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| Sujet: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces  Mer 16 Mai 2007 - 8:51 | |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mar 29 Juin 2010 - 11:48 | |
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- Thales awarded Royal Navy of Oman orders to equip patrol boats and corvettes
Thales announced today that it has signed an agreement with the Royal Navy of Oman (RNO) to equip patrol boats and corvettes with Vigile ESM (Electronic Support Measures) systems that include Vigile 200 and Vigile 400 systems.
The Vigile family of ESM solutions has been developed to monitor, measure and analyse electromagnetic signals, providing the crew with early warning, situation awareness and electromagnetic signals intelligence functions in both open ocean and dense littoral environments.
With Thales systems, the Royal Navy of Oman will benefit from the most advanced ESM solutions available today, fully tailored to its specific operational requirements.
The Vigile 200 system offers excellent surveillance coverage. The Vigile 400 is the highest performance system.
The Vigile range from Thales equips surface combatants and submarines in service with more than 25 countries to date. The range also includes land and airborne versions. All Vigile products are based on a modular architecture comprising an antenna system, signal reception and processing units and an operator display console.
This latest international success is a further endorsement of Thales's ability to design, develop, manufacture and integrate naval electronic warfare solutions.
BACKGROUND NOTES: The Vigile range is designed to respond to the ever-increasing complexity and density of electronic emitters in the modern operational maritime environment.
As a primary sensor, Vigile is the key component of the EW suite. It is fully integrated into the Combat System and plays a vital part in the platforms situation awareness, self-protection and ELINT capabilities. defenseworld | |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mer 30 Juin 2010 - 12:44 | |
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The Royal Air Force of Oman takes delivery of its first NH90
June 29, 2010 by Rob Vogelaar · Leave a Comment
NHIndustries is pleased to announce the delivery on time of the first batch of two NH90.multipurpose helicopters ordered by the Royal Air Force of Oman (RAFO).
The Certificate of Transfer of both helicopters occurred on June 23 on the Royal Air Force of Oman base of MUSANA after a very demanding 2 months evaluation period in severe operational conditions.
This initial delivery which marks the first delivery of an NH90 in the middle east will be followed ahead of schedule, in July, by the acceptance process of the second batch of NH90.
These helicopters are supported by an integrated NHI/ RAFO maintenance team who will operate for the 1st time in the NH90 world a specific maintenance tool: GLIMS (Ground Logistic Information Management System).
The RAFO have up to now ordered 20 NH90 TTH in order to replace its fleet of ageing AB205A/206/212/214.
The NH90 TTH chosen by Oman is to date one of the most advanced and versatile version of the NH90. This NH90 fleet will cover a wide spectrum of missions from the VIP transport, to troop transport and Search and Rescue missions round the clock in the most demanding conditions.
This new generation helicopter combines a full composite airframe, an outstanding fly by wire control system, with two powerful engines and an integrated mission system in order to offer its customers the best level of performance of its class.
In addition, NHIndustries and its partner companies ensure the training of the crews and the support of the Omani fleet in order to guarantee the highest level of availability.
The introduction of such an advanced transport helicopter in the middle east attracts the attention of several countries in the region.
The NH90 is the most successful European helicopter programme ever. A total of 529 firm orders have been placed by 19 armed forces in 14 countries including France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, The Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Greece, Spain and Belgium in Europe, as well as Australia, Oman and New Zealand overseas and 49 NH90 helicopters are already in service today.
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Jeu 1 Juil 2010 - 0:03 | |
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- Thoma-Sea Ship Builders, LLC, Lockport, La., was awarded a $7,286,175 firm-fixed-price contract on June 29 for the construction and delivery of a hydrographic survey vessel and associated equipment and services for the Royal Navy of Oman under the Foreign Military Sales program. Work will be performed in Lockport, La., and is expected to be completed by June 2011. This contract was competitively procured via the Federal Business Opportunities Web site, with seven offers received. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Sea Systems Command, Washington Navy Yard, D.C., is the contracting activity.
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Ven 2 Juil 2010 - 18:07 | |
| support pour les C-130J omanais - Citation :
- Oman – Logistics support and training for two C-130J-30s
WASHINGTON, July 2, 2010 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress June 30 of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Oman of logistics support and training for two C-130J-30 aircraft, including associated equipment and parts for an estimated cost of $54 million.
The Government of Oman has requested a possible sale of logistics support and training for two (2) C-130J-30 aircraft being procured through a Direct Commercial Sale, 2 AN/AAR-47 Missile Approach Warning Systems, 2 AN/ALE-47 Countermeasure Dispenser Sets, 2 AN/ALR-56M Radar Warning Receivers, communication equipment, software support, repair and return, installation, aircraft ferry and refueling support, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services, and related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated cost is $54 million.
