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Gémini Colonel-Major
messages : 2735 Inscrit le : 09/12/2009 Localisation : Un peu partout!!! Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Sam 15 Juin 2013 - 17:18 | |
| Une virgule qui va couter chére........... 10.5 millions sur 3 ans............sure que cela coutera plus . | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Dim 16 Juin 2013 - 13:54 | |
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- LAS FUERZAS ARMADAS EN LA ENCRUCIJADA
El Ejército no es viable ni sostenible con los actuales presupuestos
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Yakuza Administrateur
messages : 21656 Inscrit le : 15/09/2009 Localisation : 511 Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Dim 16 Juin 2013 - 14:24 | |
| Alloudi tu n´es pas nouveau ze3ma,traduc avec a sahbi https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/t1-reglement-du-forum - Citation :
- 2-2) les langues permisses au forum sont le Francais/Anglais.l'Arabe classique est aussi permit à condition qu'il soit accompagné d'une traduction en francais.
L'armée n'est pas viable ou durable avec les budgets actuelshttp://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=es&to=fr&a=http%3A%2F%2Fpolitica.elpais.com%2Fpolitica%2F2013%2F06%2F15%2Factualidad%2F1371322770_584774.html _________________ | |
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jf16 General de Division
messages : 41658 Inscrit le : 20/10/2010 Localisation : france Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Lun 17 Juin 2013 - 22:23 | |
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jf16 General de Division
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jf16 General de Division
messages : 41658 Inscrit le : 20/10/2010 Localisation : france Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Dim 23 Juin 2013 - 22:39 | |
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rmaf Administrateur
messages : 15609 Inscrit le : 18/03/2007 Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Lun 24 Juin 2013 - 2:01 | |
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Fremo Administrateur
messages : 24818 Inscrit le : 14/02/2009 Localisation : 7Seas Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Mar 25 Juin 2013 - 12:09 | |
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Sam 29 Juin 2013 - 12:59 | |
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jf16 General de Division
messages : 41658 Inscrit le : 20/10/2010 Localisation : france Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Dim 30 Juin 2013 - 16:10 | |
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fighter-jet Adjudant
messages : 335 Inscrit le : 15/11/2008 Localisation : maroc Nationalité :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Lun 1 Juil 2013 - 12:23 | |
| http://hibarif.com/details-2093.html Je sait que ce n'est pas le genre de sources auquel il faut se fier. C'est juste pour l'info | |
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mourad27 Modérateur
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Fremo Administrateur
messages : 24818 Inscrit le : 14/02/2009 Localisation : 7Seas Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Dim 7 Juil 2013 - 17:52 | |
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Fremo Administrateur
messages : 24818 Inscrit le : 14/02/2009 Localisation : 7Seas Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Sam 13 Juil 2013 - 9:08 | |
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jf16 General de Division
messages : 41658 Inscrit le : 20/10/2010 Localisation : france Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Sam 13 Juil 2013 - 17:36 | |
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jf16 General de Division
messages : 41658 Inscrit le : 20/10/2010 Localisation : france Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Sam 13 Juil 2013 - 17:51 | |
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jf16 General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Lun 15 Juil 2013 - 13:52 | |
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FAR SOLDIER General de Division
messages : 7880 Inscrit le : 31/08/2010 Localisation : Nowhere Nationalité :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Mer 24 Juil 2013 - 1:33 | |
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Gémini Colonel-Major
messages : 2735 Inscrit le : 09/12/2009 Localisation : Un peu partout!!! Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Dim 28 Juil 2013 - 18:55 | |
| Le S80 pas avant 2017..... http://www.corlobe.tk/article33369.html | |
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jf16 General de Division
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MAATAWI Modérateur
messages : 14756 Inscrit le : 07/09/2009 Localisation : Maroc Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Sam 3 Aoû 2013 - 13:09 | |
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- UPDATE 2-Spain aims to resell half A400M fleet to ease budget
PARIS/MADRID, Aug 2 (Reuters) - Spain has moved to halve its planned fleet of Airbus A400M military transport planes by offering the rest for export, casting a fresh shadow over Europe's largest defence project as the long-awaited plane goes into service.
The move is the latest sign of pressure on crisis-hit European nations that bought the delayed troop carrier, which itself had to be rescued in 2010 because of a cost blowout blamed on technical, management and political errors.
After a four-year delivery delay, the first A400M flew to its new operating base in Orleans, south of Paris, on Friday.
The aircraft was designed to meet a looming shortfall in military transport capacity among seven European NATO nations: Belgium, Britain, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain and Turkey.
But the 20 billion euro ($26 billion) project went more than 5 billion over budget, forcing buyers to agree a price hike and a cash injection to be repaid from future export royalties.
