Armée Israélienne (IDF)

Yakuza a écrit:

article de 98,l´origine du Soufa,bizarre qu´Israel n´a pas voulu l´AESA comme l´UAE.
elle peut pas aussi bidoullier les avions comme elle veut..

les Israélien comptait y intégrer leur propre radar ce qui a était refusé par les states

https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img15/3674/ruuex4.jpg

Edit rptr: déplacé dans le bon topic.

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DATE:12/05/09
SOURCE:Flight International

Israel to launch F-16 fighter upgrade

The Israeli air force will soon begin a series upgrade to its Lockheed Martin F-16C/D fighters, with the "Barak 2020" programme aimed at equipping the legacy aircraft with almost the same level of avionics equipment as used by its latest F-16Is. The aim of the project is to enable the F-16C/D fleet to serve until at least 2020.

Israel's modernisation effort comes after a long test period, during which an upgraded avionics suite has been test flown using one F-16D operated to the limit of its flight envelope. The air force says the upgrade will boost interoperability with its fleet of 101 F-16Is, and facilitate the integration of new weapon systems with its operational fleet of approximately 124 C/D-model aircraft.

102 F-16I + 124 upgradés = 226 au standard F-16I
+ 25 F-35A
+ F-15I
+F-15SE
...

no comment

Raptor a écrit:

102 F-16I + 124 upgradés = 226 au standard F-16I
+ 25 F-35A
+ F-15I
+F-15SE
...

no comment

Ils sont au maximum de leur capacité...

je crois qu´ils decideront entre le SE et le JSF

si c'est le cas je pense que le choix est déjà fait, preuve à l'appui: la modernisation des F-16 C/D au standard F-16I

Appreciez le Sufa




Israel a loué des Mig-29 d´un pays non-identifié pour s´entrainer au Dogfight contre les Sufa

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May 13, 2009 20:56 | Updated May 14, 2009 9:32
IAF practicing MIG-29/F-16 dogfights
By JPOST.COM STAFF

srael Air Force test pilots are flying MIG 29 jets and conducting dogfights against the IAF's F-16 fighters, Channel 2 revealed Wednesday evening.

The MIG 29, developed by the soviets in the 1970s, is one of the best fighter jets used by eastern and Arab countries, as well as by Syria and Iran. It was developed to counter American-made jets such the F-16 or F/A-18.

The jets were loaned to Israel by an unnamed foreign country. The experiment is meant to prepare IAF pilots for missions where they might have to fight a foreign air-force.

"We tested them - we trained the IAF pilots against them," an unnamed IAF official said.


The IAF employs ten test pilots. The training of each costs about a million dollars, but the experience gleaned from the test pilots, the unnamed official said, "is priceless."

"You fly in places and in certain conditions in a way never attempted before," an unidentified test pilot said. "Once, a piece of the jet's body broke during an experiment but the crew managed to land it safely."


A test jet is just like a regular one, except for special sensors which cover literally every aspect of its mechanical and electronic systems and can be monitored from the ground for assessment.

An additional experiment conducted recently by the air force involved loading an F-16 with weapons to its utmost capacity, or "flight in a heavy formation," as the test pilot labeled it. The experiment was meant to measure the pilot's safety and the fighter's capability when it was carrying the maximum amount of armaments.

A jet so armed might be used in a long-distance sortie. The pilots interviewed would not name which foreign countries might be the targets of such sorties, but it was clear the main target of such an ambitious mission would be Iran's nuclear installations.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1242212366589&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

pour voir la video de l´entrainement

http://www.mako.co.il/news-channel2/Channel-2-Newscast/Article-6a29c786c0b3121004.htm

c'est bien un CIWS à droite?! je me demande si ces systèmes sont efficaces, sur les fiches techniques ils sont décrit comme étant très redoutables et très efficaces contre les menaces ground/ground! mais là...

