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Yakuza Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 4:20 | |
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Elle est de combien la prortée efficace du SPECTRA?! Je ne pense pas qu'elle dépasse les 100 km. les systemes EW voient generalement tres loin,SPECTRA detecte a plus de 200km+ de memoire le ALR-94 du F-22 sniffe meme a 250NMi,et peut guider les AIM120.. _________________ | |
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Gémini Colonel-Major
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 9:35 | |
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- Raptor a écrit:
Elle est de combien la prortée efficace du SPECTRA?! Je ne pense pas qu'elle dépasse les 100 km. les systemes EW voient generalement tres loin,SPECTRA detecte a plus de 200km+ de memoire le ALR-94 du F-22 sniffe meme a 250NMi,et peut guider les AIM120.. . Juste pour le Spectra au dernier Red Flag,les Americains n'etaient pas content car il etaient trahi par leur emissions a plus de 180 km et pour eux queudal .... | |
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rafi General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 9:50 | |
| Ces données sont secrètes, les gars, ne rêvez pas... | |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 9:52 | |
| Malheuresement meme dans 50 ans ont aura pas la confirmation . |
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rafi General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 9:53 | |
| A quoi bon alors spéculer sur les capacités d'un matériel de ce type? On en reparlera dans 51 ans... | |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 9:55 | |
| Les industrie militaires aime bien arrondir les chiffres . Pourtant juste 5 km c'est consequent. Aufaite rafi ta vu le documentaire sur discovery ou history qui montre avec des images de synthese dans le futur de combat aerien raptor contre rafale ,su-30 et su47?Et dis moi ce que t'en pense? |
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rafi General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 10:06 | |
| Tu auras remarqué que les chiffres sont toujours à la hausse, jamais à la baisse, c'est mauvais pour le business. L'un dit que son radar à un portée de 100 km, l'autre répondra bientôt que le sien, suite à une opportune mise à jour de derrière les fagots, à une portée de 120 km, et ainsi de suite... | |
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rafi General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 10:09 | |
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- Aufaite rafi ta vu le documentaire sur discovery ou history qui montre avec des images de synthese dans le futur de combat aerien raptor contre rafale ,su-30 et su47?Et dis moi ce que t'en pense?
C'est de la pub. | |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 10:12 | |
| "C'est de la pub."
Moi je penser plutot a de la propagande .Ce qui est marant au etats unis c'est qu'il y a des experts americain qui surestime les avions hors americain pour monter le budget de l'armée et d'autre sont chauvin pour l'opinion americain. |
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rafi General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 10:17 | |
| Pub, propagande, désinformation, tout ça c'est du pareil au même, et c'est malheureusement le lot quotidien des forumistes que nous sommes, de quelque pays que cela vienne d'ailleurs. | |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 10:19 | |
| Dis toi que rafi des expert par exemple des experts bresilien , indien .... vont sur des forum pour collecter des information.Récemment c'etait des bresilien. Je doit y aller bonne journée a plus tart . |
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rafi General de Division
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 10:24 | |
| Etre expert au sujet de choses que l'on ne maîtrise pas et dont on ne peut vérifier la véracité d'une manière indépendante me fais toujours bien rigoler. Bonne journée à toi. | |
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Yakuza Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Dim 5 Sep 2010 - 22:39 | |
| c´est a la portée rafi,ses systemes travaillent comme le Rivet Joint et sniffent plus loin que les radars,en plus bcp de sources repetent ce chiffre,je trouve correct - Citation :
- The AN/ALR-94 is a passive receiver system capable of detecting the radar signals in the environment. Composed of more than 30 antennae smoothly blended into the wings and fuselage, it is described by the former head of the F-22 program at Lockheed Martin Tom Burbage as "the most technically complex piece of equipment on the aircraft." With greater range (250+ nmi) than the radar, it enables the F-22 to limit its own radar emission which might otherwise compromise its stealth. As the target approaches, AN/ALR-94 can cue the AN/APG-77 radar to keep track of its motion with a narrow beam, which can be as focused as 2° by 2° in azimuth and elevation.
