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Le SSM travaille sur un mécanisme de crédit de gouvernement à gouvernement pour les exportations.
En gros, un FMS Turc
De la bouche du SSM Murad Bayar :
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The strengths of the Turkish defence industry have been a high-level of cost effectivity, high quality, on time delivery and a very effective after-sales support in all of those regions. We are also working on a new export credit mechanism for Government to Government (G2G) sales of defence products. We believe that Turkish defence products will be also advantageous in terms of finance after establishing this credit mechanism.
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Mer 15 Mai 2013 - 21:44
Les vidéos y en a chez Roketsan, s'ils pouvaient ouvrir un Youtube Channel, ça serait sympa
Ca me rappelle les films piratés avec cam et le mec qui tousse dans le cinéma
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 9:25
Qui sont ces Africains ? (Why not DZ ?)
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TAI Hurkus nears first flight and orders
The Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) Hurkus turboprop trainer is planned to make its first flight in late June, according to the company, which displayed a mock-up of an armed version at the International Defence Industry Fair in Istanbul.
Speaking at the show, TAI general manager Muharrem Dortkasli said: "In a few weeks, during the meeting of the SSM [undersecretary of defence industries], we are awaiting a first order." The Turkish air force needs an initial 15 aircraft to augment the Korea Aerospace Industries KT-1s that are replacing its Cessna T-37s, but will need more later, he says.
"The first A-model will be a civilian training model. We aim to get EASA certification in less than two years," Dortkasli says. A subsequent B variant is to meet air force pilot training requirements, while the Hurkus C will be optimised for close air support tasks. Both could be delivered within 48 months, he adds.
Strong interest has already been received in the Hurkus B and C from potential customers in the Middle East and Africa, Dortkasli says.
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 10:02
Lanceur de flare rotatif pour les plateformes navales
Présenté pour la 1re fois à l'IDEF'13, fait par Mikes (filiale d'Aselsan)
Les domaines dans lesquels Mikes travaille :
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Self Protection Electronic Warfare Systems Radar Warning Receiver (RWR) and Electronic Counter Measure (ECM) System Chaff/Flare Dispensing System (CMDS) Electronic Support Measures (ESM) System for Naval and Airborne Platforms ECM Systems for Naval and Airborne Platforms Electronic Attack (Support, Jamming) Systems Avionic System/Subsystem Solutions Software Solutions Test/Support Systems Digital Signal Processing Cards GSM / Wi-Fi Jammers RF Signal Generators
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 10:20
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Turkish firm to market Nimr military vehicles
Nimr Automotive, a part of Tawazun Group, has signed an agreement with a Turkish firm to market, and possibly produce armoured vehicles in Turkey. The Abu Dhabi-based firm, which is known for manufacturing military vehicles, has signed a cooperation agreement with FNSS Savunma Sistemleri, a leading manufacturer and supplier of armoured combat vehicles and weapon systems for the Turkish Armed Forces and Allied Armed Forces.
The agreement will allow the two companies to work together to set up a project, which will pave the way for FNSS to market, sell and possibly produce Nimr vehicles in Turkey for the Turkish market.
The agreement was signed last week on the sideline of the 11th International Defence Industry Fair (IDEF 2013) in Istanbul by Nimr Automotive general manager Mohamed Musabah Al Mazrouei and general manager and chief executive of FNSS Defence Systems Kadir Nail Kurt.
Saif Mohamed Al Hajeri, chief executive officer of Tawazun, Murad Bayar, Undersecretary of Defence Industries at the Turkish Defence Ministry, and a number of high ranking UAE and Turkish officials were also present on the occasion.
After the signing ceremony, Al Hajeri said his company will be working with FNSS on identifying new business opportunities and joint development and production programs in both the UAE and Turkey. He said the agreement will certainly help cement “our long-standing and fruitful cooperation with the leading defence manufacturing companies in Turkey.”
Mohamed Al Mazrouei described the agreement as “culmination of the long standing cooperation between the UAE and Turkey.”
“The agreement provides a solid basis for a long-term cooperation and exchange of expertise between Nimr and FNSS and allows them to complement each other’s capabilities and resources in the fields of military vehicles manufacturing,” he added.