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L'essai nucléaire de la Corée du Nord a donné une nouvelle impulsion à la rhétorique belliqueuse des dirigeants israéliens contre l'Iran. Téhéran a bénéficié de l'aide technologique de Pyongyang pour le développement de ses missiles balistiques. Israël soupçonne aussi une coopération nucléaire.Le raisonnement est simple : « Les tentatives américaines de dialoguer avec l'Iran ont très peu de chances d'aboutir », explique le ministre de la Défense, Ehoud Barak. Donc, il ne faut pas exclure l'option militaire si l'on veut empêcher la République islamique d'avoir la bombe atomique.Entraînement intensif. L'armée de l'air multiplie les exercices lointains, « jusqu'à Gibraltar », précise la presse britannique, avec le soutien logistique d'avions ravitailleurs. Sur le plan défensif, les États-Unis viennent d'octroyer 800 millions de dollars pour la modernisation accélérée du missile antimissile israélien Arrow. Préparation des esprits. À partir de dimanche, jusqu'au 4 juin, se déroulera l'un des plus grands exercices de défense passive depuis la création d'Israël. Mardi, les sirènes mugiront de la frontière israélo-libanaise jusqu'à Eilat (mer Rouge). Une simulation d'attaque au missile contre la Kyria, centre nerveux de l'armée et du ministère de la Défense à entraînera son évacuation totale, du jamais vu. L'ensemble de la population va recevoir de nouveaux masques à gaz.Pas étonnant, dans ces conditions, que beaucoup d'Israéliens envisagent le pire., D'après un récent sondage, un habitant sur quatre se dit prêt à s'expatrier si l'Iran parvient à fabriquer la bombe.

http://www.ouest-france.fr/actu/actuDet_-Israel-multiplie-les-exercices-militaires-_3637-951472_actu.Htm

les raisons derrière le refus israelien du F-35:

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U.S. REFUSES TO LET ISRAEL REPAIR JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER COMPUTER SYSTEMS

7 May 2009

A refusal by the United States to allow Israel to repair computer systems in the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) is at the heart of disagreements between the Defense Ministry and the Pentagon that have been holding up an official Israeli order for the fifth-generation fighter jet.

The JSF, also known as the F-35, is a stealth fighter jet under development by Lockheed Martin. Last year, Israel received approval from the Pentagon to purchase up to 75 aircraft in a deal that could reach close to $20 billion.

Defense officials told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday that talks between the Israeli defense delegation in Washington and the Pentagon have picked up speed in recent weeks but have yet to result in agreement due to the US’s refusal to grant Israel access to the plane’s internal computer mainframe.

The Americans are concerned that by allowing Israel to independently repair the computers, the Israel Air Force will get its hands on the classified technology that was used to make the plane.

Israel, on the other hand, has argued that due to its operational requirements it needs to have the ability to repair damaged or broken computer systems in “real time” and cannot wait for a computer system to be sent to the US for repairs in the middle of a war.

The Americans have told Israel it will receive a number of spare computer systems that it could install in place of a damaged system but would still have to send the damaged system to the US for repairs.

“This is the core of the disagreements right now,” explained one senior defense official. “We have major operational constraints and need to have the ability to repair the systems on our own.”

Due to the disagreements regarding the computer, as well as American opposition to the integration of Israeli systems into the plane and its overall soaring cost - now reaching $100 million - the Defense Ministry has recently asked Boeing for details on the new and advanced model of the F-15 Eagle, which is claimed to have enhanced stealth capabilities.

There is also an option to upgrade existing F-15s to the Silent Eagle model at a much lower cost.

In March, Boeing unveiled the F-15 Silent Eagle (F-15SE), a new configuration of the F-15 which has undergone improvements and modifications that, according to media reports, give the plane a stealth capability that is effective in evading radars on enemy aircraft but not against ground-based radar systems.

Improvements in stealth include coatings and treatments to the aircraft, as well as a new design for the conformal fuel tanks that includes the possibility of carrying weapons inside them instead of fuel.

Israel operates several squadrons of F-15s, including one of 25 F-15Is, the aircraft with the longest-range in the IAF.

