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Insurgents in first shoot down Egyptian Apache helicopter

Special to WorldTribune.com

CAIRO — The Egyptian military has been rocked by the first insurgency interception of an attack aircraft in the Sinai Peninsula.

Military sources said insurgents linked to Al Qaida shot down a U.S.-origin AH-64 Apache attack helicopter.

The Apache was destroyed during a flight in northern Sinai on Jan. 25 and all five soldiers aboard were killed.

“The military aircraft fell yesterday,” Egyptian military spokesman Col. Ahmed Ali said on Jan. 27.

Ali, who acknowledged the casualties, did not provide details of the crash. But military sources said the Apache was downed by a surface-to-air missile fired by unidentified insurgents in Kharouba, located in the North Sinai province.

The Egyptian Air Force has a fleet of at least 35 Apaches, most of which underwent a major upgrade. The Air Force has ordered additional attack helicopters in a project suspended by the United States.

Al Qaida claimed responsibility for the attack. On Jan. 27, the Al Qaida-aligned Ansar Beit Al Maqdis said it fired a missile that destroyed the Apache near Sheik Zweid, located along the border with the Gaza Strip.

This marked the first downing of an Egyptian aircraft since the revolt
in Sinai began in 2011. In August 2013, the military launched a
counter-insurgency offensive that killed more than 200 Islamist fighters.

Ansar also claimed responsibility for a rocket-propelled grenade attack
on three checkpoints around Sheik Zweid. The military said four soldiers
were killed and 13 were injured in the RPG strike.

http://www.worldtribune.com

Ah c’était un Apache , moi je pensais a un Mi-17  

Mi17 pas Apache

Sur la vidéo on regarde bien que ce n’est pas un apache pourtant l’article dit que oui   

Peut-être que la vidéo n’est pas au Egypte

si si en sinai,c est la presse qui dit n´importe quoi

C'est flagrant que c'est un Mi-17 même , notamment lors de sa chute et que la caméra zoom , ont voit clairement la forme d'un Mi-17 et non pas d'un Apache .

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Insurgents in first shoot down Egyptian Apache helicopter

Special to WorldTribune.com

CAIRO — The Egyptian military has been rocked by the first insurgency interception of an attack aircraft in the Sinai Peninsula.

Military sources said insurgents linked to Al Qaida shot down a U.S.-origin AH-64 Apache attack helicopter.

The Apache was destroyed during a flight in northern Sinai on Jan. 25 and all five soldiers aboard were killed.

“The military aircraft fell yesterday,” Egyptian military spokesman Col. Ahmed Ali said on Jan. 27.

Ali, who acknowledged the casualties, did not provide details of the crash. But military sources said the Apache was downed by a surface-to-air missile fired by unidentified insurgents in Kharouba, located in the North Sinai province.

The Egyptian Air Force has a fleet of at least 35 Apaches, most of which underwent a major upgrade. The Air Force has ordered additional attack helicopters in a project suspended by the United States.

Al Qaida claimed responsibility for the attack. On Jan. 27, the Al Qaida-aligned Ansar Beit Al Maqdis said it fired a missile that destroyed the Apache near Sheik Zweid, located along the border with the Gaza Strip.

This marked the first downing of an Egyptian aircraft since the revolt
in Sinai began in 2011. In August 2013, the military launched a
counter-insurgency offensive that killed more than 200 Islamist fighters.

Ansar also claimed responsibility for a rocket-propelled grenade attack
on three checkpoints around Sheik Zweid. The military said four soldiers
were killed and 13 were injured in the RPG strike.

http://www.worldtribune.com[/quo

Apache with five soldiers aboard..hé hé .......  

Ca doit être terrible de savoir que l'on s'est fait toucher et que l'on va se crasher sans pouvoir rien faire... avec des systemes de contre mesures il aurait été possible de s'en sortir !

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Egypt militants may have used Chinese missile to shoot down helicopter


