF avoue que le F16block52 "is more advanced than J10B"

* RA'AD cruise missile offert pour le block II

* un DATA LINK ajouté au Block II

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Requesting anonymity, a retired air vice marshal said, Pakistan’s security establishment was in negotiations with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Qatar and UAE for selling JF-17 Thunder. “There are reports that Saudi Arabia has refused to buy Pakistan’s fighter jets which implies that pressure must have mounted on the defence and military bosses to use their clout on this count in getting a breakthrough with other states even if the issue does not officially concern them.”
Talking to The Nation, Air Commodore (r) Manzoor Hussain, a defence analyst, said the issue of JF-17 Thunder sell-off carried national importance. “It is a matter of wider national interest and not something specifically pertaining to the PAF. And if you look into the things in this particular context, it stands reasoned to see the military authorities pursing the matter, officially and unofficially.”
Lately, the reports suggest, Pakistan was in negotiations with the Saudi authorities for selling JF-17 Thunder before the Saudi Arabian defence minister and Crown Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud is said to have communicated his government’s refusal to buy JF-17 Thunder during his recent visit to Pakistan. The Saudi authorities, according to the media reports, had agreed to but six JF-17 Thunder jets.
Earlier, Gen Raheel Sharif had visited Saudi Arabia in the first week of February.
“Some countries oppose Pakistan selling the fighter jets to another state. It would be really tricky and challenging to get a breakthrough in this regard,” Manzoor Hussain believed.
On the COAS visit to UAE, a one-line from Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) stated that the army chief had left for two-day official visit to the UAE, without sharing any additional information.
The general is scheduled to meet the UAE’s top government functionaries including UAE Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan.

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CATIC has entered discussions with up to eight countries about the Chengdu/Pakistan Aeronautical Complex JF-17 fighter, but political turmoil in the Middle East has delayed a foreign purchase of the aircraft.

Speaking to Flightglobal at the AVIC stand at Airshow China in Zhuhai, CATIC vice-president Zeng Wen says some of the nations could be getting close to signing a contract.This positive attitude mirrors comments by CATIC and Pakistani officials over the last few years.

One Pakistani official, however, says political turmoil following the Arab Spring revolutions in some Middle Eastern nations has delayed take-up of the new type, which is designed to be a cost-effective fighter ideal for the air forces of developing nations.

Zeng adds that CATIC and the Pakistan air force will continue to push for overseas sales, and to attend more air shows. He could not say whether the JF-17 will appear at the Paris air show in June 2015, however.

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When asked about the heavy promotion of the developmental Shenyang J-31 at the Zhuhai show, Zeng says CATIC is "not involved too much in this aircraft". He expresses similar sentiment about the Xian Y-20 transport, which also appeared at the show.

Longer term, however, he foresees potential for China to sell advanced fighters beyond the JF-17.

"The development of technology will see our customers come to us with upgrade requests," he says. "This kind of high technology, advanced aircraft should meet somebody's request in the future."

As for other types, Zeng confirms that the Hongdu L-15 advanced jet/lead-in fighter trainer has found an export customer. He declines to specify the country or the number of aircraft involved, but Flightglobal's MiliCAS database records the Zambian air force as having six of the type on firm order. Work is being undertaken with the type to increase the range of weapons it can carry.

"I'm confident the L-15 compares favourably to other trainers on the international market, such as the [Korea Aerospace Industries] T-50, the [Alenia Aermacchi] M-346 and the [Irkut] Yak-130," he says.

Zeng adds that there is also strong interest in China's vertical lift products, such as the Harbin Z-9. CATIC's clients are mainly interested in helicopters for search and rescue, counter insurgency and transport missions.

CATIC is a unit of Chinese aerospace conglomerate AVIC. It employs several hundred people and has representatives in 54 countries.
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"As a matter of policy we will add anything to the aircraft that will increase its potential, and even consider a Western engine if the customer so desires. We have spoken to suppliers about this, to Rolls-Royce. So if a customer decides we can do it, we can integrate a new engine. It will take a bit of time, but it can be done."

This is believed to be a reference to an EJ200-powered JF-17 targeted at Saudi Arabia, which in early 2014 discussed possible co-production and financing.
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Vol inaugural pour le JF-17 « Thunder » Block II !  


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Le premier Pakistan Aeronautical Company (PAC) JF-17 « Thunder »  Block II a effectué son vol inaugural à Kamra il y quelques semaines. L’information avait été gardée secrète par les autorités pakistanaises.