Tawazun is a strategic investment firm focused on the long-term development of UAE’s industrial manufacturing and technology capabilities and knowledge-transfer with a specific focus on the defence sector.
Established in 2007 by Tawazun Economic Council, Tawazun’s mission is to develop profitable ventures through industrial partnerships and strategic investments that add to the country’s industrial manufacturing layer in the areas of defence, defence manufacturing and manufacturing technology.
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 10:31
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TAI Hurkus nears first flight and orders
The Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) Hurkus turboprop trainer is planned to make its first flight in late June, according to the company, which displayed a mock-up of an armed version at the International Defence Industry Fair in Istanbul.
Speaking at the show, TAI general manager Muharrem Dortkasli said: "In a few weeks, during the meeting of the SSM [undersecretary of defence industries], we are awaiting a first order." The Turkish air force needs an initial 15 aircraft to augment the Korea Aerospace Industries KT-1s that are replacing its Cessna T-37s, but will need more later, he says.
"The first A-model will be a civilian training model. We aim to get EASA certification in less than two years," Dortkasli says. A subsequent B variant is to meet air force pilot training requirements, while the Hurkus C will be optimised for close air support tasks. Both could be delivered within 48 months, he adds.
Strong interest has already been received in the Hurkus B and C from potential customers in the Middle East and Africa, Dortkasli says.
peut être la version training, car Alger n'a pas de turboprop. Pour le CAS il me semble qu'Alger compte sur le Yak130.
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 10:54
SPAAG Korkut (Aselsan + FNSS), de mémoire, les TSK en ont commandé 42.
Vous en connaissez beaucoup des SPAAG amphibie
Aselsan assure :
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 11:03
Au dessus, LGB.
En dessous, le classique HGK (JDAM).
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 11:36
Coopération tous azimuts, I like that
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Pakistan builds parts for Turkey drones
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan, which has for much of the past decade has sought to acquire unmanned aerial vehicles (UCAV), a platform used by the US in Pakistan despite numerous protests by the government, has started export of drone parts. On Monday, officials at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), Kamra handed over the first batch of parts created for the Turkish UAV (ANKA) to the Turkish Aerospace Industry (TAI) in a ceremony held during the International Defence Exhibition and Fair (IDEF) at Istanbul, Turkey. After the signing ceremony, President and CEO of TAI Muharrem Dortkasli expressed his satisfaction on the skill and knowledge possessed by PAC, Kamra for undertaking such assignments. Dortkasli expressed that many more collaborations would be undertaken in the future as well. Pakistan has been seeking access to drones and has experimented in indigenously constructing drones.
"TAI cible toujours la vente du T129 et du ANKA au Pakistan"
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Türkiye ile Pakistan arasında savunma sanayi konusunda iş birliği her geçen gün daha da gelişiyor. TAI, Pakistan Hava Kuvvetleri'ne ait F-16 uçaklarının modernizasyonunu yapmıştı. Halen TAI, Pakistan'a T-129 ATAK taarruz helikopteri ile ANKA insansız hava araçlarının satışını hedefliyor
http://kokpit.aero/Pakistan-ana-parcalari-aliyor
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 11:41
A mettre en relation avec la coopération Havelsan-LM sur l'AEGIS
Même si le SSM a validé la phase I du projet, je ne sais pas si je dois m'inquiéter pour le CAFRAD
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Turkey; TF-2000 Air defense Frigate Program update
Turkey's Ministry of Defence Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) is planning to kickstart its next-generation TF-2000 anti-air warfare frigate program in the coming months, with plans under way to launch the design phase of the project by the end of the year. The TF-2000 project aims to provide the Turkish Naval Forces with up to six frigates at an estimated cost of between $.6 billion and $3 billion, with entry into service planned from around the end of the decade. The locally built frigate design, expected to displace more than 6,000 tonnes, will have a strong anti-air warfare bias centred on a multifunction radar and a medium-range area air-defence missile system. The SSM was unable to progress the program to the next stage until the Turkish Naval Forces completed an assessment of which version of Raytheon's Standard Missile would be most suitable for the new frigate. This assessment has now been concluded, with the navy opting to continue with the SM-2. Due to the large scope of the program, a decision has been made to split it into three phases, beginning with a design phase, followed by construction of a prototype ship, and then finally serial production.