The Ansar Bait al-Maqdis (ABM), also known as Champions of Jerusalem, an Al-Qaeda-inspired Islamist militant group based in Egypt's Sinai peninsula, may have used a Chinese FN-6 surface-to-air missile to shoot down a military helicopter on Jan. 25, according to China's state-run Global Times.
The military helicopter was shot down near the town of Sheikh Zuweyid in northern Sinai, with the New York Times stating that five Egyptian soldiers were killed during the incident.
The BBC reported that the shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles used by the insurgents are Russian-built SA-7s, while a video clip released on the official website of ABM indicates that the fired missile looked more like a FN-6.
The BBC said that the Egyptian government currently relies heavily on the American-built AH-64 Apache helicopter and various Russian helicopters in its counter-insurgency operation against militant groups. The government may begin to deploy jet fighters against such organizations however as the Apache helicopter may no longer be useful against insurgents with Russian or Chinese surface-to-air missiles.
If jet fighters were to be used in anti-insurgency operations, the BBC said that collateral damage may increase. The New York Times, meanwhile, reported that the ABM has recently carried out a series of terrorist attacks against Egypt's police and military forces.
In a statement released after the incident, the militant group said that they shot down the helicopter in an area clear of residents to preserve the lives of Muslims and to carry out their Jihad against infidels.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?cid=1101&MainCatID=11&id=20140130000062

" 2 U209 supplémentaires
" Le coût du premier contrat est de 920M€
" Livraison du premier SM en 2016
" Un achat futurs pour 4 corvettes est programmé, DCNS propose vraisemblablement son Gowind Combat

La Tribune a écrit:

L'Allemagne serait proche d'une nouvelle vente de deux sous-marins à l'Egypte

L'Egypte devrait exercer prochainement une option pour l'acquisition de deux sous-marins U-209 supplémentaires fabriqués par le groupe naval allemand ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems.

Décidément l'Allemagne persiste et signe. En l'occurrence Berlin s'apprêterait à signer très prochainement avec l'Egypte un nouveau contrat portant sur la vente de deux sous-marins supplémentaires U-209 fabriqués par le groupe naval ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS), selon nos informations. Et ce en dépit des polémiques qui accompagnent certaines ventes à l'exportation en direction de pays pouvant mettre en danger la sécurité d'Israël.

Il s'agirait d'une option sur deux nouveaux bâtiments, qui serait exercé par Le Caire dans le cadre du contrat de gré à gré signé à l'été 2011 pour un montant de 920 millions d'euros. Puis un acompte avait été versé quelques mois plus tard en décembre. Le premier sous-marin armé de missiles mer-mer Harpoon Block II de Boeing, serait livré en 2016.

Vers une politique plus restrictive en matière d'exportations d'armes ?
Mais cette vente si elle se concrétise pourrait même être remise en question par les dernières déclarations du ministre allemand de l'Economie, Sigmar Gabriel, dans le magazine allemand Stern où il a notamment déclaré la semaine dernière que l'Allemagne allait renforcer le contrôle des exportations d'armes. "Je suis d'accord avec Helmut Schmidt : c'est une honte que l'Allemagne soit parmi les plus importants exportateurs d'armes du monde, a expliqué le patron du SPD. En particulier, les armes légères deviennent simplement les armes de la guerre civile. Alors les choses doivent changer. C'est pourquoi, je suis en faveur d'une politique restrictive en ce qui concerne les exportations d'armes".

"Si les armes sont livrées dans les mauvaises régions, cela peut s'avérer un commerce meurtrier", a estimé Sigmar Gabriel, tout en comprenant l'argument qui dit qu'un cadre plus strict pour les exportations d'armes pourrait coûter des emplois. "Pas d'armes dans les pays où une guerre civile est financée. Par ailleurs, nul ne devrait vendre d'armes à des régimes iniques", a rappelé le ministre de l'Economie. L'Egypte fait-il partie de cette catégorie ? Sigmar Gabriel, qui instruit les dossiers d'autorisation de ventes d'armes, a également appelé à plus de transparence dans l'autorisation des transferts d'armes, question en débat au Conseil fédéral de la sécurité allemande, dont il est membre. Des règles qui datent de la guerre froide. L'Allemagne livrera-t-elle in fine les sous-marins au Caire ? A suivre...

Visite du ministre égyptien de l'Industrie à Paris
Accompagné d'une délégation d'hommes d'affaires, le ministre égyptien du Commerce et de l'Industrie, Mounir Fakhri Abdel-Nour, entame ce lundi une visite de trois jours en France pour une campagne de charme en direction des groupes français. Il sera reçu à Bercy et au MEDEF notamment. Outre la France, la délégation égyptienne doit se rendre à Berlin, Londres, Washington et Moscou.

Si DCNS était hors-jeu d'une possible vente de sous-marins en Egypte (pas d'autorisation accordée), le groupe naval est toutefois actuellement en compétition pour placer quatre corvettes armées (missiles VL Mica, Sinbad et Exocet de MBDA) au Caire. Une compétition qui est très compliquée face à l'allemand TKMS, appuyé par l'homme d'affaires Iskandar Safa, via la holding Privinvest, et le néerlandais Damen.