L'avion numéro de série 2P01 a depuis son vol inaugural repris l’air par trois fois, avant de finalement de prendre le chemin de l’atelier de peinture. Le JF-17 «Thunder» Block II est doté d’une liaison de données (Link16), d’une meilleure capacité de guerre électronique. L’avion poeut être ravitaillé en vol et disposera d’un armement élargit, notamment avec le missile courte portée A-Darter conçu par le Brésil et l’Afrique du Sud (version pakistanaise uniquement). Le block II sera produit est livré pour 2016.

Radar intermédiaire :

Le JF-17 «Thunder» block II dispose d’un radar intermédiaire, soit  le KLJ-7 fabriqué en Chine par CTEC et il est doté d’une antenne mécanique. Le KLJ est assez proche du RC400 de THALES. On se rappelle d’ailleurs que la société française était en course pour équiper la version pakistanaise de l’avion, mais les tensions entre les deux pays à propos de la vente de sous-marins ont fait avorter ce projet.

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Le standard block III :

En réalité, le standard Block II prépare l’arrivée d’un standard plus évolué du chasseur sino-pakistanais, avec la version définitive de l’avion, soit le Block III qui sera produit à partir de 2020. Cette ultime version recevra un radar à balayage électronique (AESA) dérivé du modèle prévu pour équipe le J-10B chinois. Celui-ci, sera cependant plus petit et donc moins efficient.

En ce qui concerne la version pakistanaise, les block III seront produit de manière indigène mais recevront le radar AESA à Nanjing en Chine.

A propos du JF-17 « Thunder » / FC-1 Xiaolong :



Le JF-17 «Thunder» (Pakistan) ou FC-1 «Xiaolong» (Chine) est une association sino-pakistanaise. Conçu en Chine par le constructeur d’Etat AVIC, il est co-financé par le Pakistan et produit par  PakistanComlex (PAC). Chasseur mono-réacteur propulsé par une version chinoise du réacteur RD-93 dérivé du RD-33 russe, qui équipe le MiG-29. L’avion a effectué son premier vol en septembre 2003. Avion multirôles d’un faible coût, soit environ 20 millions de dollars, il est équipé d’une avionique moderne par rapport aux A-5C et F-7P (dérivés des MiG-19/21).

L’armement comprend deux canons GSh-23 (23mm), jusqu’à 3.700kg/£ 8150 de charge utile. Doté d’armement occidental pour la version JF-17 comme des Sidewinder AIM-9P ou des PL-7/8/9 chinois.

La version chinoise dispose d’une capacité de tir à grande distance avec le missile PL-12/SD-10.

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@ PAC // Vidéo le JF-17 Block I en démo

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Salon du Bourget à Paris, l’avionneur sino-pakistanais Chengdu/Pakistan Aeronautical vient d’annoncer la première commande à l’exportation pour son JF-17 « Thunder ». Sauf que pour l’instant, le nom du client et le nombre d’avions ne sont pas révélés.


Client asiatique :

Selon le responsable de l’Armée de l’air pakistanaise le Général Khalid Mahmood qui dirige le marketing pour la vente du JF-17, le client serait asiatique, mais se refuse à l’identifier pour l’instant. Par contre, on sait que les livraisons débuteront en 2017. Si plusieurs pays semblent intéressé par le JF-17 « Thunder », le Myanmar a débuté des négociations en juin 2014 (article avia news du 18.6.2014) et pourrait être ce premier client. Cependant, l'Azerbaïdjan, le Bangladesh et les Philippines ont eux aussi manifestés de l’intérêt pour l’avion. A suivre..


A propos du JF-17 « Thunder » / FC-1 Xiaolong :

Le JF-17 «Thunder» (Pakistan) ou FC-1 «Xiaolong» (Chine) est une association sino-pakistanaise. Conçu en Chine par le constructeur d’Etat AVIC, il est co-financé par le Pakistan et produit par  PakistanComlex (PAC). Chasseur mono-réacteur propulsé par une version chinoise du réacteur RD-93, dérivé du RD-33 russe, qui équipe le MiG-29. L’avion a effectué son premier vol en septembre 2003. Avion multirôles d’un faible coût, soit environ 20 millions de dollars, il est équipé d’une avionique moderne par rapport aux A-5C et F-7P (dérivés des MiG-19/21).

L’armement comprend deux canons GSh-23 (23mm), jusqu’à 3.700kg/£ 8150 de charge utile. Doté d’armement occidental pour la version JF-17 comme des Sidewinder AIM-9P ou des PL-7/8/9 chinois. La version chinoise dispose d’une capacité de tir à grande distance avec le missile PL-12/SD-10.

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