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=25721

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Exercice de défense civile géant en Israël

Israël a commencé dimanche le plus important exercice de défense civile de son histoire afin de préparer la population à une éventuelle guerre, dans le contexte actuel de fortes tensions avec l'Iran.

La manoeuvre, baptisée "Turning Point III", durera cinq jours. Elle comportera notamment des simulations de tirs de roquettes et missiles sur des villes israéliennes ainsi que des exercices d'entraînement des soldats, des équipes de secours et des civils, y compris pour une éventuelle attaque non conventionnelle. Le cabinet de sécurité, de son côté, s'entraînera aux réunions d'urgence.

Les sirènes d'alerte aux attaques aériennes doivent ainsi sonner mardi dans tout le pays, et, pour la première fois, l'ensemble de la population devra s'entraîner à se réfugier dans les abris.

Cet exercice géant intervient dans une période de fortes tensions entre l'Etat hébreu et l'Iran, mais le ministre israélien de la Défense Ehoud Barak a affirmé dimanche qu'il n'avait "pas été créé en réponse aux événements des derniers mois et semaines" mais après la guerre de 2006 au Liban.

Israël n'a cependant pas exclu une intervention militaire contre l'Iran, qui développe des missiles à longue portée et un programme nucléaire soupçonné de comporter un volet militaire clandestin. Les autorités se sont efforcées dimanche de rassurer les voisins arabes, et notamment la Syrie et le Liban, qui craignent que l'exercice ne serve de couverture à une attaque militaire.

Il s'agit uniquement d'un exercice "de routine", a insisté M. Barak. "Nous avons le devoir de défendre Israël, ses villes et installations face à la possibilité d'attaques de missiles, roquettes et autres armes", a-t-il dit. "Je crois que le fait qu'Israël se prépare d'exercice en exercice et soit capable de mieux protéger ses citoyens abaisse les chances que nous devions utiliser de tels outils", a-t-il encore affirmé.

Les exercices de type "Turning Point" ont été mis en place à la suite de la guerre contre le Hezbollah libanais à l'été 2006, lors de laquelle près de 4.000 roquettes Katioucha avaient atteint le sol israélien, selon la Défense. L'expérience avait alors prouvé que la défense civile, les abris contre les bombes et les alertes à l'attaque aérienne n'étaient pas suffisamment préparés.

Des exercices similaires ont été conduits en 2007 et 2008, mais l'armée affirme que celui entamé dimanche est "le plus important et le plus complet à ce jour". Pendant l'exercice de l'an dernier, les sirènes étaient restées désespérément muettes dans certains quartiers de Tel Aviv et Jérusalem. Un centre de commandement de la défense civile doit être inauguré cette année.

"Nos ennemis nous ont montré il y a longtemps déjà qu'ils considéraient le front intérieur comme notre talon d'Achille", a expliqué à la radio le vice-ministre à la Défense Matan Vilnaï. "Cet exercice prouve que ce n'est pas le cas."

AP

je vous présentes, Le ACM-R5 un nouveau serpent robot, conçu pour s'infiltrer dans les tunnels de Ghaza

http://www.mako.co.il/news-military/security/Article-4ff0a6c8e01c121004.htm&sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=1703146783

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=2333

Qu'est ce qu'ils vont pas chercher ses Israéliens
S'ils envoyent ce boa métallique dans les tunnels de Gaza, ils ne vont pas tarder à le voir présenté par la télé iranienne

FAMAS a écrit:

je vous présentes, Le ACM-R5 un nouveau serpent robot, conçu pour s'infiltrer dans les tunnels de Ghaza

http://www.mako.co.il/news-military/security/Article-4ff0a6c8e01c121004.htm&sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=1703146783

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=2333

Ca ressemble à un serpent mécanique tueur que j'ai vu dans un film je ne me rappelle plus de son nom

C'est le robo serpent tueur du dernier film Terminator salvation!!

bonsoir ,
voila une vidéo de ce robot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R14Y8h2xNRI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etdg%2Ech%2Factu%2Fmonde%2Fisrael%2Drobot%2Dserpent%2Despion&feature=player_embedded

C'est la même vidéo que celle postée par Famas hier
http://www.mako.co.il/news-military/security/Article-4ff0a6c8e01c121004.htm&sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=1703146783

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Report: Israel nearer to F-35 purchase deal with U.S.