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 13:11
Les qualifications se déroulent le 16 et 17 mai dans la région de Gelibolu (Gallipoli)
Une démonstration sera faite le 17 au SSM et aux généraux de la région.
FNSS SAMUR :
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 13:18
Les Indonésiens coopèrent avec FNSS et pas avec Otokar en vue de produire un tank
Anyway, ça ferait de l'experience pour FNSS
En tout cas à l'IDEF, pas beaucoup de commande mais beaucoup d'accord de coopération, ça prouve que les Turcs sont pris au sérieux ...
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Turkey, RI pen tank, technology deal
Turkey and Indonesia have signed agreements to jointly develop medium tanks and communication devices to forge closer cooperation, as well as to facilitate the much needed transfer of technology (ToT) for Indonesian defense companies, defense officials said on Wednesday.
The Defense Industry Policy Committee (KKIP) assistant for cooperation, Silmy Karim, said the agreements were signed during the 2013 International Defense Industry Fair (IDEF) in Istanbul.
He said that the first agreement would see cooperation between FNSS Defence Systems and state arms maker PT Pindad to design and produce a medium tank while the second agreement was between Aselsan and state electronics maker PT LEN to make communications devices.
“The cooperation with Turkey is another forward step. We will also forge cooperation with other countries,” Karim said.
“We already cooperate with South Korea,” he added. This includes the suspended KFX/IFX jet fighter program and the plan to build a submarine in Indonesia using South Korean expertise.
Karim said Law No. 16/2012 on the defense industry paved the way for cooperation with foreign countries to help improve the capabilities of domestic defense companies.
Another cooperative measure is the local production of the Chinese anti-ship missile C-705, which is in its feasibility study and reverse engineering stages.
In conjunction with the IDEF, both countries also held a bilateral meeting on defense industrial cooperation, said Defense Ministry director general for defense potential Pos Hutabarat.
“We chose Turkey because it has considerably advanced defense industries,” he told in the briefing.
Pos said that three to four years were needed to develop tanks, three to five years for missiles and 10 to 15 years for jet fighters.
Also attending the briefing was the Defense Ministry’s industry technology director Air Commodore Darlis Pangaribuan, who said the FNSS-Pindad cooperation would consist of three phases in about three years.
“The first stage will see both companies submitting proposals on cooperation required to design and jointly produce the tank,” he said, adding that funding would come from both governments.
Karim said the tank cooperation was needed to master track a propulsion system for armored vehicles, while Pindad had mastered a wheeled propulsion system.
He added the tank scheme would be similar to the CN-295 medium transport aircraft that is jointly produced by Spanish-based Airbus Military and state aircraft maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia.
“In buying weapon systems, we require not only the end products but also the ToT process,” he said.
“With the Defense Industry Law, we will get the products, taxes, job creation and technology.”
Karim said that sourcing technologies from multiple countries would not create the so-called logistical nightmare but would instead help foster independence in making weapons.
Meanwhile, Pos said Indonesia had submitted a contract amendment to Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) to allow a submarine to be built from scratch in Indonesia, instead of merely assembling parts manufactured in South Korea.
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 20:09
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Les Indonésiens coopèrent avec FNSS et pas avec Otokar en vue de produire un tank
c´est le dilema pour les new entrants comme la Turquie,bcp de pays souhaitent plus cooperer qu´acheter,pour s´assurer une relative autosuffisance et esperer entrer eux aussi dans le cercle de new entrants
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 20:36
Ce que je remarque dans cette journée très riche pour le topic Industrie militaire Turque, c'est que FNSS a signé 2 accords de coopération avec des étrangers :
- Tawazun (EAU).
- PT Pindad (Indonésie).
L'un produit des APC 4x4, 6x6 (Nimr) et l'autre c'est pour le développement d'un char léger.
2 vecteurs où Otokar est avancé (Cobra, Arma, Altay), dernièrement, on a présenté l'IFV Tulpar (1er chenillé pour eux), ce qui démontre que Otokar veut s'imposer en Turquie contre FNSS croyant que le chenillé était pour lui.
Otokar passe à l'offensive avec des projets bcp plus innovants que FNSS qui appartenant à 49% à BAE Systems, utilisent leurs véhicules comme base. En gros, ils n'innovent pas des masses.
