F-16 around the world

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F-16 SFW:

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In 1976, DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) awarded funds to General Dynamics, Rockwell and Grumman under the Forward-Swept Wing Program. Forward-swept wings offer low drag and improved low-speed handling characteristics, but they are extremely difficult to manufacture using conventional techniques. The use of advanced composite materials makes the wing rigid enough to withstand the forces introduced by aerodynamic stress, while simultaneously avoiding a weight penalty.

The engineers at General Dynamics studied several designs, including one with canards and an aft-mounted wing. The final design submitted to DARPA used the landing gear and most fuselage components of the traditional F-16, yet it had a slightly lengthened and strengthened fuselage to allow the forward-swept wing to be attached, since the new wing was slightly larger than the traditional wing.

The SFW/F-16 was rejected by DARPA in January of 1981 in favor of the Grumman 712 (an F-5/F-20 derivative), later designated the X-29A. The decision was mainly a political one, as many thought that the test-scene at NASA was heavily dominated by General Dynamics' F-16s (AFTI, CCV, F-16XL). Another much-cited reason was that "One could only learn so much from a single airframe", though in retrospect, ongoing experiments with the F-16 seem to prove this wrong. It is interesting to note that the chosen design, the X-29A, consists for about 16% of F-16 components, including the Fly-By-Wire Flight Control System.

After the F-5 airframe was chosen for this project, all development into this version halted.

F-16X: (ne pas confendre avec F-16XL).

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Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircaft Systems has proposed an improved version of the F-16, the F-16X, as the USAF's next multirole fighter. It would have a new wing based on that of the F-22 and no vertical tail. It would have twice the range of the F/A-18E/F at two thirds of the cost.

Interim improvements leading up to the F-16X could be introduced on F-16C/D block 50 Plus aircraft, incorporating color cockpit displays, a terrain-referenced navigation system, synthetic aperture radar, and a passive missile warning system. Later block 60 aircraft would have an internal LANTIRN system, APU and increased internal fuel in the dorsal spine.

The production of the F-16X would begin about 2010 if the program ever gets the go-ahead.

LMTAS has recently studied to turn NASA's F-16XL research aircraft into a tailless demonstrator, but there are no plans to conduct the modification due to lack of funding.

The study examined removing the vertical tail and providing directional control with a thrustvectoring engine and a new wing featuring all-moving wingtips and high-rate leading edge flaps. The new wing would have had more sweep and delta planform instead of the F-16XL cranked-arrow planform. As a lower-cost alternative the LMTAS engineers also studied keeping the F-16XL wing and modifying the ailerons.

The $250,000 six-months study started in the fall of 1995 as NASA was searching for experimental "X-plane" contenders in several categories, including high-performance fighters. The benefits would be a weight and drag reduction, and a lower, stealthier, radar cross-section, with agility that matched the standard Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter without angle of attack limits.

The F-16 would have been powered by the thrust-vectoring version of the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 engine that is now being used in NASA's F-15 Active program. It has a modification of the conventional circular nozzle to achieve vectoring.

The F-16XL design's ailerons were modified by extending the tips 1-2 ft., and adding an outboard area forward of the hingeline.

Since LMTAS has been awarded the contract to develop the F-35 as the next multirole fighter of the USAF and a lot of it's allies, futher development of this version isn't expected anymore.

www.f-16.net

Raptor a écrit:

une photo interessante qui montre l'ancien design du F-16U (block 60) avant le retour au design traditionnel, remarquez la forme des ailes:

les ailes ont la meme formes des ailles du F22

tomcat a écrit:

Raptor a écrit:

une photo interessante qui montre l'ancien design du F-16U (block 60) avant le retour au design traditionnel, remarquez la forme des ailes:

les ailes ont la meme formes des ailles du F22

interessant quand de même je sais pas si les ingenieurs ont songé a y ajouter les plans canards, je sais pas ce que ca donneras

les but derière la forme des ailes était d'augmenter la capacité d'emport du F-16U et de le doter d'une structure plus solide, mais j'imagine que ça a affecté la maniabilité exceptionnelle de falcon c'est la raison pour laquelle on a abandonné cette configuration et on a opté finalement pour la configuration traditionnelle du falcon.
c'est vrai qu'avec des plans canard il aura retrouvé sa manoeuvrabilité exceptionnelle, mais personnellement je préfère le design traditionnel.