http://www.aviationexplorer.com/f-22_raptor_facts.htm http://www.vectorsite.net/avf22.html http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/aw010807p1.xml _________________ | |
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MAATAWI Modérateur
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Jeu 4 Nov 2010 - 14:07 | |
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Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor Performs Air Demo For First Time Over Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
FORT WORTH, Texas, November 1st, 2010 — The Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] F-22 Raptor performed its precision aerobatics at the Fort Worth Alliance Air Show Oct. 30-31, marking the first time the aircraft has demonstrated its aerial capabilities in the skies over the Dallas-Fort Worth area. F-22 pilot Maj. David ‘Zeke’ Skalicky of the U.S. Air Force’s F-22 Demonstration Team from Air Combat Command at Langley Air Force Base, Va., flew the Raptor during the performance, entertaining an estimated total crowd of 110,000 that attended the air show over the two days. “Zeke and the F-22 Demonstration Team do an incredible job showcasing the Raptor’s unparalleled aerial maneuverability,” said George Shultz, vice president and general manager of Lockheed Martin’s F-22 Program. “We are thrilled that the people of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex and the employees of Lockheed Martin here in Fort Worth were able to witness this amazing airplane.” The F-22’s appearance proved particularly significant for Lockheed Martin employees working in the F-22 program at the company’s Fort Worth site, where the aircraft’s mid-fuselage is built. “Seeing the Raptor fly at Alliance was a very meaningful opportunity for our program team here,” said Michael Cawood, Fort Worth site lead for the F-22 program. “This was the first time they were able to enjoy the F-22 aerial demonstration in Fort Worth. Our people take pride in helping to build, sustain and enhance the Raptor, and in providing an unmatched capability to the U.S. Air Force.” The F-22 boasts a unique combination of stealth, speed, agility, situational awareness and lethal long-range air-to-air and air-to-ground weaponry to make it the world’s best air dominance fighter and to enable it to deter and defeat current and emerging threats. Source and photo: Lockheed Martin | |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Mer 17 Nov 2010 - 16:43 | |
| un Raptor disparu - Citation :
- DATE:17/11/10
SOURCE:Flightglobal.com USAF launches search for missing F-22 Raptor By Craig Hoyle
The US Air Force launched a search operation last night after one of its Lockheed Martin F-22 fighters failed to return to its base following a training mission.
“An air force F-22 assigned to the 3rd Wing at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson lost contact with air traffic control at 7:40pm Alaska time today while on a routine training mission,” the USAF says in a brief statement.
The service confirms that “a search is underway”, and says: “more information will be released as it becomes available”.
News of the missing Raptor comes just months after a C-17 strategic transport from the USAF’s 3rd Wing crashed at Elmendorf-Richardson AFB, killing all four crew members. _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Mer 17 Nov 2010 - 17:10 | |
| j´y ai pensé aussi,pas si loin que ca,et sous le radar...mais la piste du crash est plus probable a mon avis _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Jeu 18 Nov 2010 - 14:10 | |
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- Découverte de l'épave d'un chasseur Lockheed F22 de l'armée de l'air US
L'épave d'un avion de chasse furtif Lockheed F22, dernier-né de l'armée de l'air américaine, a été découverte en Alaska mercredi alors que l'appareil et son pilote étaient portés manquants à l'issue d'un vol d'entraînement, a annoncé un porte-parole de l'US Air Force.
LOCKHEED MARTIN
http://www.lepoint.fr/bourse/decouverte-de-l-epave-d-un-chasseur-lockheed-f22-de-l-armee-de-l-air-us-18-11-2010-1264144_81.php |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Jeu 18 Nov 2010 - 14:27 | |
| Comme d'hab, les suppositions de Yak s’avèrent toujours exactes _________________ | |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Jeu 18 Nov 2010 - 14:32 | |
| A la fois quand on a 1 heure ou 2 d'autonomie et que l'on a disparu depuis 24h...en dehors du crash, ne reste plus que l'hypothèse de l'enlèvement par des Martiens PGM | |
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Jeu 18 Nov 2010 - 20:38 | |
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F-22 crash site found, search for pilot continues
November 18, 2010 (by Luke Waack) - Search-and-rescue aircraft have discovered the apparent wreckage of an Air Force F-22 Raptor assigned to the 3rd Wing at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson.
USAF F-22A block 20 no. 03-4045 from the 43rd FS departs from Elmendorf AFB on April 15th, 2008 during Red Flag-Alaska 08-2. The aircraft lost contact with air traffic control at 7:40 p.m. (Alaska time) yesterday while on a nighttime training mission.
To continue searching for the missing pilot, a rescue team is being dispatched to the area, approximately 100 miles north of Anchorage, by the Alaska Air National Guard Rescue Coordination Center, the 3rd Wing and Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson.
Air Force Col. Jack McMullen, 3rd Wing commander, held a press conference at 1 p.m. to make a statement and answer questions from the media.
"Last night a 'two-ship' of F-22s, Rocky One and Rocky Three, were finished with training ... about 100 miles north of here," Colonel McMullen said.
Everything was normal until about 7:40 p.m., the colonel said, when Rocky Three fell off the radar scope and the pilot lost communications.
"The other pilot (Rocky One) went to a tanker, got gas and then continued to look for the mishap pilot," he continued. "He could not find him. At that time, the Alaska Air National Guard scrambled a C-130 and rescue helicopters. They searched the entire night."