FNSS s'est un peu reposé sur ses laurriers alors qu'Otokar innove et apprend.
Gage de qualité et de bonne réputation, si le deal avec les Azeris devient officiel, ce sera le 3e contrat export pour le Arma alors qu'il n'est même pas dans l'inventaire des TSK.
Par ailleurs, Otokar a sorti le Cobra II ce qui ouvre la production locale pour les Azeris et Kazakhs (avec ToT).
@Yakuza
Le SSM encourage ce genre de démarches (accords de coopération) en vue de gagner de l'XP et consolider des marchés.
Faut pas se leurrer, les achats sur étagère sont de moins en moins nombreux, les pays veulent du ToT, assemblage/co-production.
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 21:21
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Qui sont ces Africains ? (Why not DZ ?)
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TAI Hurkus nears first flight and orders
The Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) Hurkus turboprop trainer is planned to make its first flight in late June, according to the company, which displayed a mock-up of an armed version at the International Defence Industry Fair in Istanbul.
Speaking at the show, TAI general manager Muharrem Dortkasli said: "In a few weeks, during the meeting of the SSM [undersecretary of defence industries], we are awaiting a first order." The Turkish air force needs an initial 15 aircraft to augment the Korea Aerospace Industries KT-1s that are replacing its Cessna T-37s, but will need more later, he says.
"The first A-model will be a civilian training model. We aim to get EASA certification in less than two years," Dortkasli says. A subsequent B variant is to meet air force pilot training requirements, while the Hurkus C will be optimised for close air support tasks. Both could be delivered within 48 months, he adds.
Strong interest has already been received in the Hurkus B and C from potential customers in the Middle East and Africa, Dortkasli says.
a mon avis si l´Algerie en voulait elle aurait pris le Super Tucano du Bresil,qui est avec Embraer plus proch d´eux que la Turquie avec ce nouveau né,y´a deja eu des visites la bas mais sans gros interet
en plus flighglobal ecrit tjs north africa quand il s´agit de pays de notre region
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 23:27
Sa peut être un armée africaine? Du genre, le Tchad ou le Sénégal?
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 23:35
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Turkey; TF-2000 Air defense Frigate Program update Thursday, 16 May 2013 News - Asia
Turkey's Ministry of Defence Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) is planning to kickstart its next-generation TF-2000 anti-air warfare frigate program in the coming months, with plans under way to launch the design phase of the project by the end of the year.
The TF-2000 project aims to provide the Turkish Naval Forces with up to six frigates at an estimated cost of between $.6 billion and $3 billion, with entry into service planned from around the end of the decade. The locally built frigate design, expected to displace more than 6,000 tonnes, will have a strong anti-air warfare bias centred on a multifunction radar and a medium-range area air-defence missile system.
The SSM was unable to progress the program to the next stage until the Turkish Naval Forces completed an assessment of which version of Raytheon's Standard Missile would be most suitable for the new frigate. This assessment has now been concluded, with the navy opting to continue with the SM-2.
Due to the large scope of the program, a decision has been made to split it into three phases, beginning with a design phase, followed by construction of a prototype ship, and then finally serial production.
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 23:39
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Sa peut être un armée africaine? Du genre, le Tchad ou le Sénégal?
Dans la mesure où le Hurkus-C doit arriver vers 2016-2017 (on parle de 48 mois), faut voir les pays qui vont devoir remplacer leur trainer.
Ca peut être Egypte, Libye. En Afrique noir, on est pas très présent et commencer par du basic trainer/CASeur ça semble chaud quand même.
Le temps nous le dira
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Turkey; TF-2000 Air defense Frigate Program update Thursday, 16 May 2013 News - Asia
Turkey's Ministry of Defence Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) is planning to kickstart its next-generation TF-2000 anti-air warfare frigate program in the coming months, with plans under way to launch the design phase of the project by the end of the year.
The TF-2000 project aims to provide the Turkish Naval Forces with up to six frigates at an estimated cost of between $.6 billion and $3 billion, with entry into service planned from around the end of the decade. The locally built frigate design, expected to displace more than 6,000 tonnes, will have a strong anti-air warfare bias centred on a multifunction radar and a medium-range area air-defence missile system.