Voilà comment s'exclure d'un contrat (corvettes) où on aurait pu avoir notre chance, au moins participer au bid (Milgem classe Ada).

 

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SAM used to down helicopter over Sinai


The use by insurgents of a man-portable surface-to-air missile (SAM) to shoot down an Egyptian Mil Mi-17 'Hip' military helicopter near the town of Sheikh Zuweyid in northern Sinai on 25 January represents a serious escalation of the conflict. Egypt has relied on helicopters for much of its military operations against insurgents in Sinai.
A video clip of the missile launch that appeared on the website of the Ansar Bait al-Maqdis (Champions of Jerusalem), an Al-Qaeda-inspired insurgent group based in Sinai, showed that the organisation is taking steps to conceal the source of its most sophisticated weaponry. The area of the image that included the operator's upper torso and the much of the SAM launcher had been heavily blurred.

http://www.janes.com/article/33832/sam-used-to-down-helicopter-over-sinai

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Egypt in $3Bn Arms Deal with Russia as Putin Backs Al-Sisi for President


Egypt and Russia are said to have agreed on a $3b arms deal, in a direct snub to the US, even as President Vladimir Putin endorsed Egyptian army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's presidential bid during the latter's visit to Moscow.

The move is bound to irk Washington which is the primary arms supplier of the Egyptian military as the likely new regime in Egypt leans towards Moscow.

According to the deal either initiated or signed by Egypt and Russia, contracts for the delivery of MiG-29 M/M2, Fulcrum fighter aircraft, Mi-35 helicopters, air defence complexes and light weapons have been sealed, reports Russia's Vedomosti daily, citing two independent sources from Moscow's defence industry.

Biggest Deal since Soviet Era

If confirmed, this will be the biggest military purchase by Egypt from Russia since the Soviet era, following which Cairo moved towards improving its ties with Washington in the 1970s under Anwar Sadat.

There has, however, been no official announcement on the deal.

This is Al-sisi's first visit outside Egypt since the military-backed overthrow of former Islamist president Mohamed Morsi. Shortly after Morsi was expelled, the US had frozen a significant portion of the $1.5m military aid to Egypt.

Earlier, there was speculation that Egypt was keen on an arms deal worth billions of dollars with Russia which was originally initiated by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu. Al-sisi held talks with both the senior ministers during his visit.

Local reports suggest the latest deal between the two countries is being backed by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

"I know that you have made a decision to run for the post of president of Egypt. It is a very responsible decision to assume this mission and responsibility for the fate of the Egyptian people," said Putin.

"We are paying very close attention to the development of the internal political situation in your country, and wish the leadership of Egypt success on the path to nationwide peace and harmony."

Putin said the stability of the entire Middle East depends on stability in Egypt.

Al-sisi, who is also Egypt's defence minister, said his visit marks a "new departure" in the ties with Russia.

"We of course are also interested in various forms of cooperation with you in the interests of providing a good life for our people in all spheres. We are always supporters of stability and peace throughout the world," said the Egyptian army chief, who was accompanied by the country's foreign minister, Nabil Fahmy.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk

+ systemes defense cotiere aussi...les US sont furieux

ca m´interesserait bien de savoir quelle DCA? Tor ou S-300

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L’Egypte lorgne sur le MiG-29




Le Caire, le gouvernement intérimaire de l'Egypte, installé par l'armée en juillet 2013 est au plus mal avec ses relations avec les USA, par contre le beau fixe règne avec la Russie.
L’aviation Egyptienne cherche à compléter son parc aérien avec de nouveaux avions de combat.
 
Suspension des livraisons :
 
Washington à suspendu la livraison du dernier lot de Lockheed-Martin F-16 C/D destiné à l’Egypte, soit 20 appareils entièrement neufs. L'Egypte a reçu un total de 224 F-16 en plusieurs lots. Le F-16 constitue aujourd’hui l'épine dorsale de la force aérienne égyptienne. 
 
Moscou se profile : 
 
La fraîcheur des relations entre Le Caire et Washington profite donc à Moscou qui offre désormais à l’Egypte une panoplie complète d’équipement militaire. 
Au dernières nouvelles, l’Egypte est entrée en négociation pour l’achat de 24 MiG-29M.
 
Les MiG-29M qui intéressent l’Egypte sont dotés d’une avionique et des équipements modernes dont le radar Zhuk-ME capable de détecter un chasseur à 130-200 km, de traquer 30 cibles et d’en engager 8 simultanément. L’avion intègre de nouvelles armes jusqu’à 5 tonnes, une perche de ravitaillement en vol. L’avion est doté de commandes de vol électrique. 