Raptor a écrit:

les but derière la forme des ailes était d'augmenter la capacité d'emport du F-16U et de le doter d'une structure plus solide, mais j'imagine que ça a affecté la maniabilité exceptionnelle de falcon c'est la raison pour laquelle on a abandonné cette configuration et on a opté finalement pour la configuration traditionnelle du falcon.
c'est vrai qu'avec des plans canard il aura retrouvé sa manoeuvrabilité exceptionnelle, mais personnellement je préfère le design traditionnel.

la quantite du carburant aussi

des remarques

barbaros pacha a écrit:

F-16CJ/DJ Block 50D/52D

Cette variante de la version précédente intègre un système de tir pour la lutte anti-radar et emporte les missiles anti-radiations AGM-88 HARM II et Shrike. L'avion est reconnaissable grâce à la présence du pod Laser Pave Penny (2) et du pod de guidage (1) du HARM AN/ASQ-213 HTS. Ce dernier est monté sur le côté droit de l'entrée d'air ventrale et sert à détecter et classer les menaces.



La difference entre un block 50 et un 52, il n'y a presque pas de difference...

faux pacha!

le pod n´est pas le penny,mais le ALQ-131,emporté tjs avec le HTS(c´est pa sta faute mais du mec qui faitcette bourde dans son site)




le meme avion sous autre angle



je signale que le site ou tu as pris ca a fait pas mal de faute sur le F-16!!

le P.P n´etait utilisé que par A-10 et A-7 corsair,mais l´IDF l´aurait utilisé untemps sous ses Soufa dans la place du HTS(a droite)

voila a quoi ressemble le Pave penny:

Vidéo intéressant!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyD_FfCerDA&eurl=http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=141471

AMRAAM a écrit:

Vidéo intéressant!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyD_FfCerDA&eurl=http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=141471

un exercice de CAS, par les F-16AM hollandais

tir avec cannon et GBU, a signaler que ce sont les troupes qui vont la designation de la cible par laser. et non pas l'avion par pod (LANTIRN ou SNIPER).

16 MLU pour le chili

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Chile to increase F-16 fleet to 44

October 11, 2008 (by Asif Shamim) - Chile is interested in purchasing another batch of refurbished F-16s from The Netherlands, according to Defense officials.


FACh F-16AM #729 from Grupo 8 is spotted strolling past the lens at Santiago AB on April 7th, 2008.


The additional F-16s would replace the ageing F-5 Tigers to be decommissioned next year.

Chile currently has 28 F-16s, of which ten are Block 50s purchased brand new in 2002 at a total cost of $660 million US dollars as part of the free trade agreement signed with the United States.

Three years later the Fuerza Aérea de Chile (FACh) added 18 F16 MLU A/Bs from the Dutch Air Force (RNLAF) costing $180 million US dollars. These replaced ageing Mirage 5 Elkan and Mirage 50/Panthers in the FACh fleet.

This second batch of 16 F-16s MLUs, including spares and support equipment, would cost 170 million US dollars and would be delivered in 2009. When all are delivered Chile's Air Force will have 44 F-16s, one of the strongest and most modern fleets on the South-American continent.

The new planes would be stationed in the Southern part of the country, however this moved has been met with criticism from members of congress who deem this as a possible unfriendly act to there neighbors Argentina.

The fund for military equipment purchases in Chile is financed with a percentage of copper windfall earnings and supported by legislation dating back to the Pinochet years. The bill is to be amended following a political agreement reached in Congress to review legislation inherited from the military regime and considered non democratic.

Military affairs analysts estimate the fund currently has 2.9 billion US dollars and is expected to increase in the coming months.

http://www.f-16.net/news_article3086.html

l'armée de l'air chilienne est un bel exemple à suivre, ça ressemble aux FRA avec peu être 10/20 ans de décalage.

yakousa a écrit:

16 MLU pour le chili

Citation :

Chile to increase F-16 fleet to 44

October 11, 2008 (by Asif Shamim) - Chile is interested in purchasing another batch of refurbished F-16s from The Netherlands, according to Defense officials.


FACh F-16AM #729 from Grupo 8 is spotted strolling past the lens at Santiago AB on April 7th, 2008.


The additional F-16s would replace the ageing F-5 Tigers to be decommissioned next year.

Chile currently has 28 F-16s, of which ten are Block 50s purchased brand new in 2002 at a total cost of $660 million US dollars as part of the free trade agreement signed with the United States.

Three years later the Fuerza Aérea de Chile (FACh) added 18 F16 MLU A/Bs from the Dutch Air Force (RNLAF) costing $180 million US dollars. These replaced ageing Mirage 5 Elkan and Mirage 50/Panthers in the FACh fleet.