This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been, and continues to be, an important force for political stability and economic progress in the Middle East.
The proposed sale will provide Oman the capability to meet current and future regional threats. These aircraft will improve Oman’s airlift capacity to transport equipment and troops in the region, and will support U.S interests. The Royal Air Force of Oman currently operates 3 C-130H aircraft and will have no difficulty absorbing these aircraft into its armed forces. http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2010/MU_10-05.pdf _________________ | |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Lun 26 Juil 2010 - 12:33 | |
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- Oman Vessel Named in Launching Ceremony at Portsmouth Naval Base
July 26, 2010 Portsmouth UK | The Royal Navy of Oman's (RNO) second Corvette, Al-Rahmani, was commissioned this morning at Portsmouth Naval Base. It is the second corvette out of three designed and built by BAE Systems for the RNO.
The Commissioning Ceremony was held under the auspices of His Excellency Sayyed Badir bin Saud bin Harib Al-Busaidi the Minister Responsible Defence Affairs in the Sultanate of Oman. The Ceremony was attended by Lord Astor, the Under Secretary of State for Defence in the UK and Rear Admiral Abdullah bin Khamis bin Abdullah Al-Raisi, Commander of the Royal Navy of Oman (CRNO) in addition to a number of VIPs and representatives of the RNO and the UK Royal Navy.
This event reflects the strategic importance given to these state-of-the-art corvettes by the Sultanate of Oman and UK at the time in which BAE Systems is seeking to boost its exports worldwide.
The commissioning of Al-Rahmani comes under the contract (Khareef) signed by the two sides in 2007 in light of which BAE Systems has to design and build three 99 metre corvettes.
The ships have the capacity to serve for prolonged periods overseas and are designed to reinforce the RNO capabilities and support the Naval Force in the protection of the international waters and the surveillance of EEZ.
Alan Johnston, Managing Director of BAE Systems' Surface Ships division, said: "We have been building ships for the RNO for over 30 years and are proud of the close working relationship we have developed, which is helping us to deliver the extremely sophisticated naval capability to the Royal Navy of Oman that you see here today.
"Today's event reflects the significant progress on this programme and reinforces our position as a leader in the global market to design, build and support warships for navies around the world."
On this occasion, Rear Admiral Abdullah bin Khamis bin Abdullah Al-Raisi said:
'By the almighty blessing, RNO celebrated this morning the commissioning of the ship (Al-Rahmani), the second ship of the Khareef Project to enter the service and it is a great fortune that this event coincides with the Sultanates Celebrations of the Blessed Renaissance Day anniversary led by His Majesty Sultan Qaboos the Supreme Commander of SAF and no doubt this inauguration is a further milestone to be added to the RNO achievement record and one of the landmarks of this prosperous era. In fact this project comes as an outcome of the continuous military cooperation between RNO and Royal Navy and enhances the excellent ties between RNO and BAE Systems, assigned with Project Khareef.'
The first ship (Al-Shamikh) was commissioned in July 2009 and will set sail for its first sea trials later this year.
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mar 3 Aoû 2010 - 23:19 | |
| 18 NEW+UPGRADE DES 12 ANCIENS(BIZARRE,RELATIVEMENT NEW BLOCK50 AUSSI) - Citation :
- Oman – F-16 Aircraft
WASHINGTON, August 3, 2010 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress today of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Oman of 18 F-16 Block 50/52 aircraft and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $3.5 Billion.
The Government of Oman has requested a possible sale of 18 F-16 Block 50/52 aircraft, 20 F100-PW-229 or F110-GE-129 Increased Performance Engines, 36 LAU- 129/A Common Rail Launchers, 24 APG-68(V)9 radar sets, 20 M61 20mm Vulcan Cannons, 22 AN/ARC-238 Single Channel Ground and Airborne Radio Systems with HAVE QUICK I/II, 40 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems, 36 LAU-117 MAVERICK Launchers, 22 ALQ-211 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites (AIDEWS) or Advanced Countermeasures Electronic Systems (ACES) (ACES includes the ALQ-187 Electronic Warfare System and AN/ALR-93 Radar Warning Receiver), Advanced Identification Friend or Foe (AIFF) Systems with Mode IV, 34 Global Positioning Systems (GPS) and Embedded-GPS/Inertial Navigation Systems (INS), 18 AN/AAQ-33 SNIPER Targeting Pods or similarly capable system, 4 DB-110 Reconnaissance Pods (RECCE), 22 AN/ALE-47 Countermeasures Dispensing Systems (CMDS), and 35 ALE-50 Towed Decoys. Also included is the upgrade of the existing 12 F-16 Block 50/52 aircraft, site survey, support equipment, tanker support, ferry services, Cartridge Actuated Devices/Propellant Actuated Devices (CAD/PAD), conformal fuel tanks, construction, modification kits, repair and return, modification kits, spares and repair parts, construction, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor technical, engineering, and logistics support services, ground based flight simulator, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $3.5 billion.
