Le Rafale

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Ça a été une sacré aventure ce projet de vente de Rafale au Maroc, pleine de rebondissements, d'entourloupes, de fausses infos, de vrais (et de faux) démentis, de vendeurs qui n'en étaient pas, de négociateurs qui se tiraient dans les pattes, etc, bref, du grand art.

@gemini

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Mille merci.

it's a pleasure

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La photo du Rafale avec le Blériot (il me semble...) est sublime,que de chemin parcouru depuis

Gémini a écrit:

La photo du Rafale avec le Blériot (il me semble...) est sublime,que de chemin parcouru depuis

confirmation, il s'agit bien d'un bleriot gemini

allons soyons plus ambitieux que ça , il s'agit quand meme de la meme technologie de base , à savoir la propulsion grace à l'énergie et un décollage en diagonale .

j'ai oublié fossile

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Indo-French Rafale deal
Posted on July 30, 2011
Just two days after the dramatic elimination of M-MRCA from contract deal by the Indian Technical Evaluation Committee, Mr Subramaniam Swamy, national president of Janata Party, wrote a letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, and alleged that the pre-determined decision to favour the French aircraft Rafale over M-MRCA was the outcome of several conversations between the wife of French President Ms Caria Bruni and the Chairperson of the National Advisory Council Ms Sonia Gandhi, and surprisingly also with two foreign nationals who are the sisters of Sonia Gandhi. He alleged that he had credible proofs and some credible information on the conversation between Ms Caria Bruni and Sonia Gandhi’s sisters, there had been an agreement of the French to pay a hefty bribe for favouring the purchase of French aircraft Rafale. He disclosed that his reliable friends abroad, some of them his former French national students informed him that members of Sonia Gandhi’s family were in St Tropez in southern France. In the company of notorious Qauattrocchis and other family members discussing defence deals and the sequencing/parceling of huge bribes likely to be paid. More so he also wrote that IAF favours the Rafale because there is also a high level back channel Italian connection. He further reveals these connections as: Ms Sonia Gandhi is an Italian born, with much of her relatives still living in Italy, especially her two sisters who were in conversation with the wife of French president Ms Carla Bruni and Ms Sonia Gandhi. (b) Subramanian Swamy further called Sonia as “Antonia” as her real Italian name, also stated in her birth certificate. He requested PM to comprehend the risk and understand first who the Sonia is and what of kind of danger she, her family and her friends in Italy holds for Indian security. (c) He further revealed that Sonia is the name given to her subsequently by her father, Stefano Mano (now deceased) who had been prisoner of war in Russia during World War-II. (d) Sonia was not born or Bassino as she claimed her bio data submitted to Indian parliament. (e) After her marriage to Rajiv Gandhi meant deep access for the Soviet KGB into the household of Indian prime minister. After her marriage to Rajiv the Soviet connections with Sonia were fortified and matured by generous financial help through such above mentioned commission and kickbacks on every Indo-Russia trade deal and defence purchases. According to him Rajib had about $2bn in Swiss bank accounts, which Sonia inherited after his assassination.All that glitters is not gold, underhand deals show the face under the skin.

Marya Mufti

Lahore
http://www.thefrontierpost.com/?p=38070

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Rafale : une offre aux Emirats

Dassault Aviation* doit remettre une offre commerciale définitive aux Emirats arabes unis d'ici à la mi-septembre pour la vente d'une soixantaine d'avions de combat Rafale, rapporte jeudi le quotidien Les Echos.

Fort notamment de l'expérience libyenne, qui a permis au Rafale de montrer sa polyvalence, Abou Dhabi aurait sensiblement revu à la baisse ses demandes d'évolutions technologiques, l'émirat n'exigeant plus l'augmentation de la poussée du moteur et des améliorations en matière de guerre électronique, écrit le journal.

"Ils ont fait le tri parmi toutes les options. C'est le signe d'un certain pragmatisme", a déclaré aux Echos un proche du dossier.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2011/09/01/97002-20110901FILWWW00419-rafale-une-offre-aux-emirats.php

Le Normandie Niemen renait de la plus belle des maniéres...........
http://www.air-cosmos.com/defense/201109010164765/premier-rafale-aux-couleurs-du-normandie-niemen.html

desolé mais je peux pas m´imaginer la´Niemen sans mirage
il doit dabord aller faire bapteme en russie

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Dans un entretien publié samedi dans Le Monde, il se dit d'autre part "certain" qu'un premier contrat de vente d'avions Rafale (Dassault Aviation ) sera conclu.
"Je suis certain qu'un contrat sera signé", dit-il, "il y aura un effet déclencheur et il sera suivi par d'autres".

http://www.lesechos.fr/investisseurs/actualites-boursieres/reuters_00375821-france-le-n-1-de-la-dga-prone-des-rapprochements-dans-la-defense-214160.php

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French point out advantages of Rafale fighters


The Rafale fighters stand out for having been conceived as omnirole, that is, they are capable to perform all tasks of a fight aircraft. This is the main advantage of the French aircraft in relation to other competitors in the dispute for the contract to modernize the Brazilian Air Force, as Jean-Marc Merialdo, director of Dassault International of Brazil, said during the last of the three public hearings promoted on the theme by the Committee on External Relations and National Defense.

In an answer to a question presented by senator Randolfe Rodrigues (PSOL-AP), on the advantages of the French aircraft over the competitors, Merialdo highlighted that, on the one hand, Rafale is a recent product, used since 2004 by the French Navy and since 2006 by the French Air Force. On the other hand, he said, the fighters F18 Super Hornett offered by Boeing would be a development of an already existent aircraft and would not have the same future growth potential as the Rafale.

Without directly mentioning the Swedish fighter Grippen, third competitor in the modernization of the Brazilian Air Force fleet, the director of Dassault recalled that the main Air Forces in the world have twin-engine as first line aircrafts – and not single-engine ones, like the aircraft offered to Brazil by Saab.

According to Merialdo, Rafale has been used in combats in Afghanistan and, more recently, in Libya. He remarked that Rafale was projected to be used by the Navy as much as by the Air Force, what will be important at the moment that the Brazilian Navy decides to reequip São Paulo aircraft carriers.

Technology transfer

The director still classified as “incomparable” the French proposal of technology transfer to Brazil, if the country chooses to purchase the Rafale.

“Due to our strategic partnership, technology transfer will be done without any restriction. Brazilian industry has already developed many capacities and now needs some key technologies of a supersonic fighter, which will allow that industry to give a step forward towards technology,” he said.

The extension of technology transfer was the issue that most called the attention of the senators during the three hearings dedicated to listen to the representatives of Saab, Boeing and Dassault, according to the chairman of the committee, senator Fernando Collor (PTB-AL).

“This is the crucial point,” said Collor.

http://www.senado.gov.br/noticias/agencia/internacional/en/not_1387.aspx

J'éspère,j'éspère....................

merci farewell
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