This second batch of 16 F-16s MLUs, including spares and support equipment, would cost 170 million US dollars and would be delivered in 2009. When all are delivered Chile's Air Force will have 44 F-16s, one of the strongest and most modern fleets on the South-American continent.

The new planes would be stationed in the Southern part of the country, however this moved has been met with criticism from members of congress who deem this as a possible unfriendly act to there neighbors Argentina.

The fund for military equipment purchases in Chile is financed with a percentage of copper windfall earnings and supported by legislation dating back to the Pinochet years. The bill is to be amended following a political agreement reached in Congress to review legislation inherited from the military regime and considered non democratic.

Military affairs analysts estimate the fund currently has 2.9 billion US dollars and is expected to increase in the coming months.

http://www.f-16.net/news_article3086.html

pourquoi on acquiert pas ces avionns quasiment donné et qui aurait pu faire un beau complement. de plus cela aurait permis de se former massivement en attendant les 1 ere livraisons des avions neufs

Pourquoi ne pas recuperé les F16A (Ex ANG) que SM Feu HassanII a refusé dans les année 90?

Il etaient au nombre entre 24 et 32

recuperer des Block 5
non vaut mieux attendre,ca viendra encore

Non pas block5 lahouma des F5E...
Ce ke je ve dire c'est les rendre block OCU (comme les jordaniens)

MOI les mlu europeen belge et neerlandais je trouvais ces lots interessants

Et pourquoi on ne négocierai pas avec les israeliens pour qu'ils nous refilent une vingtaine de F-16 sufa??? Après tout il existe bien déja des contrats militaire avec le pays.....

faut pas exagerer tout de meme,en plus ils en ont besoin,ils font pas de surplus,et n´ont pas de problemes budgetaires non plus...le maroc prendra soit comme le pakistan des ex-ANG ou comme le chili des MLU(belgique)

Je suis d'accord avc toi...exANG ou OCU belge hollande..Mais pourquoi pas des F16 ex israelien (Pas les sufa mais des A/C)

vous paraissez tous si sûr que le Maroc va acheter des avions d'occaz la prochaine fois je ne suis pas si sûr que ça, je suis plutôt optimiste, si achat il y a, ça sera pas pour demain, et dans dix ans je pense que le maroc aura assez de ressource pour acheter entre 24 et 48 chasseur 4+ qui deviendront plus fiables et moins chers après avoir décroché des contrats à l'export (ex: rafale).

et pour quoi pas une nouvelle commande de 24 block 52 avant que la chaine de la production des F-16 soit arête

faudra d'abord recevoir les 24 en cours et declarer les escadrons opérationnels sur F-16 52+ (pas possible avant 2012 si les livraisons commencent en 2010 comme prévu).

un article très interessant tiré du site web officiel de LM qui parle des options qui peuvent être integrées au F-16!

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Future Options

The following systems could be integrated on the F-16. Many have already been demonstrated.

Air Refueling Probe
This probe provides in-flight refueling from a drogue system. Options include a telescoping probe from a wing fuel tank.


Auxiliary Power Unit
This power unit replaces the jet fuel starter and ground electrical and hydraulics carts.


On-Board Inert Gas Generation System (OBIGGS)
OBIGGS eliminates halon and nitrogen servicing requirements.


Multiaxis Thrust Vectoring
This type of vectoring provides precise control and high nose-pointing rates at low air speeds


In-Flight Route Planning
Using in-flight route planning, pilots are provided with dynamic flight direction for best avoidance of threats.


Perspective Displays
These displays provide the pilot with a visual refresher that improves first-run attack success probability.


Embedded Training
This enhanced peacetime training uses realistic simulated threats and targets.


Auto Ground Collision Avoidance System
An integrated digital terrain system with digital flight control, this system enhances low-altitude safety.


Automatic Maneuvering Attack
This provides integrated fire and flight control for reduced pilot work load.


Microwave Landing System
This system provides curvilinear precision instrument approach capability.


Missile Warning System
This system provides warning of approaching missiles, including passive homing missiles, for proper timing of countermeasures.


All-Weather Standoff Weapons
Weapons used include the AGM-84E Standoff Land-Attack Missile (SLAM) and the AGM-142 Popeye II.


International Advanced Weapons
Advanced weapons include MICA , IRIS-T, Python IV, Active Skyflash air-to-air missile, ALARM antiradiation missile, Apache multimission standoff weapon, autonomous free-flight dispenser system, and AS30L laser-guided missile.

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/products/f16/f16futureopts.html

quel pays est considerer comme l'As du F-16 dans l'europe?