The SSM was unable to progress the program to the next stage until the Turkish Naval Forces completed an assessment of which version of Raytheon's Standard Missile would be most suitable for the new frigate. This assessment has now been concluded, with the navy opting to continue with the SM-2.
Due to the large scope of the program, a decision has been made to split it into three phases, beginning with a design phase, followed by construction of a prototype ship, and then finally serial production.
Je l'avais posté ce matin Sur ce topic, c'est chaud de me devancer
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Jeu 16 Mai 2013 - 23:54
Salam ,
Dire , Ecrire , Afrique subsaharienne , aurait je pense été plus adéquat .
Afrique noir Afrique blanche , l'exemple de l'Afrique du Sud par exemple où on sait par exemple , qui gouverne qui ...
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Turkey; TF-2000 Air defense Frigate Program update Thursday, 16 May 2013 News - Asia
Turkey's Ministry of Defence Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) is planning to kickstart its next-generation TF-2000 anti-air warfare frigate program in the coming months, with plans under way to launch the design phase of the project by the end of the year.
The TF-2000 project aims to provide the Turkish Naval Forces with up to six frigates at an estimated cost of between $.6 billion and $3 billion, with entry into service planned from around the end of the decade. The locally built frigate design, expected to displace more than 6,000 tonnes, will have a strong anti-air warfare bias centred on a multifunction radar and a medium-range area air-defence missile system.
The SSM was unable to progress the program to the next stage until the Turkish Naval Forces completed an assessment of which version of Raytheon's Standard Missile would be most suitable for the new frigate. This assessment has now been concluded, with the navy opting to continue with the SM-2.
Due to the large scope of the program, a decision has been made to split it into three phases, beginning with a design phase, followed by construction of a prototype ship, and then finally serial production.
Je l'avais posté ce matin Sur ce topic, c'est chaud de me devancer
C'est vrai tu est très rapide, pourtant j'ai regardé les post en arrière et je n'ai rien vu, les yeux fatiguent, dur dur ce soir
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 17 Mai 2013 - 0:01
De toute façon, ce genre d'avion pour la COIN sera très adapté pour l'Afrique avec tous les extrémistes qui poussent comme des champignons.
Il faut se placer sur ce marché le plus tôt possible avec un prix attractif, Embraer est déjà sur place ...
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 17 Mai 2013 - 15:57
Accord pour la production de pièces pour l'ANKA sans doute ...
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Sujet: Re: Industrie militaire turque Ven 17 Mai 2013 - 16:07
Actuellement, les capacités de production annuelle pour le chantier Yonca-Onuk :
3 MRTP-34, 4 MRTP-24, 8 MRTP-20, 8-14 MRTP-16
Par ailleurs, le MRTP-44 (47 mètres) est pour bientôt
Spoiler:
Par ailleurs, ils investissent 60 millions de $ pour augmenter leurs infrastructures, ils ont construit plus de 120 MRTP jusqu'à maintenant.
Ils ont des accords de production locale en Malaisie, EAU, Egypte, ils visent l'Afrique clairement.
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Sahil güvenlik botlarının yanı sıra yüksek hızlı hücumbot üretimi yapan Yonca Onuk, Pakistan, Malezya, Gürcistan, Birleşik Arap Emirlikleri, Katar, Mısır ve Kıbrıs gibi pek çok ülkeye Kaan sınıfı hücumbotlar ihraç ediyor. 12 bin m2'lik kapalı alanda üretim yapan tersanenin 28'si mühendis olmak üzere toplam 200 çalışanı bulunuyor. Geçtiğimiz aylarda suya indirilerek Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı'na teslim edilen sahil güvenlik botu tersanesinin Tuzla'da inşa ettiği 100. gemi oldu. Yonca Onuk'un Malezya, Uzakdoğu'daki merkezlerinde inşa edilenlerle birlikte bugün 120 askeri gemisi dünya sularında seyir yapıyor. Uzmanlık alanını yüksek hızlı tekneler olarak belirleyen ve askeri gemi projelerinin dışına çıkmama kararı alan tersane, yılda 3 adet MRTP 34, 4 adet MRTP 24, 8 adet MRTP 20 ve 8-14 adet MRTP 16 üretim kapasitesine sahip. Tekne inşasında kompozit malzeme tercih eden Yonca Onuk'un tekneleri bu nedenle hem sağlam hem de hızlı.