This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been, and continues to be, an important force for political stability and economic progress in the Middle East.
The proposed sale will provide a significant increase in the Royal Air Force of Oman’s (RAFO) capability to train with U.S. and coalition forces and augment coalition forces in a regional conflict. The F-16 Block 50/52 will enable Oman to support both its own air defense needs and coalition operations. Oman currently has 12 F-16s in its inventory and will have no difficulty absorbing these additional aircraft into its armed forces.
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mar 3 Aoû 2010 - 23:26 | |
| Malgré les plus de leur contrat, le prix est ahurissant surtout quand on sait qu'ils ont deja des f-16. Tres egyptien comme deal... | |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mar 3 Aoû 2010 - 23:39 | |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mar 3 Aoû 2010 - 23:42 | |
| Tout a fait d'accord Yak.
3.5 Milliards usd!!!!, c'est quasiment la moitié de la somme versee par les canadiens pour 60 F 35!! | |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mer 4 Aoû 2010 - 10:07 | |
| comme quoi,les US ne torpillent pas seulement le Rafale,puisque un deal EF etait imminent - Citation :
- DATE:04/08/10
SOURCE:Flight International
In fresh blow to Eurofighter, US touts possible F-16 sale to Oman
By Stephen Trimble
US defence officials have confirmed that Oman has asked for a potential sale of 18 Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 50/52s fighters for $3.5 billion in a move that dampens the UK government's hopes to offload a batch of new Eurofighter Typhoons.
The US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) informed Congress on 3 August that the Royal Air Force of Oman is seeking a "possible" F-16 purchase, which is most likely aimed at replacing 16 Sepecat Jaguars.
The announcement comes five years after Oman purchased a batch of 12 F-16 Block 50s, which are powered by the General Electric F110-GE-129 engine.
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The DSCA says the potential second batch of F-16s could be Block 50s or Block 52s. The latter is powered by the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 engine. The deal also would include the ITT advanced integrated defence electronic warfare suites (AIDEWS) and Northrop Grumman APG-68(V)9 radar.
If the contract is signed, Oman would give Lockheed a fresh boost in the region as the manufacturer seeks to close more F-16 deals with Qatar and Iraq.
But a contract signing for F-16s would mark a surprise reversal for the UK government, which indicated only four months ago that a Typhoon sale in Muscat could be imminent.
UK officials hope to offload Typhoons that the government is committed to buying in Tranche 3 of the Eurofighter programme.
Meanwhile, the F-16 programme remains in demand despite the arrival in six years of its successor the F-35A. On 20 July, Lockheed officials noted the F-16 has a firm backlog of 86 F-16s, including 20 fighters recently ordered as part of Egypt's sixth follow-on order.
The production line in Fort Worth, Texas, is expected to continue through 2013, with new deals possibly extending the programme for several years beyond, Lockheed says.
As a member of the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council, Oman has joined a regional arms race as tensions with Iran escalate across the Strait of Hormuz.  _________________ | |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mar 17 Aoû 2010 - 13:28 | |
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- Sultanate of Oman Acquires Two Additional C-130J Super Hercules
MARIETTA, Ga. | Lockheed Martin (NYSE: LMT) has signed a contract with the Sultanate of Oman for two additional C-130J Super Hercules.
Oman ordered its first C-130J in July 2009, for delivery in 2012. The two additional aircraft will be delivered in late 2013 and early 2014. The first aircraft is of the C130J-30 "long" configuration and the new order is for two C-130J "short" configuration aircraft.
"The C-130J is ideally suited to the operating conditions found in Oman and other areas of the Gulf," said Jim Grant, Lockheed Martin vice president for Air Mobility and Special Operations Forces Programs. "In selecting the C-130J Super Hercules, Oman has recognized all the proven qualities of the world's most advanced airlifter."
Oman currently operates a fleet of three C-130Hs purchased in the early 1980s. The new C-130J fleet will support Omani operations with its outstanding capability to operate out of remote, austere airstrips.
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 0:52 | |
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- 18 Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 50/52s fighters for $3.5 billion
 . Sa vaut le prix d'un rafale un F-16 maintenant  Il y a l'upgrade des 12 f16 qu'ils ont déjà au format block 50. Ceci dis ça sens la carotte leur histoire! _________________  Ces gifs animés proviennent du mangas "Les chevaliers du zodiaques: the lost canvas". | |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 1:33 | |
| Avec les Americains c'est surement des subventions cachées pour Lockheed, GE, Raytheon et consors mais c'est vrai que presque 200 millions l'unité ça fait cher le coucou mais avec tout le support, formation etc ...