About 10:15 a.m., an Alaska Air National Guard helicopter found a site that fits the data and the description of where we thought the mishap probably occurred, Colonel McMullen said.
"They found the crash site. They were unable to land at the crash site and take a closer look. We scrambled another helicopter that should be in the area in the next few moments." he said.
Colonel McMullen thanked the Alaskan community and Alaska Air National Guard for their support at such a difficult time.
The name of the pilot is being withheld until the pilot's status is determined.
More information will be released as it becomes available.
Courtesy of Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson Public Affairs Office
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Jeu 20 Jan 2011 - 12:15 | |
| J’ai toujours cru qu’il va retourner un jour espérons que oui - Citation :
- Bring Back The F-22
Only two years after Secretary of Defense Robert Gates’ decision to end production of the F-22 Raptor at 187 aircraft, the program may be poised to rise like a phoenix from the ashes. When Gates made his decision, it was on the assumption that other countries -- notably Russia and China -- would not develop their own fifth-generation fighters for at least another decade or more. Yet, even as the Secretary met with his counterparts from the Chinese military, that institution announced the first test flight of the J-20, their entrant into the fifth-generation fighter competition. In addition, Russia has announced a cooperative program with India to build a similar aircraft, currently known as the T-50. Today, Secretary Gates’ threat projections look woefully wrong.
The emergence of the J-20 is but one example of China’s broad and deep investments in advanced military capabilities. Admiral Willard, Commander of U.S. Pacific Command, recently informed the world that China’s anti-ship ballistic missile system had reached its initial operating capability. This is a system with no parallel in the world; the U.S. has nothing like it. In addition, the defense department’s annual report on China’s military activities paints a darkening picture of increasing investments in nuclear and diesel-electric submarines, mine warfare, advanced surface-to-air missile systems, ballistic missiles, space surveillance and cyber warfare.
In his January 6 announcements of the results of the Department of Defense’s efficiency drive, the Secretary spoke about shifting much of the money saved into new programs clearly intended to counter the growing Chinese threat. He made particular mention of the funding of development of a new strategic bomber, one necessitated by the growing “anti-access” threat. This is a code word for China. He also called for additional deployments of missile defense interceptors both abroad and in the continental United States. This clearly reflects concerns about the ballistic missile programs in China, North Korea and Iran.
In view of the new appreciation of the threat it is time to bring back the F-22. Recent war games by Western think tanks have concluded that the projected U.S. tactical fighter force would be overwhelmed by the sheer number of less capable third and fourth-generation Chinese fighters. Add in the J-20 and the outlook for the U.S. military becomes decidedly bleak. Even when the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is deployed this will not provide the U.S. with enough offensive capability given the limited number of F-22s that will be combat capable.
The F-22 has capabilities unlike any other fighter in the world. Its stealthiness allows the F-22 to engage hostile aircraft before it is even detected. The F-22’s high operational ceiling and speed creates a kinematic advantage that allows for engagements at the maximum range for its AMRAAM missiles. The combination of supercruise and stealth allows the F-22 to evade ground defenses and to escape air-to-air threats.
Ultimately, war has always been a numbers game. At some point, technologically inferior but numerically superior opponents will simply overwhelm the side with the better weapons. In conflicts between technologically equal adversaries numbers will determine the winner. While the F-22 is likely to be a better airplane than the J-20, 187 are not going to be enough to deal with a Chinese Air Force that is numerically superior and closing the technology gap with the U.S. Air Force. Before it is too late, the Obama Administration needs to resurrect the F-22 program and buy a couple hundred more.
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Ven 21 Jan 2011 - 2:13 | |
| - MAATAWI a écrit:
Lors des exercices ATLC 2009 organisés annuellement par les Émirats arabes unis, un pilote de l'armée de l'air française utilisant un Mirage 2000-9 prêté par les Émiriens a virtuellement détruit au canon un F-22 Raptor. Dans ces exercices, le Raptor est aussi confronté au Rafale six fois dans des combats air-air à vue et courte distance. Le chasseur français n'a été dans le collimateur du F-22 qu'une fois, les autres combats se terminant à égalité. Les pilotes français regrettant que l'USAF refuse l'emploi simulé des missiles MICA[34], [35]. Cependant, selon des déclarations et photos de l'armée de air, l'OSF-TV du Rafale a bien ciblé un F-22 lors de ces combats.
defpro[/quote] source wiki je sais pas a quelle point ces infos sont exacte ou si ils sont déjà posté mais sa me semble ridicule franchement !! | |
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Yakuza Administrateur
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| Sujet: Re: F-22 Raptor Ven 21 Jan 2011 - 4:33 | |
| qu´est ce qui est ridicule exactement?le Raptor ciblé? c´est vrai et documenté _________________ | |
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