After reviewing its needs, Spain has reduced its requirement to 14 aircraft instead of 27, a defence official told Reuters.
It has told Airbus Military that the 13 remaining A400M aircraft it has ordered would be available for export. European buyers have ordered a total of 170 A400Ms, reduced from 180.
Although the 2010 rescue package prevents buyers from cancelling further orders outright, the largest customer, Germany, is expected to release 13 of its 53 aircraft for export as a condition of parliamentary approval for the purchase.
Others including France are studying whether they can do the same, defence sources said. But doing so raises thorny issues over export royalties and would require all partners to agree.
FRANCE UNDECIDED
Airbus Military is seen as keen to avoid a premature stampede towards export markets as it seeks to keep factories running to support exports after securing domestic production.
So far Malaysia is the only foreign buyer with 4 on order.
After writing off a total of 4.2 billion euros for its share of losses on the domestic part of the programme, Airbus aims to kickstart a fresh export campaign now that the A400M is in use.
"Export of the A400M is key for the profitability of the programme," spokeswoman Maggie Bergsma said.
"We estimate a market of around 400 aircraft over the next 30 years on top of the current 174 orders."
The prospect of some nations jumping in front of others to export will fuel a debate about when the first royalties would be paid and whether the market would be damaged for others.
But experts say it is unlikely to cause a repeat of the politically explosive discussions of several years ago.
"The economic situation is such that this is the best face-saving opportunity for the nations concerned and I think the programme is now so far down the line that I don't see how it can unravel," said UK-based consultant Alexandra Ashbourne-Walmsley.
"It is just another bump in the road and will take effort to smooth out, but the history of European programmes suggests ... it is the most elegant solution for short-term difficulties."
The Spanish official said no changes would be made until "there's an agreement with all of the partners".
Spain's economy has teetered in and out of recession since 2008, and while financing conditions have improved since it moved away from the brink of a full European bailout, it remains under pressure to cut public spending and a big budget deficit.
France unveiled a six-year defence spending plan on Friday that includes 15 A400M aircraft between 2014 and 2019 but failed to remove uncertainty over the remaining 35 it has on order.
Defence minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said France would still need 50 military transporters of all types in 2025, but left the door open to keeping some older planes longer than expected.
"I haven't yet decided what will happen after 2019. The number of A400M aircraft within the total requirement has not yet been fixed," he told a news conference. http://www.reuters.com | |
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jf16 General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Lun 5 Aoû 2013 - 14:36 | |
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augusta General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Mar 6 Aoû 2013 - 14:45 | |
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- UPDATE 2-Spain aims to resell half A400M fleet to ease budget
PARIS/MADRID, Aug 2 (Reuters) - Spain has moved to halve its planned fleet of Airbus A400M military transport planes by offering the rest for export, casting a fresh shadow over Europe's largest defence project as the long-awaited plane goes into service.
The move is the latest sign of pressure on crisis-hit European nations that bought the delayed troop carrier, which itself had to be rescued in 2010 because of a cost blowout blamed on technical, management and political errors.
After a four-year delivery delay, the first A400M flew to its new operating base in Orleans, south of Paris, on Friday.
The aircraft was designed to meet a looming shortfall in military transport capacity among seven European NATO nations: Belgium, Britain, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain and Turkey.
But the 20 billion euro ($26 billion) project went more than 5 billion over budget, forcing buyers to agree a price hike and a cash injection to be repaid from future export royalties.
After reviewing its needs, Spain has reduced its requirement to 14 aircraft instead of 27, a defence official told Reuters.
It has told Airbus Military that the 13 remaining A400M aircraft it has ordered would be available for export. European buyers have ordered a total of 170 A400Ms, reduced from 180.
Although the 2010 rescue package prevents buyers from cancelling further orders outright, the largest customer, Germany, is expected to release 13 of its 53 aircraft for export as a condition of parliamentary approval for the purchase.
Others including France are studying whether they can do the same, defence sources said. But doing so raises thorny issues over export royalties and would require all partners to agree.
FRANCE UNDECIDED
Airbus Military is seen as keen to avoid a premature stampede towards export markets as it seeks to keep factories running to support exports after securing domestic production.
So far Malaysia is the only foreign buyer with 4 on order.
After writing off a total of 4.2 billion euros for its share of losses on the domestic part of the programme, Airbus aims to kickstart a fresh export campaign now that the A400M is in use.
"Export of the A400M is key for the profitability of the programme," spokeswoman Maggie Bergsma said.
"We estimate a market of around 400 aircraft over the next 30 years on top of the current 174 orders."
The prospect of some nations jumping in front of others to export will fuel a debate about when the first royalties would be paid and whether the market would be damaged for others.
But experts say it is unlikely to cause a repeat of the politically explosive discussions of several years ago.