A moins qu'ils aient pris un tas de munitions sophistiquées (Paveway, Amraam) ! |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Jeu 26 Aoû 2010 - 20:02 | |
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- Oman navy selects Thales for self-defence capabilities
2010-08-26 20:10:00
-sur-Seine, Aug 26 (IANS) European electronics major Thales has been selected by the Royal Navy of Oman (RNO) to equip its patrol boats and corvettes with Vigile ESM (electronic support measures) systems, the company said.
The Vigile 200 and Vigile 400 family of ESM solutions 'has been developed to monitor, measure and analyse electromagnetic signals, providing the crew with early warning, situation awareness and electromagnetic signals intelligence functions in both open ocean and dense littoral environments,' a Thales statement said.
With the Thales systems, the RNO 'will benefit from the most advanced ESM solutions available today, fully tailored to its specific operational requirements', the statement added.
The Vigile 200 system 'offers excellent surveillance coverage', while the Vigile 400 'is the highest performance system', the statement said.
The Vigile range equips surface combatants and submarines in service with more than 25 countries to date. The range also includes land and airborne versions.
'All Vigile products are based on a modular architecture comprising an antenna system, signal reception and processing units and an operator display console.
'This latest international success is a further endorsement of Thales's ability to design, develop, manufacture and integrate naval electronic warfare solutions,' the statement said.
Thales is a global technology leader for the aerospace and space, defence, security and transportation markets. In 2009, the company generated revenues of 12.9 billion euros with 68,000 employees in 50 countries.
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| le voilier Shabab Oman S1, batiment école de la marine royale omanaise, était en escale le 5 septembre à Vigo : Il est magnifique .. Sublime    ( FdB ) _________________  | |
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Lun 3 Jan 2011 - 1:57 | |
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- BAE Systems : Première sortie à la mer de la nouvelle corvette omanaise
La corvette omanaise Al Shamikh
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Tête de série du programme Khareef, portant sur trois corvettes lance-missiles pour le sultanat d'Oman, l'Al Shamikh a réalisé fin décembre ses premiers essais en mer. Cette navigation s'est déroulée au large de Portsmouth, où le bâtiment a été réalisé par BAE Systems. Longue de 99 mètres, la corvette, dont la livraison est prévue cette année, disposera de missiles antinavire Exocet MM40 Block3 et de missiles surface-air VL Mica, fournis par MBDA. L'armement compte aussi une tourelle de 76mm OTO-Melara et de l'artillerie légère, le bâtiment pouvant en outre embarquer un hélicoptère.
Thales équipe également les navires de la classe Khareef avec un radar de surveillance SMART-S Mk2, un système de contrôle des armes électro-optique STING, un détecteur de radar Vigile 400, un système de communication intégré et un système de combat TACTICOS. La seconde unité de ce type, nommée Al Rahmani, a été mise à flot le 23 juillet. Le lancement du troisième navire, l'Al Rasikh, est prévu en mars.
 La corvette Al Shamikh (© : BAE SYSTEMS)
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| | Sujet: Re: Armée Omanaise / Sultan of Oman's Armed Forces Mer 23 Fév 2011 - 16:26 | |
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Oman’s first Khareef put through its paces
Al-Shamikh, the first of three new 99m ocean patrol vessels being built by BAE Systems Surface Ships for the Royal Navy of Oman (RNO) under Project Khareef, has completed its platform and machinery trials during just over three weeks of testing off the south coast of England.
Ordered from what was then VT Shipbuilding in January 2007, the three 2,600-tonne displacement Khareef ships will be the largest and most complex surface combatants ever to serve with the RNO.
Thales Nederland is principal subcontractor for the combat system scope of supply, while MBDA is equipping the Khareef ships with its VL MICA local area air defence system and MM40 Block 3 Exocet anti-ship missile.
Running from 21 January to 16 February, the platform trials programme, overseen by representatives from the RNO, demonstrated the performance of Al-Shamikh’s power, propulsion and navigation systems across a range of evolutions. According to BAE Systems, the ship achieved its 25kt contract speed, and demonstrated excellent seakeeping characteristics.
A follow-on programme of combat systems trials is due to start in the second quarter of 2011, leading to a handover to the RNO sometime in the middle of this year.
Al-Shamikh will subsequently undergo a period of training with the UK’s Flag Officer Sea Training organisation before transiting to Oman. First-of-class missile firings are expected to be conducted off France en route.
The second Khareef vessel, Al-Rahmani, was launched from BAE Systems Surface Ships’ Portsmouth yard in July 2010. The third and final ship of the class is due to be launched in mid-2011. janes.com | |
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