JERUSALEM, June 24 (Xinhua) -- Israel is getting nearer to a deal with the United States for the purchase of the F-35 fighter jets, as the two sides have recently reached understandings on a number of Israel's demands, local media reported on Wednesday.

"There is understanding today on the main basic issues," a top Israeli officer was quoted by local daily The Jerusalem Post as saying.
The progress followed a series of recent visits by top Israel Air Force (IAF) officials to Washington. On the sidelines of the Paris Air Show, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak also held meetings with top officials from Lockheed Martin, the manufacturer of the advanced warplane.
The IAF demands focused on three issues: integration of Israeli electronic warfare systems into the plane, integration of Israeli communication systems, and ability to independently maintain the plane in the event of a technical or structural problem, according to the report.
In order to ease Pentagon's concern that installation of Israeli systems might expose top-secret technology, the Israeli side has reportedly presented a proposal to bypass the computer mainframe of the fighter jet when installing the systems.
Meanwhile, Israel argued that due to operational requirements, it needs to have the ability to repair damaged or broken computer systems in "real time" and cannot wait for them to be sent to Europe for repairs in the middle of a war. To this demand, the Americans have given their consent, top officials were quoted as saying.
Once a complete understanding is reached, the IAF plans to issue an official letter of request for the stealth warplane, also known as the Joint Strike Fighter in the coming weeks, which would be followed by a contract next year, according to the report.
The Jewish state intended to acquire 25 aircraft in the first step, which would comprise Israel's first F-35 squadron, said the report, adding that should the letter of request be issued this year, delivery of the planes would begin in 2014.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-06/24/content_11594640.htm

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Russia buys 12 spy drones from Israel

MOSCOW, June 22 (RIA Novosti) - Russia has bought 12 unmanned aerial vehicles from Israel in a recent deal worth $53 million, a Russian government official said on Monday.

"The contract envisions the purchase of 12 UAV, including two heavy vehicles and 10 small vehicles. The delivery has not yet been made because the contract was signed only recently," Vyacheslav Dzirkaln, deputy head of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, said in an exclusive interview with RIA Novosti. Dzirkaln said the main goal of the purchase was to study the Israeli achievements in the development of spy drones in order to build reliable UAVs domestically.

"We must take their know-how and put it to practical use [in developing our own craft]," the official said. The Russian military stressed the need to provide its Armed Forceswith advanced means of battlefield reconnaissance in the wake of a brief military conflict with Georgia last August, when the effectiveness of Russian military operations was severely hampered by the lack of reliable intelligence.

The Russian Air Force has launched a number of UAV development programs for various purposes. Air Force Commander, Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said last year that Russia would deploy advanced unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) with a flight range of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles) and a flight duration capability of up to 12 hours by 2011. However, Russian defense companies, including the Irkut aircraft maker and the Vega Radio Engineering Corp., have failed so far to provide the military with effective spy drones.

According to various estimates, the Russian military needs up to 100 UAVs and at least 10 guidance systems to ensure effective battlefield reconnaissance in case of any military conflict.

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20090622/155314762.html

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June 24, 2009 (by Lieven Dewitte) - An Israeli F-16 downed a small Chinese Unmanned Aerial Vehicle in a training exercise on Tuesday.

The air force began training for such a need after Hizbullah successfully sent a UAV into Israel during the Second Lebanon War.

The pilot managed to locate the small target and down it using 140 rounds of his M61A1 20mm Vulcan cannon.

The air force has also introduced new sensors that have improved its ability to detect UAVs trying to enter Israeli airspace.

www.f-16.net