"The economic situation is such that this is the best face-saving opportunity for the nations concerned and I think the programme is now so far down the line that I don't see how it can unravel," said UK-based consultant Alexandra Ashbourne-Walmsley.
"It is just another bump in the road and will take effort to smooth out, but the history of European programmes suggests ... it is the most elegant solution for short-term difficulties."
The Spanish official said no changes would be made until "there's an agreement with all of the partners".
Spain's economy has teetered in and out of recession since 2008, and while financing conditions have improved since it moved away from the brink of a full European bailout, it remains under pressure to cut public spending and a big budget deficit.
France unveiled a six-year defence spending plan on Friday that includes 15 A400M aircraft between 2014 and 2019 but failed to remove uncertainty over the remaining 35 it has on order.
Defence minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said France would still need 50 military transporters of all types in 2025, but left the door open to keeping some older planes longer than expected.
"I haven't yet decided what will happen after 2019. The number of A400M aircraft within the total requirement has not yet been fixed," he told a news conference. http://www.reuters.com en francais pour les francophones - Citation :
- Des A-400M pourraient être revendus
5 août 2013 – 15:15
Combien d’exemplaires de l’avion de transport tactique A-400M “Atlas” les forces aériennes espagnoles vont-elles pouvoir mettre en oeuvre? Pour le moment, Madrid a commandé 27 appareils. Seulement, d’après Reuters, le gouvernement espagnol compte revoir ce chiffre à la baisse étant que les besoins ont été finalement évalués à seulement 14 unités.
Aussi, l’idée qui circule est que l’Espagne pourrait revendre une partie des appareils devenus superflus à un autre pays. Et, selon des “sources proches du dossier”, cette option serait aussi envisagée chez d’autres clients de l’A400M dont l’Allemagne et… la France, qui vient de recevoir son premier exemplaire.
Initialement, Paris a commandé 50 A400M, ce qui couvre exactement les besoins définis par le dernier Livre blanc sur la défense et la sécurité nationale (LBDSN). D’après la Loi de programmation militaire (LPM), qui traduit ce document en termes budgétaires, 15 appareils seront livrés d’ici 2019.
“Je n’ai pas fait mes arbitrages pour savoir ce qu’il y aura après 2019″, a déclaré, le 2 août, Jean-Yves Le Drian, le ministre français de la Défense. “Le nombre d’A400M sur le total d’avions de transport dont nous aurons besoin n’est pas fixé”, a-t-il ajouté. Interrogé en juin dernier à ce sujet sur le plateau de BFM TV, le locataire de l’Hôtel de Brienne était resté vague, en laissant entendre, toutefois, qu’il n’y aurait pas de réduction d’appareils commandés.
Quant à l’Allemagne, la revente de 13 avions sur les 53 attendus par la Luftwaffe est déjà actée étant donné que le Parlement en avait fait une condition pour approuver la commande initiale.
Reste que ces arrangements vont inévitablement créer de nouvelles difficultés, notamment pour ce qui concerne la gestion des redevances sur les exportations, sur lesquelles ont été gagées des aides publiques destinées au constructeur quand il s’était agi de renégocier le contrat qui permit, en novembre 2010, de sauver le programme A400M.
Pour le moment, la Malaisie est le seul client à l’export de l’avion européen, avec 4 exemplaires commandés. Le patron d’Airbus Military, Domingo Urena, a récemment estimé que 400 appareils pouvaient être vendus à l’étranger dans sur 30 ans
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rafi General de Division
messages : 9496 Inscrit le : 23/09/2007 Localisation : le monde Nationalité : Médailles de mérite :
| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Mer 7 Aoû 2013 - 15:07 | |
| - http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/talks-continue-for-spanish-heron-uas-purchase-389165/ a écrit:
The Spanish air force is in initial negotiations with Israel Aerospace Industries about a possible purchase of Heron 1 unmanned air systems.
Israeli sources confirm that while the economic crisis in Spain has slowed the pace of negotiations, they are continuing.
In April 2013 an IAI-owned Heron was used to demonstrate its capability to integrate into civil airspace during a demonstration performed from San Javier air base in Murcia, Spain. The test was a key element of the Desire project, funded by the European Defence Agency and European Space Agency and carried out by an international consortium led by Indra.
During the 6h flight, command and control and communications between air traffic controllers from Spanish air navigation service provider AENA and a pilot on the ground were proven via satellite. Data collected from the maritime surveillance-configured aircraft was also transmitted in real-time to the ground control station.
Spain's defence ministry has since received more information about the Heron 1 and its payloads, and "talks continue", Israeli sources say. | |
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jf16 General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: Armée Espagnole/Fuerzas Armadas Españolas Lun 12 Aoû 2013 - 17:05 | |
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