Photos : MiG-29M2 & cockpit

http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/archive/2014/02/19/l-egypte-lorgne-sur-le-mig-29-855232.html

le mig 29   

un de avion qui aime le plus le sol   

Faux ! Proportionnellement parlant le F-16 l'aime beaucoup plus Normal puisque c'est un bi-reac

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Report: Egypt Spies Alerted Israel to German Dolphin Submarine Buy, Russian Contract to Upgrade Tanks

Leaked confessions from a pair of Egyptians accused of spying for Israel on Thursday allegedly revealed that the most serious intelligence delivered was a report in 2010 that Egypt was buying four German Dolphin submarines and signing a contract with Russia to upgrade 35 tanks, according to Egypt’s Al-Masry Al-Youm.

According to the newspaper, which claimed to have access to signed confessions, the intelligence reports submitted to Israel also described military exercises by the Egyptian army, the military council at the time of the revolution, and the popularity of religious movements. The reports were sent via an encrypted laptop that the Israeli intelligence had provided and the accused agents were paid €500 ($685) per report.

The two alleged spies, Ramzi Ahmed al-Shebini and Sahar Salama, on Monday were referred to a criminal court, along with unnamed Israeli Mossad agents, who would be tried in absentia.

In the confession, al-Shebini said he repeatedly approached Israeli embassy officials in Rome to offer his services as a spy, but was rebuffed. When the Israelis finally relented, al-Shebini said he was trained by collecting information about certain churches, universities and hotels in Italy.

He recruited Salama who works for a newspaper of the armed forces. After six months, Israel accepted her as part of this espionage team and provided the pair with a bag to hide secret reports. Salama’s first reports were about Army celebrations at the military academy’s graduations and on the anniversary of the Yom Kippur War in 2009. She was then assigned to monitor army clubs and hotels, certain military industrial and agricultural projects, and military recruitment procedures.

In total, nine suspects, three Egyptians and six Israeli Mossad officers, were fingered in the spy ring, according to Al-Masry Al-Youm earlier in February. Charges include transferring information about armed forces deployment, headquarters, security ambushes, infiltrators, jihadists and the Rafah border crossing in Sinai that could harm national interests, the report said.

http://www.algemeiner.com

kabylius a écrit:

Faux ! Proportionnellement parlant le F-16 l'aime beaucoup plus :)Normal puisque c'est un bi-reac

Non si le F16 aime plus le sol, c'est parceque le parc monde est autrement plus important....loi statistique...

Mais en matiere de fiabilité.....entre un reacteur americain et un Russe.....Y A PAS PHOTO......

kabylius a écrit:

Faux ! Proportionnellement parlant le F-16 l'aime beaucoup plus :)Normal puisque c'est un bi-reac

demande au Malai ce qu'il en pense de leur MIG-29N qu'ils ont acheté des les années 90 qu'ils veulent déjà remplacé   


J'ai entendu dire que c'est un avions difficile à maintenir en état de vol est-ce vrai ?

atlas a écrit:

kabylius a écrit:

Faux ! Proportionnellement parlant le F-16 l'aime beaucoup plus :)Normal puisque c'est un bi-reac

Non si le F16 aime plus le sol, c'est parceque la parc monde est autrement plus important....loi statistique...

Mais en matiere de fiabilité.....entre un reacteur americain et un Russe.....Y A PAS PHOTO......

heureusement que je dis proportionnellement et tu peux vérifier. L'entretient d'un 29 coute moins chere et il n'y a pas de probleme de disponibilité pour cette avion.

kabylius a écrit:

atlas a écrit:

kabylius a écrit:

Faux ! Proportionnellement parlant le F-16 l'aime beaucoup plus :)Normal puisque c'est un bi-reac

Non si le F16 aime plus le sol, c'est parceque la parc monde est autrement plus important....loi statistique...

Mais en matiere de fiabilité.....entre un reacteur americain et un Russe.....Y A PAS PHOTO......

heureusement que je dis proportionnellement et tu peux vérifier. L'entretient d'un 29 coute moins chere et il n'y a pas de probleme de disponibilité pour cette avion.

ben non, justement, si tu ramenes ça au ratio parc, tu verra que prioportionnellement............c'est bien le 29..........et pas de problemes de dispos...des machines ????:

JE SAIS PAS , j'ai pas le tx de dispo ou d'attrition des moteurs, mais visiblement, tu es un expert.........

j'aime bien voire des contrat pareil poure le maroc  

224 f-16 et pas d AIM120!!!!!!!!! vaut mieux 60 MiG29 de plus avec des air to air russe